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Printableroodboi said: DreamyPopRoyalty said: Possibly... it's my belief that most people in my college don't know he's still doing stuff (think all he did was "Purple Rain" and hadn't done anything since). The music they're into is rap/hip-hop, garbage or alternative music. He's in neither of those categories, so they don't take notice or seem to appreciate him as one of the all-time greats. I'm all the way back here, behind the majority of the fanbase. But I've taken the time to collect and digest music from many of the years he's been around. I'll always have a certain soft spot for the current material because it's where I saw his recent appearances. But I've never, and never will exclude his older material and what made him "great" in the first place. In fact, most of my favorite albums are from the 80's (Purple Rain, 1999, Parade). His music is on a level that is not quite reached by his newest material. I just don't exclude the newest material, no matter how it comes across. I still enjoy Musicology, 3121 and Planet Earth, just for different reasons than 1999, PR and Parade.  good points, all around.... I think the reason people think he hasn't done anything since Purple Rain is that for the most part, since the 90's his music hasn't stood out amongst the crowd...I simply dont understand why his music has become pigeonholed into the r&b direction that it has...minus a track here or there, his formula hasn't changed and I think thats hurt his recognition amongst non fans as an innovator... Actually, D&P and  gave him some recognition. I remember hearing his songs on the radio alot and it some of them were actually played at parties and in the dorms.
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Imago said: roodboi said: good points, all around.... I think the reason people think he hasn't done anything since Purple Rain is that for the most part, since the 90's his music hasn't stood out amongst the crowd...I simply dont understand why his music has become pigeonholed into the r&b direction that it has...minus a track here or there, his formula hasn't changed and I think thats hurt his recognition amongst non fans as an innovator... Actually, D&P and gave him some recognition. I remember hearing his songs on the radio alot and it some of them were actually played at parties and in the dorms.
But he fucked it up by changing his name to a symbol I honestly think that any recognition those albums got was because they weren't so far removed from his mid to late 80's hey day...then like you said, the name change came and even a lyrically innovative song like Cream (  ) couldn't get a mercy spin... | |
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roodboi said: Imago said: I can play 3121 from beginning to end except for "get on the boat" 
But I agree. Not a song released from Musicology till now can be considered a classic. Though I like "All the midnights in the world" I just wish there would be that one song, that one instant classic....some shit that would resonate with everybody...like I said before, evrything was all good 'til Wendy got involved... 
I think Prince very well knows how to get folks riled over a song though. His choice of songs at the superbowl proved this. He chose classics, and white "straight" male friendly songs, and rocked the shit out of his performance. It would be a completely effortless thing for him to translate that to record. He just doesn't.
I think he's trying to get a hit record on his own terms "cutting against the grain, and doing something unexpected---remember a lot of folks thought Planet Earth would reflect the tone of the Superbowl performance." Instead, we got this strange , quirky, likable but forgettable album. Well, Prince remains interesting, if not completely likable. | |
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Imago said: But he fucked it up by changing his name to a symbol
It's so hard to play a song on the radio by someone you can't even pronounce their name. Like, even if it was a long ass complex and near impossible to pronounce name he switched to, that would've been better than a damn symbol. At least the mispronunciations would've been like, half right. Ish.
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Imago said: ToraToraDreams said: I'm special.  What do other kids your age think about Prince? They don't know about him. He's that wierd, gay, short guy that made kiss and/or purple rain. That or they FLAT OUT don't know the name. They'd rather listen to generic rock Jonas brothers or MJ rip offs like Chris Brown. I find, though, that they can like him if they are just exposed to him. I burnt a mix cd once for my best friend who hadn't even heard of "purple rain" and she loved it. So, you know, my generation CAN like him, his music can appeal to us. BUT, they don't know him, so they hate him and I get to be a wierdo. edit: edited for bad english. I'm a 7th generation american and I just can't manage english, sometimes. [Edited 11/15/07 20:27pm] | |
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roodboi said: Imago said: Actually, D&P and gave him some recognition. I remember hearing his songs on the radio alot and it some of them were actually played at parties and in the dorms.
But he fucked it up by changing his name to a symbol I honestly think that any recognition those albums got was because they weren't so far removed from his mid to late 80's hey day...then like you said, the name change came and even a lyrically innovative song like Cream ( ) couldn't get a mercy spin...
I remember hearing D&P (I bought it the day it came out) and thinking 
WTF? The only songs I liked where Thunder, Get off, and Live 4 Love. But even those weren't what I thought were classics.
Honestly, when came out I was blown away. I played it until the tape wore out.
But was a fan so it wasn't like I was listening to any of it objectively.
Now when I play the albums, I do the trigger happy track skip. | |
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Imago said: roodboi said: I just wish there would be that one song, that one instant classic....some shit that would resonate with everybody...like I said before, evrything was all good 'til Wendy got involved...
