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Printableetifaim said: blackguitaristz said: I've ran a few threads on this very song awhile back. But mine of course, was dealing with the 12' version. The "MAYDAY" version. Or more specific, the "Black" version. Which DESTROYS the album version. The other thread dealt with Bebe Buell, the famous 70's model, who's the mother of Liv Tyler. Who's dad is Steven. Anyway, in her book, she swears that LRC is about her. Saying that P actually says her name in the song. On the line "baby, you're much too fast." She and her friend Elvis Costello both swear that P is singing "Bebe, you're much to fast.". Costello, who was dating Bebe, accussed her of dating P, because why else would he say her name? True story. It's all in her book that came out a couple of years ago. This song was heavily discussed on my thread that's been up for awhile now, about the singles that were released from the 1999 album.
U always go the juice.  Sorry about that. Trust me, I hold back often. Cuz u have folks on here who trip, u know? SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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We all know the song 'too well'. You forget how good it is unless you really think about and break the song down. \
You think it's more of a rock song with Prince's signature synths but it's so much more. In hindsight, it's 2nd nature to Prince to mix up styles etc. but you have a black guy singing a rock song but singing it like it's a soul classic. Do you know what I mean...especially when he goes crazy with that 'limousiiiinnnnee' line. Who else before him could mix styles so effortlessly? He really was the greatest hybrid....and the lyrics. As Alan Leeds said, you wish you could put him back to sleep so he could dream up more lines. I think this latter part is what is missing most in his music, weirdo lyrics. Yes, 'all the midnights in the world' is right up there with thebest of them but I have a feeling that is an old song. Anyhow, I love this song for many reason. It being one of the first songs to grip me is probalby near the top . But, now that I've become such a sophisticated listner:) I think it's probably one of the best genre mixes ever. Only Prince. To think he was able to do something this great so early in his career says a lot about how special Prince was and is. To think he let Dez do the solo on what they surely knew would be a huge hit says something more about him. He was ultra confident, then and now. | |
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Prince has done the wild thing simultaneously with so many women, it is hard to keep track.... I'm sure if we asked him he would tell us  | |
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blackguitaristz said: etifaim said:
U always got the juice.
spelling edit edited 11/14/07 7:45pm Sorry about that. Trust me, I hold back often. Cuz u have folks on here who trip, u know? No need to apologize. I like reading your stuff. 
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What was he, 23 when he wrote that song? Fucking hell. "What kind of fuck ending is that?" | |
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etifaim said: blackguitaristz said: Sorry about that. Trust me, I hold back often. Cuz u have folks on here who trip, u know? No need to apologize. I like reading your stuff.
You got mad knowledge shhhhh...(whispers) not so loud....other's may hear u and they'll get mad...(still whispering)...thanx for the kind words just the same. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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Ronny said: We all know the song 'too well'. You forget how good it is unless you really think about and break the song down. \
You think it's more of a rock song with Prince's signature synths but it's so much more. In hindsight, it's 2nd nature to Prince to mix up styles etc. but you have a black guy singing a rock song but singing it like it's a soul classic. Do you know what I mean...especially when he goes crazy with that 'limousiiiinnnnee' line. Who else before him could mix styles so effortlessly? He really was the greatest hybrid....and the lyrics. As Alan Leeds said, you wish you could put him back to sleep so he could dream up more lines. I think this latter part is what is missing most in his music, weirdo lyrics. Yes, 'all the midnights in the world' is right up there with thebest of them but I have a feeling that is an old song. Anyhow, I love this song for many reason. It being one of the first songs to grip me is probalby near the top . But, now that I've become such a sophisticated listner:) I think it's probably one of the best genre mixes ever. Only Prince. To think he was able to do something this great so early in his career says a lot about how special Prince was and is. To think he let Dez do the solo on what they surely knew would be a huge hit says something more about him. He was ultra confident, then and now. Good points. P was a master genre mixer in the sense that he had a TOTAL grasp of different styles and he UNDERSTOOD what certain inflections, when sung on certain tracks, what it would give off. He definately sung the track in a gospel tone more than anything else, really. Except for on the verses, he used his Marc Bolan from T-Rex vibe mixed with a gospel slant. Just enough. It's a black church in Britain. That's LRC. I spoke in my other thread about Dez's involvement in this song and WHY I thought P used Dez. I think because P KNEW this was a crossover hit, he wanted Dez's guitar sound AND Dez's vocals on this. On previous tours before this album, Dez was the one who was a favorite among the whites in the crowd. Dez WAS rock. Not a hybrid like P. Prince is a brother who plays rock. Dez was just rock. And P used that from Dez. Often. Especially live. Prince's guitar leads, at that time, although obviously rock, had more of a black sound to it. In other words, u knew that it was a brother playing a guitar solo when u listened to P. P's always had "soul" in his leads. Listen to the lead on Lady Cab Driver and the lead on 777-9311. KILLER solo's. Some of his best. But P's has that Hendrix/Santana thing ALL over his leads. Especially then. Dez on the other hand has none of that. Dez's sound is waaay more white bread sounding. So P wanted more of a white sounding solo than what he would have put. Dez was the man for that. And P understood that. He din't want to fuck up this song from getting all the crossover it could get. So the more twang the better. He knew he would take care of the rest with his vocals. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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pplrain said: Prince has done the wild thing simultaneously with so many women, it is hard to keep track....
