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Reply #30 posted 11/20/07 7:17am

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Anxiety said:

the duets on 'rave' might have been interesting if he would have mixed his partners to a level where we could hear them! lol


So true. Unless you read the booklet, you wouldn't know they were on there! Its like Kate Bush on My Computer....she may have well not been on there.

That said, I like Rave Un2. I felt Rave In2 was week. I was good to see winding road slashed and beautiful strange added, but the remixes were weak!
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Reply #31 posted 11/20/07 7:30am

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Anxiety said:

the duets on 'rave' might have been interesting if he would have mixed his partners to a level where we could hear them! lol


So true. Unless you read the booklet, you wouldn't know they were on there! Its like Kate Bush on My Computer....she may have well not been on there.

That said, I like Rave Un2. I felt Rave In2 was week. I was good to see winding road slashed and beautiful strange added, but the remixes were weak!


i think man'o'war was an improvement, but with many of the remixes i will agree with you...they were messed with to a point where they were cheesy enough for me to enjoy them like i enjoy the 'gangsta glam' video. so bad it's almost good.
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Reply #32 posted 11/20/07 7:31am

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rlittler81 said:

I was disappointed after the first listen, nothing really stood out that much. Gone back to it a few times but to me it's just like D&P: a bid a commercial success. Production is a bit plastic, overall too contrived for my liking. Rave In2 only slightly better imo.


B4 the week I spent with the album (and ultimately the reason why I spent a week with it)... this was a month or two before. I was in the funkiest mood with prince's music... just one of those really weird moments along this journey.

It was the first album that made me think that prince was weird or bizarre... and I try to avoid calling him such because that's what those who don't know his music and only know how the media portrays him call him. It was too long for me and I think that 5 minute long commerical and hidden track pushed me over the edge.

So I returned to the album and liked it a whole lot better. Only 5 days into the week did I start to think I was getting sick of it. I usually don't mull over my albums for that long, especially not taking one completely on its own.

A little commerial yes... but what's wrong with a little commericialism every now and then? Because he's being commercial doesn't mean that Prince isn't Prince, right? Purple Rain was made out to be a commerical album and people seem to love that one.

The tracks that kinda keep the album down for me are Hot w/U, So far so pleased, Silly Game, Baby Knows (don't like country or care for Sheryl Crow much disbelief ) and occasionally the title track or Undisputed. The tracks are good, but sometimes when they drag on (Hot w/U especially), I get bored after a while.
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Reply #33 posted 11/20/07 11:11am

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I for one think this is a masterpeice. I love every track, although, I feel it was released at the wrong time. If it had been released right before or right after The Gold Experience, it would have been well recieved. So Far, So Pleased is awesome, it sounds like it's straight from the late 80's early 90's. Just bad marketing, and bad timing. Awesome album. That's my opinion.


There are calssics on Rave Such as Man O War, Silly Games & I don't trust you anymore but thats it.
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when Purple Rain was Hot. Actually, he doesn't care if it happens again or not.
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Reply #34 posted 11/20/07 11:22am

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Imago said:

I like it.


I don't LOVE it.

I always thought that Rave was D&P, but not as tacky. It has the overall poppy tone to it, though a bit more melancholy. Not a "Great" album by any means, but I don't understand all the hatred towards it.

Rave In2 offered some interesting remixes, but I didn't think it much of an improvement. I even liked a few songs on Rave Un2 better. shrug

Either way, I just don't get all the hatred folks harbor towards that album-- New Power Soul was more annoying to me.


IMO, I think In2 is almost a different album. I can't stand much of Un2, but In2 I love most of it. I thought that the remixes were much better than the originals. Though I still don't like Baby Knows, So Far So Pleased and Everyday is a Winding road. I sort of wish he had kept strange but true and dropped one of the aformentioned songs. I think the only remix that doesn't work for me is the title track...about 4-5 into it, it gets interesting.

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Reply #35 posted 11/20/07 11:33am

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Whitnail said:

ElCapitan said:



In2 and un2



ah ok, I unfortunately only have one of them "Un2", but I cant imagine the other being much better, not that i would still like to hear it wink


The other one is much better. What's interesting is that some of the "remixes" are ever so slightly remixed but the hang better. I also think the remixes of Hot w/U and Undisputed vastly improve Rave by making what was mediocre much better thus creating a greater balance of good songs vs dreck.

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Reply #36 posted 11/20/07 11:46am

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Rave in2 was milestones better.
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Reply #37 posted 11/20/07 3:23pm

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SPYZFAN1 said:

I agree w/ Butterscotch (I like your avatar).."Rave" was a weak attempt to get back in the public eye..I didn't buy the duet with Eve. Eve??..She wouldn't take any mess from P in real life if they hooked up.