I think Prince very well knows how to get folks riled over a song though. His choice of songs at the superbowl proved this. He chose classics, and white "straight" male friendly songs, and rocked the shit out of his performance. It would be a completely effortless thing for him to translate that to record. He just doesn't.
I think he's trying to get a hit record on his own terms "cutting against the grain, and doing something unexpected---remember a lot of folks thought Planet Earth would reflect the tone of the Superbowl performance." Instead, we got this strange , quirky, likable but forgettable album. Well, Prince remains interesting, if not completely likable. while I'll kinda agree with likable, I'll disagree with interesting...the Rainbow Children and NEWS were atleast interesting....PE, 3121, Musicology, not so much ...they were just sort of phoned in... | |
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Protege said: Imago said: But he fucked it up by changing his name to a symbol
It's so hard to play a song on the radio by someone you can't even pronounce their name. Like, even if it was a long ass complex and near impossible to pronounce name he switched to, that would've been better than a damn symbol. At least the mispronunciations would've been like, half right. Ish.
@ my online mouth. I laughed my ass off when I found out he changed it to an unpronounceable symbol. I was like... "Well, this is going to be interesting "
But I was young and foolish enough to think that he was serious and earnest when he said he "really was a different person than Prince" and that the Symbol meant something more than just some silly statement against WB. What a waste of his most fuckable years. | |
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Imago said: Protege said:
It's so hard to play a song on the radio by someone you can't even pronounce their name. Like, even if it was a long ass complex and near impossible to pronounce name he switched to, that would've been better than a damn symbol. At least the mispronunciations would've been like, half right. Ish.
@ my online mouth. I laughed my ass off when I found out he changed it to an unpronounceable symbol. I was like... "Well, this is going to be interesting "
But I was young and foolish enough to think that he was serious and earnest when he said he "really was a different person than Prince" and that the Symbol meant something more than just some silly statement against WB. What a waste of his most fuckable years. 
Yeah but he took seven years off "Prince's" age HE'S COMING AGAIN | |
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ToraToraDreams said: Imago said: What do other kids your age think about Prince? They don't know about him. He that wierd, gay, short guy that made kiss and/or purple rain. That or they FLAT OUT don't know the name. They'd rather listen to generic rock Jonas brothers or MJ rip offs like Chris Brown. I find, though, that they can like him if they are just exposed to him. I burnt a mix cd once for my best friend who hadn't even heard of "purple rain" and she loved. So, you know, my generation CAN like him, his music can appeal to us. BUT, they don't know him, so they hate him and I get to be a wierdo. I feel ya! I feel exactly the same.  But look on the bright side.
Prince brings us weirdos together  had 2 run away... pride was 2 strong. It started raining, baby, the birds were gone | |
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Imago said: roodboi said: I honestly think that any recognition those albums got was because they weren't so far removed from his mid to late 80's hey day...then like you said, the name change came and even a lyrically innovative song like Cream ( ) couldn't get a mercy spin...
I remember hearing D&P (I bought it the day it came out) and thinking
WTF? The only songs I liked where Thunder, Get off, and Live 4 Love. But even those weren't what I thought were classics.
Honestly, when came out I was blown away. I played it until the tape wore out.
But was a fan so it wasn't like I was listening to any of it objectively.
Now when I play the albums, I do the trigger happy track skip. man, I played the shit outta ...all bullshit aside, I love me some 3 Chains O' Gold.... | |
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I heard "Raspberry Beret" on the radio in summer of 2003 and I liked that song, so I decided to buy "The Hits / The B-Sides" package from Barnes & Noble and that's how I became a Prince fan. It's only been 4 and 1/2 years but yet I'm still pretty young, so it seems like it's been a long time 2 me.  [Edited 11/15/07 20:32pm]  wish U were here baby, on me--
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Imago said: 1. When and how did you become a Prince fan? What were the circumstances around t? Soft and Wet was heaven to a curious rebellious preteen with an appreciation for music (I listened to everything from Styxx to Billy Joel) and naughtiness.
...Come and Chaos and Disorder made me mad, but I still liked practically everything else and still do including Planet Earth and PFunk.2. What album or song did it for you? Sexy Dancer and Still Waiting both gave me pause. I was to young to realize what was happening but that's when I lost interest in Michael Jackson. I think I actually saw his album cover for Prince and his eyes did that hypnotize thing to me. 3. If you fell out of "fan-dom" which album or phase did that occur in? | |
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roodboi said: Imago said:
I think Prince very well knows how to get folks riled over a song though. His choice of songs at the superbowl proved this. He chose classics, and white "straight" male friendly songs, and rocked the shit out of his performance. It would be a completely effortless thing for him to translate that to record. He just doesn't.