I'm sure if we asked him he would tell us Prince?!?!? surviving on the thought of loving you, it's just like the water
I ain't felt this way in years... | |
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Song is class, both studio and live versions..
"1999 revisited " bootleg has a good live version of it, but my fav has to be Sign o the times (show) version..the intro to it was truly melodic! "Dead in the middle of Little Italy little did we know
that we riddled some middleman who didn't do diddily"--BP | |
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roodboi said: Rinluv said:   Prince is always gonna play this song no matter what. He's always gonna have LRC somewhere in the mix at a show.
[Edited 11/14/07 16:03pm] yeah, this songs is a must live...unless he does it with horns  You're right, like when he plays Let's Go Crazy with horns in it.  Prince now replaces the songs that had sythesizers and puts horns in it's place. Prince ruins alot of old classics when he puts horns on them.Some people think I'm kinda cute
But that don't compute when it comes 2 Y-O-U. | |
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Definitely one of his best songs!  "And When The Groove Is Dead And Gone, You Know That Love Survives, So We Can Rock Forever" RIP MJ 
"Baby, that was much too fast"...Goodnight dear sweet Prince. I'll love you always | |
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purplewisdom said: Song is class, both studio and live versions..
"1999 revisited " bootleg has a good live version of it, but my fav has to be Sign o the times (show) version..the intro to it was truly melodic! SOTT has a great version, even with the horns! "What kind of fuck ending is that?" | |
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The 12"  | |
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wonder505 said: what's amazing is how I didn't figure out what the song was about until I was older,
 after singing it for so long.
Did anyone see the acoustic version opening night at the Staples Center of Musicology? OMG that was so sweet, he literally had me in the palm of his hands. 
[Edited 11/14/07 16:32pm] I was standing right there with tears in my eyes and love in my heart 4 my musical hero |
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blackguitaristz said: Ronny said: We all know the song 'too well'. You forget how good it is unless you really think about and break the song down. \
You think it's more of a rock song with Prince's signature synths but it's so much more. In hindsight, it's 2nd nature to Prince to mix up styles etc. but you have a black guy singing a rock song but singing it like it's a soul classic. Do you know what I mean...especially when he goes crazy with that 'limousiiiinnnnee' line. Who else before him could mix styles so effortlessly? He really was the greatest hybrid....and the lyrics. As Alan Leeds said, you wish you could put him back to sleep so he could dream up more lines. I think this latter part is what is missing most in his music, weirdo lyrics. Yes, 'all the midnights in the world' is right up there with thebest of them but I have a feeling that is an old song. Anyhow, I love this song for many reason. It being one of the first songs to grip me is probalby near the top . But, now that I've become such a sophisticated listner:) I think it's probably one of the best genre mixes ever. Only Prince. To think he was able to do something this great so early in his career says a lot about how special Prince was and is. To think he let Dez do the solo on what they surely knew would be a huge hit says something more about him. He was ultra confident, then and now. Good points. P was a master genre mixer in the sense that he had a TOTAL grasp of different styles and he UNDERSTOOD what certain inflections, when sung on certain tracks, what it would give off. He definately sung the track in a gospel tone more than anything else, really. Except for on the verses, he used his Marc Bolan from T-Rex vibe mixed with a gospel slant. Just enough. It's a black church in Britain. That's LRC. I spoke in my other thread about Dez's involvement in this song and WHY I thought P used Dez. I think because P KNEW this was a crossover hit, he wanted Dez's guitar sound AND Dez's vocals on this. On previous tours before this album, Dez was the one who was a favorite among the whites in the crowd. Dez WAS rock. Not a hybrid like P. Prince is a brother who plays rock. Dez was just rock. And P used that from Dez. Often. Especially live. Prince's guitar leads, at that time, although obviously rock, had more of a black sound to it. In other words, u knew that it was a brother playing a guitar solo when u listened to P. P's always had "soul" in his leads. Listen to the lead on Lady Cab Driver and the lead on 777-9311. KILLER solo's. Some of his best. But P's has that Hendrix/Santana thing ALL over his leads. Especially then. Dez on the other hand has none of that. Dez's sound is waaay more white bread sounding. So P wanted more of a white sounding solo than what he would have put. Dez was the man for that. And P understood that. He din't want to fuck up this song from getting all the crossover it could get. So the more twang the better. He knew he would take care of the rest with his vocals. Good Points, From Dez's book he says that the solo is a composite of 4 different solos. He did several takes and prince edited them down to one using different bits of each one. It created a melodic flow that Dez says he wouldn't have played naturally. Besides, who else would be playing the solo in the video when P was doing his little dance? 'Somewhere in Uptown' | |
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wonderful!