I think P missed the mark with making a video with Gwen. No Doubt was huge at that time and "So Far" probably would have been a huge hit."Strange" and "Prettyman" reminded me of the old P. "Tangerine" with Ani was cool too.

Like "Planet Earth", I listened to "Rave" once or twice and I stored it away on the shelf.



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Reply #38 posted 11/20/07 3:42pm

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Yes, not the greatest of Album's between IN2 and UN2, but they've both got Prettyman, loved the track on the albums, truly adored seeing it performed live

Maceo, can you blow cool

Also, listen to the words of "I Love U, but I Don't trusy you", the man was feeling some pain when he wrote that

Beautiful Strange, that was avergae to me, like the lame a**e show with scary spice doing an interview, but the music was cool.
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Reply #39 posted 11/20/07 6:34pm

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Reply #40 posted 11/20/07 6:35pm

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I ab-sa-fucking-lutely hate the org bug.

superspaceboy said:

Imago said:

I like it.


I don't LOVE it.

I always thought that Rave was D&P, but not as tacky. It has the overall poppy tone to it, though a bit more melancholy. Not a "Great" album by any means, but I don't understand all the hatred towards it.

Rave In2 offered some interesting remixes, but I didn't think it much of an improvement. I even liked a few songs on Rave Un2 better. shrug

Either way, I just don't get all the hatred folks harbor towards that album-- New Power Soul was more annoying to me.


IMO, I think In2 is almost a different album. I can't stand much of Un2, but In2 I love most of it. I thought that the remixes were much better than the originals. Though I still don't like Baby Knows, So Far So Pleased and Everyday is a Winding road. I sort of wish he had kept strange but true and dropped one of the aformentioned songs. I think the only remix that doesn't work for me is the title track...about 4-5 into it, it gets interesting.



Its not the mix or the production of Rave un2 or In2 that I thought was stale. It's the spirit. The remix album didn't do anything to livin' it up.


I really really liked TGRES, but thought it would have benefitted from being placed in a more interesting album.

Either way, I don't hate either version of the album. It actually ain't half bad. I just don't get folks who passionately love it or those who absolutely hate it.
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Reply #41 posted 11/20/07 6:38pm

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I love some of the songs-- I Love U But I Don't Trust U Anymore, especially and makes me cry when I hear it; that said, not crazy about the whole album, and hate the title track.
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Reply #42 posted 11/20/07 6:40pm

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Anxiety said:

the duets on 'rave' might have been interesting if he would have mixed his partners to a level where we could hear them! lol


That album was the whole reason why I became a Prince if it was for this album I would have never known this guy even exist.
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Reply #43 posted 11/21/07 2:43am

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I like Rave razz
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Reply #44 posted 11/21/07 2:56am

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Love it or hate it...it's a Prince Album...and you'll always get two sides...or like me...liking a few songs...but not overly keen on it (although I was hooked on...Undisputed)

P.s. Loving the CHelsea ROdgers (it's got a feel-good beat to it), FUNK and SPlash songs at the mo!
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Reply #45 posted 11/21/07 7:56am

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i love it
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Reply #46 posted 11/21/07 9:24am

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I have to say, although the album isn't really a 'classic' to me, the Rave In2 booklet is gorgeous!!! Loads better than that fold out thingy in Rave Un2!
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Reply #47 posted 11/21/07 9:30am

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rlittler81 said:

I have to say, although the album isn't really a 'classic' to me, the Rave In2 booklet is gorgeous!!! Loads better than that fold out thingy in Rave Un2!



I especially love the greatest romance that ever been sold.
the orginal and the two remixes with Q-tip and EVE
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Reply #48 posted 11/21/07 10:30am

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sexxydancer said:

I like Rave Un2,but I LOVE Rave In2!

Yes I agree "In2" is much better...except the title track
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Reply #49 posted 11/21/07 1:56pm

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Are you people mad?? this is an ace album i love it!! only just bought it and i cantn stop lissoing to it, if you ask me there are no prince albums that arnt master pices there all great!!! i especially love the silent song(joking!!)
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Reply #50 posted 11/21/07 3:38pm

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rlittler81 said:

I have to say, although the album isn't really a 'classic' to me, the Rave In2 booklet is gorgeous!!! Loads better than that fold out thingy in Rave Un2!


in2 came with a booklet? I thought it was 1 of those downloadable albums
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Reply #51 posted 11/21/07 5:56pm

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I like it alot.
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Reply #52 posted 11/21/07 11:25pm

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I liked Rave when it came out. I go back to it every few years.
I made my own version of it blending my favs of the original rave and the NPG Version of the CD, it came to 16 tracks.
Love the extended version of Tangerine, Sun, Moon, & Stars.
Some of the duets did not work very well, maybe they should have been solos.
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