I think he's trying to get a hit record on his own terms "cutting against the grain, and doing something unexpected---remember a lot of folks thought Planet Earth would reflect the tone of the Superbowl performance." Instead, we got this strange , quirky, likable but forgettable album. Well, Prince remains interesting, if not completely likable. while I'll kinda agree with likable, I'll disagree with interesting...the Rainbow Children and NEWS were atleast interesting....PE, 3121, Musicology, not so much ...they were just sort of phoned in...oh I meant Prince remains interesting. The Rainbow children was the last interesting album, and even then I hate concept albums that are narrated. Especially with that stupid Darth Vader voice. Hell, if he had Mavis staples do the narration ala "melody cool" I would have been down with it. TRC was an experiment which had intersting moments, but not exactly the concept albums Pink Floyd's "The Wall", Rush's 2112, or Steve Wonders "Songs in the Key of Life" were.
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roodboi said: Imago said:
I remember hearing D&P (I bought it the day it came out) and thinking
WTF? The only songs I liked where Thunder, Get off, and Live 4 Love. But even those weren't what I thought were classics.
Honestly, when came out I was blown away. I played it until the tape wore out.
But was a fan so it wasn't like I was listening to any of it objectively.
Now when I play the albums, I do the trigger happy track skip. man, I played the shit outta ...all bullshit aside, I love me some 3 Chains O' Gold.... Oh my god
I thought that orchestral part in the song just before he sings "You say , you love me, and then you dooooon't" part was the most melodic thing I'd ever heard
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DreamyPopRoyalty said I feel ya! I feel exactly the same. But look on the bright side.
Prince brings us weirdos together Oh lawd.
ur cool, girl.[Edited 11/15/07 20:37pm] | |
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raveun2thejoyfantastic said: I heard "Raspberry Beret" on the radio in summer of 2003 and I liked that song, so I decided to buy "The Hits / The B-Sides" package from Barnes & Noble and that's how I became a Prince fan. It's only been 4 and 1/2 years but yet I'm still pretty young, so it seems like it's been a long time 2 me.
[Edited 11/15/07 20:32pm] Which albums do you own or have heard? | |
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Protege said: Imago said: I laughed my ass off when I found out he changed it to an unpronounceable symbol. I was like... "Well, this is going to be interesting "
But I was young and foolish enough to think that he was serious and earnest when he said he "really was a different person than Prince" and that the Symbol meant something more than just some silly statement against WB. What a waste of his most fuckable years.
Yeah but he took seven years off "Prince's" age
When he changed his name a symbol, claimed the new music was better than the forgettable "Prince" music, I was all  and  and 
By the time he changed his name back to Prince and announced it in a press conference I was all "dude, fuck off."
Don't get me wrong, The Gold Experience, and some of his other output during that time was fierce as hell. I especially love the Glam Slam Miami South Beach performances. But still.... I could have done without the symbol. | |
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Imago said: roodboi said: man, I played the shit outta ...all bullshit aside, I love me some 3 Chains O' Gold.... Oh my god
I thought that orchestral part in the song just before he sings "You say , you love me, and then you dooooon't" part was the most melodic thing I'd ever heard
bro, I just cued that shit up...I really do love that shit.... | |
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roodboi said: Imago said: Oh my god
I thought that orchestral part in the song just before he sings "You say , you love me, and then you dooooon't" part was the most melodic thing I'd ever heard
bro, I just cued that shit up...I really do love that shit.... OMG, me too x 1 billion
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Give back the chains. If don't you will die. Nothing should come between you and Eyeeeee 
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Imago said: raveun2thejoyfantastic said: I heard "Raspberry Beret" on the radio in summer of 2003 and I liked that song, so I decided to buy "The Hits / The B-Sides" package from Barnes & Noble and that's how I became a Prince fan. It's only been 4 and 1/2 years but yet I'm still pretty young, so it seems like it's been a long time 2 me.
[Edited 11/15/07 20:32pm] Which albums do you own or have heard? I own Purple rain Sign 'O' the times Lovesexy Batman Graffiti bridge Diamonds & pearls
The hits / The b-sides Come The gold experience Chaos & disorder Emancipation Rave un2 the joy fantastic The very best of prince The rainbow children Musicology 3121 So I'm a bit low on the 70's & 80's stuff + the rarer stuff, but still 've heard bits & pieces of almost everything Prince has put out.