listened to it just yesterday and it´s still one of the best rock songs ever!! | |
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It's a crucial song in his career. If he hadn't crossed over, I doubt he would've got the backing for a movie project. No Purple Rain, I doubt we'd be writing on a website dedicated to him. | |
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nemesis2099 said: Good Points,
From Dez's book he says that the solo is a composite of 4 different solos. He did several takes and prince edited them down to one using different bits of each one. It created a melodic flow that Dez says he wouldn't have played naturally. Besides, who else would be playing the solo in the video when P was doing his little dance?  Love the little dance... and the only thing little about it is his height... I was like  when I saw it the first time.
But that's a really interesting story. I didn't know that. Haha... composite of 4 guitar solos... Prince really is brilliant. I say that a lot, but finding all of these little tidbits only add to how amazing I think he is. It's a crucial song in his career. If he hadn't crossed over, I doubt he would've got the backing for a movie project. No Purple Rain, I doubt we'd be writing on a website dedicated to him.
You know what? I think you might be right about that. Another reason to love the song had 2 run away... pride was 2 strong. It started raining, baby, the birds were gone | |
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mynameisnotsusan said: It's a crucial song in his career. If he hadn't crossed over, I doubt he would've got the backing for a movie project. No Purple Rain, I doubt we'd be writing on a website dedicated to him.
I thought they got the financing from Mo Ostin (WB records) to film PR before LRC hit? I know he was working with the script writer not long before LRC peaked. IIRC, WB's film division waited until the movie was wrapped before they got behind it, so his crossover success certainly helped PR get promoted. "What kind of fuck ending is that?" | |
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Rinluv said: Prince is always gonna play this song no matter what. He's always gonna have LRC somewhere in the mix at a show.
[Edited 11/14/07 16:03pm] 'If you drove up here in a little corvette, you might be surprised at what you gonna get' Prince on the One Nite Alone tour. One of the first Prince songs I heard as a kid. I like the story about John Cougar Mellencamp taking his tape deck out on stage at his gigs to play the song to his audience | |
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pplrain said: ritaw said: well i thought it was about a car !!!! My husband who is NOT a Prince fan, told me it was about a woman's nether regions... I said "whaaat??" and then listened to the lyrics carefully Prince sure is sneaky...Your husband is idiot #1 | |
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blackguitaristz said: Ronny said: We all know the song 'too well'. You forget how good it is unless you really think about and break the song down. \
You think it's more of a rock song with Prince's signature synths but it's so much more. In hindsight, it's 2nd nature to Prince to mix up styles etc. but you have a black guy singing a rock song but singing it like it's a soul classic. Do you know what I mean...especially when he goes crazy with that 'limousiiiinnnnee' line. Who else before him could mix styles so effortlessly? He really was the greatest hybrid....and the lyrics. As Alan Leeds said, you wish you could put him back to sleep so he could dream up more lines. I think this latter part is what is missing most in his music, weirdo lyrics. Yes, 'all the midnights in the world' is right up there with thebest of them but I have a feeling that is an old song. Anyhow, I love this song for many reason. It being one of the first songs to grip me is probalby near the top . But, now that I've become such a sophisticated listner:) I think it's probably one of the best genre mixes ever. Only Prince. To think he was able to do something this great so early in his career says a lot about how special Prince was and is. To think he let Dez do the solo on what they surely knew would be a huge hit says something more about him. He was ultra confident, then and now. Good points. P was a master genre mixer in the sense that he had a TOTAL grasp of different styles and he UNDERSTOOD what certain inflections, when sung on certain tracks, what it would give off. He definately sung the track in a gospel tone more than anything else, really. Except for on the verses, he used his Marc Bolan from T-Rex vibe mixed with a gospel slant. Just enough. It's a black church in Britain. That's LRC. I spoke in my other thread about Dez's