I' sorry, guys, I'm usually polite but I'm forced to let it rip this time:


Lock this thread. These sort of trite, banal topics attract the most posts and is not doing prince.org's reputation any good.For the first time, I'm getting 25 per cent of any idea about why Prince doesn't like these sites.
What hits are we talking about? We're talking about Prince, he's been making records since 1978. He is probably the only rock and roll artist who's still making meaningful music well into his 50s. Are we still teenagers? Do you want a Prince NO.1? What for? To satisfy your ego and convince your neighbour that prince is still good? Well, change your worldview. If a hit is the only criteria, then let's open a blog about britney spears as well. For once, appreciate the music for what it is, rather than forcing prince to dish out the sort of limited rock or pop record you want. Since Musicology and since prince became "hip" again, so to speak (a breakthrough which owed a lot to the slow but steady acceptance of the brilliance of the Rainbow Children), i've found prince fans can be classified into two communities:
1. The older ones and the so-called critics. For prince, it's easy to satisfy these people. Just put a 10-minute guitar solo in every song, or a quirky piano part, and moan and groan over the lord's prayer. That's not how he composes his music anymore: he wants the focus to be on the songwriting. But he can do 23-minute jams too, that's the way he works in the studio and live sometimes. Just listen to the bootlegs. It's the songwriting that counts. Us people didn't like the intense cyber-prince R & B era because prince was in a different zone. We just couldn't relate. Part of prince is still in that zone.
2. The newbies. They don't know their A-sides from their B-sides. Nuff said. Some want him to be Snoop Dogg, some Hendrix. They can't completely relate to prince either.
And yes, it's true that the stupid discussions about Planet Earth being a bad album affected its reputation. We would have done the same to ATWIAD and Parade too if he had released it now. How many people could understand a new album called `parade', especially if kiss wasn't a hit and prince's mystique levels weren't that high? We would all say it's outdated trash, and people would buy it. It's like the hacks in the media influencing people about topics they have no clue about.
I'm sick and tired of discussions about how prince doesn't have a hit since 'most beautiful.." what, is it a better song than "the word"? or "moon beam levels"? or "in a large room with no lights"? Or "My computer?" Yes and no. Would it have been a better song or a bad song if it was just tucked away into an album and wasn't a hit? Can you decide? No.
Grow up, guys, young and old alike. That includes me too, obviously. I've been guilty of this so-called speculation as much as the next guy. But a discussion about the lack of hits again? Is this a michael jackson forum? That guy has no identity apart from the hits. We're talking prince here.

roodboi said:

The maxi-single for TGRES is actually a great maxi. In it during one of his "raps" he states (referencing raper, Eve's involvement) "together we make the remix a big seller".


So yeah, I get the feeling Prince wanted this to be his re-introduction into the limelight.




To me, he had already missed his opportunity with 1999-TNM, both poorly executed, and timed awkwardly. Prince could have owned the year 1999.

Yeah....I asked Prince about this at the Celebration when I had a chance to interview him along with about 10 others. He said that was written for the record label. He got a little pissed when I asked him about it because he had just said he didn't care about hits anymore and I felt he was contradicting himself witht that statement. When I asked him, he looked right at me and pulled his chair closer to me and said "Let's talk about that". He was cool about it and I think appreciated me challenging him instead of just sitting back in awe.

I' sorry, guys, I'm usually polite but I'm forced to let it rip this time:


Lock this thread.

These sort of trite, banal topics attract the most posts and is not doing prince.org's reputation any good.For the first time, I'm getting 25 per cent of any idea about why Prince doesn't like these sites.

If a hit is the only criteria, then let's open a blog about britney spears as well. For once, appreciate the music for what it is, rather than forcing prince to dish out the sort of limited rock or pop record you want.

Just listen to the bootlegs.

It's the songwriting that counts.

I'm sick and tired of discussions about how prince doesn't have a hit since 'most beautiful.." what, is it a better song than "the word"? or "moon beam levels"? or "in a large room with no lights"? Or "My computer?" Yes and no.

Grow up,

Funkyalien said:

1. The older ones and the so-called critics. For prince, it's easy to satisfy these people. Just put a 10-minute guitar solo in every song, or a quirky piano part, and moan and groan over the lord's prayer.

That's not how he composes his music anymore: he wants the focus to be on the songwriting.

2. The newbies. They don't know their A-sides from their B-sides. Nuff said. Some want him to be Snoop Dogg, some Hendrix. They can't completely relate to prince either.

We would have done the same to ATWIAD and Parade too if he had released it now. How many people could understand a new album called `parade', especially if kiss wasn't a hit and prince's mystique levels weren't that high? We would all say it's outdated trash, and people would buy it.

but prodigalfan, it's strange you haven't heard 'my computer'.

So nothing that charts other Billboard charts is considered successful. Even the top ten Album (CD) Chart !!!
Get your facts straight before you come with this nonsense again. P is doing okay for a 50-year-old black man.
Your not going to see any top ten hits for Bruce, Rolling Stones or any other oldie act but they have something a lot of younger acts do not have talent

HomeSquid said:

laurarichardson said:

heres soemthing i realised lat year kate bush prince and madonna are all born on the ames year!!! and they all have huge success with album sales but not so much singles, i find that the singles dont do that well any way cause when an artist is that old they have a lot of true fans cause theres so much material to collect and most fans would want the album and dont bother buying the singles and thats whay they dont chart(stating the obvious).....

question!
what makes someone a hit... one with loyal fans that sell out stadiums, and buy every freaking thing you put out... even perfume, or one who sells mega volume singles to casual fans... only to be never heard of again.

prodigalfan said: It doesn't bother me that people don't think Emancipation was a hit. I do, I listen to it so much I ruined my copy... have to burn a new one.(thank god I learned to never play my originals or I would be looking for a out of print CD again.

I did the same to my emancipation copy too...have to burn a new one as well! talk about coincidence.