P.S.: 'm still pissed that didn't buy the Newpower Soul CD last month, it was at CD Warehouse but couldn't afford it was 8 dollars. I hope its still there maybe go check 2morrow cuz can afford it now. think that CDs pretty rare + wanna hear Wasted Kisses. [Edited 11/15/07 20:52pm] wish U were here baby, on me--
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Imago said: Give back the chains. If don't you will die. Nothing should come between you and Eyeeeee
dude, we are sharing brain cells, I was so gonna post that....poor grammar using bitch...
but I still like it... | |
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raveun2thejoyfantastic said: Imago said: Which albums do you own or have heard? I own Purple rain Sign 'O' the times Lovesexy Batman Graffiti bridge Diamonds & pearls
The hits / The b-sides Come The gold experience Chaos & disorder Emancipation Rave un2 the joy fantastic The very best of prince The rainbow children Musicology 3121 So I'm a bit low on the 70's & 80's stuff + the rarer stuff, but still 've heard bits & pieces of almost everything Prince has put out.
[Edited 11/15/07 20:47pm] Oh definately get ahold of 1999 and especially PARADE! The Black album is a good nod. I really think Prince's 80's albums actually have to be experienced in the chronological order in which he released them | |
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roodboi said: Imago said: Give back the chains. If don't you will die. Nothing should come between you and Eyeeeee
dude, we are sharing brain cells, I was so gonna post that....poor grammar using bitch...
but I still like it...
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Imago said: roodboi said: dude, we are sharing brain cells, I was so gonna post that....poor grammar using bitch...
but I still like it...
I'm dying you know...If I had a dollar for everytime I told a girl "Like Evian and the deep blue sea, you and me got different taste"...I'd have a bunch of goddam dollars... | |
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roodboi said: Imago said:
I'm dying you know...If I had a dollar for everytime I told a girl "Like Evian and the deep blue sea, you and me got different taste"...I'd have a bunch of goddam dollars... I'm going to bed. My face hurts from laughing. | |
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Imago said: raveun2thejoyfantastic said: I own Purple rain Sign 'O' the times Lovesexy Batman Graffiti bridge Diamonds & pearls
The hits / The b-sides Come The gold experience Chaos & disorder Emancipation Rave un2 the joy fantastic The very best of prince The rainbow children Musicology 3121 So I'm a bit low on the 70's & 80's stuff + the rarer stuff, but still 've heard bits & pieces of almost everything Prince has put out.
[Edited 11/15/07 20:47pm] Oh definately get ahold of 1999 and especially PARADE! The Black album is a good nod. I really think Prince's 80's albums actually have to be experienced in the chronological order in which he released them Parade is awesome 
I originally didn't have any interest in it because I thought every song on it would be like "Kiss"... which I thought was good, but not great.  I'm an idiot. Once I saw the movie, I fell in love with the music and now its one of my fav. albums.
1999 is also a must, one of my favorites as well. And The Black Album is also really good. I listened 2 it earlier actually and its a lot of fun. So, you collected 15 albums (not counting the compiliations) over 4 1/2 years? Very nice
I collected just as many over the course of the past 8 months.
While my folks have started to question me (my mom especially), sometimes I wonder how I didn't basically kill myself by burying myself in all this music. How'd I survive all of this good music? I basically got an album a month and haven't really stopped. And being a quick learner helps 
Haha... when I get Lovesexy later this year, I'll have all but one of the 80's albums  That certainly wasn't my attention... just happened, but hard to argue.
After listening to TBA ("When 2 R in Love" especially) tonight, I remembered why 80's Prince is totally had 2 run away... pride was 2 strong. It started raining, baby, the birds were gone | |
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DreamyPopRoyalty said: Imago said: Oh definately get ahold of 1999 and especially PARADE! The Black album is a good nod. I really think Prince's 80's albums actually have to be experienced in the chronological order in which he released them Parade is awesome
I originally didn't have any interest in it because I thought every song on it would be like "Kiss"... which I thought was good, but not great. I'm an idiot. Once I saw the movie, I fell in love with the music and now its one of my fav. albums.
1999 is also a must, one of my favorites as well. And The Black Album is also really good. I listened 2 it earlier actually and its a lot of fun. So, you collected 15 albums (not counting the compiliations) over 4 1/2 years? Very nice
I collected just as many over the course of the past 8 months.
While my folks have started to question me (my mom especially), sometimes I wonder how I didn't basically kill myself by burying myself in all this music. How'd I survive all of this good music? I basically got an album a month and haven't really stopped. And being a quick learner helps
Haha... when I get Lovesexy later this year, I'll have all but one of the 80's albums That certainly wasn't my attention... just happened, but hard to argue.
After listening to TBA ("When 2 R in Love" especially) tonight, I remembered why 80's Prince is totally LoveSexy is a must...I'll never forget getting that album the day it was released....at first I was like  ....after about a week I was like ....but it quickly became my favorite complete album...[Edited 11/15/07 21:11pm] | |
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roodboi said: Imago said:
I'm dying you know...If I had a dollar for everytime I told a girl "Like Evian and the deep blue sea, you and me got different taste"...I'd have a bunch of goddam dollars... WTF??? surviving on the thought of loving you, it's just like the water
I ain't felt this way in years... | |
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