involvement in this song and WHY I thought P used Dez. I think because P KNEW this was a crossover hit, he wanted Dez's guitar sound AND Dez's vocals on this. On previous tours before this album, Dez was the one who was a favorite among the whites in the crowd. Dez WAS rock. Not a hybrid like P. Prince is a brother who plays rock. Dez was just rock. And P used that from Dez. Often. Especially live. Prince's guitar leads, at that time, although obviously rock, had more of a black sound to it. In other words, u knew that it was a brother playing a guitar solo when u listened to P. P's always had "soul" in his leads. Listen to the lead on Lady Cab Driver and the lead on 777-9311. KILLER solo's. Some of his best. But P's has that Hendrix/Santana thing ALL over his leads. Especially then. Dez on the other hand has none of that. Dez's sound is waaay more white bread sounding. So P wanted more of a white sounding solo than what he would have put. Dez was the man for that. And P understood that. He din't want to fuck up this song from getting all the crossover it could get. So the more twang the better. He knew he would take care of the rest with his vocals. Now that is why your opinion is valuable..I would never have thought of that. Knowing how calculating P was/is, i believe you completely. That solo has never sounded like 'prince' to me. Maybe it's cuz I know it's not him...not sure. It is not fluid enough to come from P. I have heard from sources that P indeed has een frustrated by not being taken more seriously as a guitar player by the general public. I'm not saying he stays up late thinking about it...but I've heard it has bothered him in the past. Why would a guy can do what he cando (remember Fury during SNL in 2006?), not show it off more? | |
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nemesis2099 said: blackguitaristz said: Good points. P was a master genre mixer in the sense that he had a TOTAL grasp of different styles and he UNDERSTOOD what certain inflections, when sung on certain tracks, what it would give off. He definately sung the track in a gospel tone more than anything else, really. Except for on the verses, he used his Marc Bolan from T-Rex vibe mixed with a gospel slant. Just enough. It's a black church in Britain. That's LRC. I spoke in my other thread about Dez's involvement in this song and WHY I thought P used Dez. I think because P KNEW this was a crossover hit, he wanted Dez's guitar sound AND Dez's vocals on this. On previous tours before this album, Dez was the one who was a favorite among the whites in the crowd. Dez WAS rock. Not a hybrid like P. Prince is a brother who plays rock. Dez was just rock. And P used that from Dez. Often. Especially live. Prince's guitar leads, at that time, although obviously rock, had more of a black sound to it. In other words, u knew that it was a brother playing a guitar solo when u listened to P. P's always had "soul" in his leads. Listen to the lead on Lady Cab Driver and the lead on 777-9311. KILLER solo's. Some of his best. But P's has that Hendrix/Santana thing ALL over his leads. Especially then. Dez on the other hand has none of that. Dez's sound is waaay more white bread sounding. So P wanted more of a white sounding solo than what he would have put. Dez was the man for that. And P understood that. He din't want to fuck up this song from getting all the crossover it could get. So the more twang the better. He knew he would take care of the rest with his vocals. Good Points, From Dez's book he says that the solo is a composite of 4 different solos. He did several takes and prince edited them down to one using different bits of each one. It created a melodic flow that Dez says he wouldn't have played naturally. Besides, who else would be playing the solo in the video when P was doing his little dance? True. "For those who know the number and don't call...Fuck all y'all" | |
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Well, you haven't heard this song in its total awesomeness until you've heard me sing it in my car on the way to work. Shake it til ya make it | |
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I doubt this is about any girl specifically but about vag in genral Gosh, remember how absolutely awesome this and the 1999 video were when we were kids! See pplrain, I'm being positive and nice! 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: I doubt this is about any girl specifically but about vag in genral
Gosh, remember how absolutely awesome this and the 1999 video were when we were kids! See pplrain, I'm being positive and nice! My first exposure to Prince was seeing the video for 1999. It was on a VHS tape my dad made of 80's music videos. I didn't think too much of it at the time.
But it [1999] was the 3rd video I picked out when I found that site with about 10 Prince videos. I vaguely remember seeing it years ago, but now, it's totally awesome cuz now I know who Prince is had 2 run away... pride was 2 strong. It started raining, baby, the birds were gone | |
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DreamyPopRoyalty said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: I doubt this is about any girl specifically but about vag in genral
Gosh, remember how absolutely awesome this and the 1999 video were when we were kids! See pplrain, I'm being positive and nice! My first exposure to Prince was seeing the video for 1999. It was on a VHS tape my dad made of 80's music videos. I didn't think too much of it at the time.
But it [1999] was the 3rd video I picked out when I found that site with about 10 Prince videos. I vaguely remember seeing it years ago, but now, it's totally awesome cuz now I know who Prince is Wow, yr dad made u compilation of 80s music videos with Prince in it, that's cool. How times have changed, back in 1983/84 to a lot of parents, Prince was seen as the cross-dressing, high-heeled weirdo pop star singing dirty songs, even michael jackson seemed more 'normal' than P to the general public. 20 Years on & P is conservative enough for dads 2 like and jacko is the oddball.  'Somewhere in Uptown' | |
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blackguitaristz said: Ronny said: We all know the song 'too well'. You forget how good it is unless you really think about and break the song down. \
You think it's more of a rock song with Prince's signature synths but it's so much more. In hindsight, it's 2nd nature to Prince to mix up styles etc. but you have a black guy singing a rock song but singing it like it's a soul classic. Do you know what I mean...especially when he goes crazy with that 'limousiiiinnnnee' line. Who else before him could mix styles so effortlessly? He really was the greatest hybrid....and the lyrics. As Alan Leeds said, you wish you could put him back to sleep so he could dream up more lines. I think this latter part is what is missing most in his music, weirdo lyrics. Yes, 'all the midnights in the world' is right up there with thebest of them but I have a feeling that is an old song. Anyhow, I love this song for many reason. It being one of the first songs to grip me is probalby near the top . But, now that I've become such a sophisticated listner:) I think it's probably one of the best genre mixes ever. Only Prince. To think he was able to do something this great so early in his career says a lot about how special Prince was and is. To think he let Dez do the solo on what they surely knew would be a huge hit says something more about him. He was ultra confident, then and now. Good points. P was a master genre mixer in the sense that he had a TOTAL grasp of different styles and he UNDERSTOOD what certain inflections, when sung on certain tracks, what it would give off. He definately sung the track in a gospel tone more than anything else, really. Except for on the verses, he used his Marc Bolan from T-Rex vibe mixed with a gospel slant. Just enough. It's a black church in Britain. That's LRC. I spoke in my other thread about Dez's involvement in this song and WHY I thought P used Dez. I think because P KNEW this was a crossover hit, he wanted Dez's guitar sound AND Dez's vocals on this. On previous tours before this album, Dez was the one who was a favorite among the whites in the crowd. Dez WAS rock. Not a hybrid like P. Prince is a brother who plays rock. Dez was just rock. And P used that from Dez. Often. Especially live. Prince's guitar leads, at that time, although obviously rock, had more of a black sound to it. In other words, u knew that it was a brother playing a guitar solo when u listened to P. P's always had "soul" in his leads. Listen to the lead on Lady Cab Driver and the lead on 777-9311. KILLER solo's. Some of his best. But P's has that Hendrix/Santana thing ALL over his leads. Especially then. Dez on the other hand has none of that. Dez's sound is waaay more white bread sounding. So P wanted more of a white sounding solo than what he would have put. Dez was the man for that. And P understood that. He din't want to fuck up this song from getting all the crossover it could get. So the more twang the better. He knew he would take care of the rest with his vocals. Could this be the reason why he's wearing jeans in the video? Those jeans always kinda bother me when I'm watching the video. I know it's rude, she's a dude, but all I want is easy action baby! -Marc Bolan | |
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pplrain said: One of my Prince faves and I have many.....
Who inspired this song and why?? (I know someone knows the answer out there!)  Indeed! I love the extended version! | |
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etifaim said: Yes, love it. The entire 1999 brings back the most memories for me. Made me a fan.
Yeah! It made me a fan as well. INTERNATIONAL LOVER! DMSR! Oh, and , and, one of my many favorites AUTOMATIC! | |
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