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How do you feel about bootlegging now? I'm just wondering if there is anyone that was against bootlegging, but now feels dissed by Prince and has decided, "Screw him. I used to be against bootlegging because Prince said it was wrong. But he doesn't care for me, so I'm not going to deny myself bootlegs any longer".
I wonder if "PFUnk" might ultimately make bootlegging a bigger problem for Prince that it was before. For the record, I'm against bootlegging, although not as fervently as before. | |
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With the advent of the internet and since the out-takes started to really dry up from '96 onwards, bootlegging is pretty much dead. What gets pressed and released now circulates to such a micro-niche of the fanbase it's surely negligible. What gets released or circulated on the internet was almost all out there before the explosion of the internet (excluding newer live stuff obviously). So it's not the mountain of unreleased tracks is growing and growing, it's pretty much stayed static for the past 10 years, give or take a few dozen tracks/demos.
I honestly think if you're worried what Prince thinks about you obtaining access to unauthorized recordings or unreleased studio material, you've got a screw loose. | |
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I'm neither for nor against it. I have a certain amount of bootlegged material (I'm not going to say I "own" it) but, if given the opportunity to obtain the same material through legitimate means, would (and have) done so.
I don't make a big deal about it, I don't advertise it, and I don't brag about it. It just is. We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. | |
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Why would it make Bootlegging a bigger problem? hOnesty, I can think of better ways of showing my angst. But do you really think P cares what you do? Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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Bootlegging is wrong - period, there is no question about that.
Now in a bigger question is it wrong for a fan to want to hear every thing he/she can about an artist because they have such admiration for that artist? At the end of the day this same fan is also going to buy every official release available. So yes Bootlegging is wrong and against the law but the temptation is always there as with anything that is forbidden. | |
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Oh shit, my hat done fell off | |
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Bootlegging's always going to be wrong. For whatever reason, the little guy doesn't want certain shit released--and I can't imagine the violation and frustration he experiences knowing we've all heard everything from 'Electric Intercourse' to 'Wally'. But I think I speak for everyone when I say I'd gladly pay for these tunes. My intention isn't to steal a thing. It's just hard sitting through his latest official releases when I know there's gold having been stored away all these years.
And man, whose fault is it these shits got out? It took him a long time to tighten up his people enough to stop track leakage, eh? Who are the folks who got these tracks out to begin with? Oh shit, my hat done fell off | |
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We've established Prince's problem years ago, and I'm disapointed that the mods have not updated the Q&A section of the org.
Prince's sporadic releases of the last 10 years (3 albums in a year, or 2 years between albums depending on his mood), some would argue is the result of him having to balance being both the manager of his trade, the promoter, as well as producer, singer, writer, and musician. It's too many hats, some may prostrate. However, these are not accurate. Prince effortlessly handles all of these things, and it's never been an issue for him. Moreover, he's proven that he can do them and still sell out crowds in London 21 nights in a row, or release an album to #1 like 3121 in its first week. So the issue can NOT be related to his actual business model, as is implied in this thread. The problem is Princes fear of Dehydrogenated monoxide. Call me crazy, but you can see his obsession with the stuff in Purple Rain, The Holy River, When 2 r in Love, Soft and Wet, and the list goes on and on. Dehydrogenated monoxide has been linked to corrosion, rusting, bacterial growth, mold, and all manner of things that plague us. The US government has not admitted it, but it's in our drinking supply, and no matter what you try to do, it can't remove it. Sites claim that if you wash your hands for hours, it will still be on your hands that entire time. For those of you who have been in Paisley park in the last 2 years, you'll notice that the water fountains are filtered, and that toilet paper is handed out only upon request, because it contains traces of dehydrogenated monoxide. This lead to all manner of rumers that Prince does not use toilet paper, but that has never been proven, though one could surmise that if Prince is willing to insulate Paisley Park, and indeed his house from receiving the substance (which comes is found in large doses in droplets of rain in Minneapolis), that it would not be too far a stretch that he's stop using TP. One can search through his lyrics and find references to the stuff, disguised as other "cute" names, but the obsession is there. It's pervasive, and it's ruining his career. | |
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Imago said: We've established Prince's problem years ago, and I'm disapointed that the mods have not updated the Q&A section of the org.
Prince's sporadic releases of the last 10 years (3 albums in a year, or 2 years between albums depending on his mood), some would argue is the result of him having to balance being both the manager of his trade, the promoter, as well as producer, singer, writer, and musician. It's too many hats, some may prostrate. However, these are not accurate. Prince effortlessly handles all of these things, and it's never been an issue for him. Moreover, he's proven that he can do them and still sell out crowds in London 21 nights in a row, or release an album to #1 like 3121 in its first week. So the issue can NOT be related to his actual business model, as is implied in this thread. The problem is Princes fear of Dehydrogenated monoxide. Call me crazy, but you can see his obsession with the stuff in Purple Rain, The Holy River, When 2 r in Love, Soft and Wet, and the list goes on and on. Dehydrogenated monoxide has been linked to corrosion, rusting, bacterial growth, mold, and all manner of things that plague us. The US government has not admitted it, but it's in our drinking supply, and no matter what you try to do, it can't remove it. Sites claim that if you wash your hands for hours, it will still be on your hands that entire time. For those of you who have been in Paisley park in the last 2 years, you'll notice that the water fountains are filtered, and that toilet paper is handed out only upon request, because it contains traces of dehydrogenated monoxide. This lead to all manner of rumers that Prince does not use toilet paper, but that has never been proven, though one could surmise that if Prince is willing to insulate Paisley Park, and indeed his house from receiving the substance (which comes is found in large doses in droplets of rain in Minneapolis), that it would not be too far a stretch that he's stop using TP. One can search through his lyrics and find references to the stuff, disguised as other "cute" names, but the obsession is there. It's pervasive, and it's ruining his career.  "For those who know the number and don't call...Fuck all y'all" | |
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INSATIABLE said: Bootlegging's always going to be wrong. For whatever reason, the little guy doesn't want certain shit released--and I can't imagine the violation and frustration he experiences knowing we've all heard everything from 'Electric Intercourse' to 'Wally'.
wait,when did you hear wally? hook it up.... we can jackie chan it up' in this bitch! | |
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Imago said: We've established Prince's problem years ago, and I'm disapointed that the mods have not updated the Q&A section of the org.
Prince's sporadic releases of the last 10 years (3 albums in a year, or 2 years between albums depending on his mood), some would argue is the result of him having to balance being both the manager of his trade, the promoter, as well as producer, singer, writer, and musician. It's too many hats, some may prostrate. However, these are not accurate. Prince effortlessly handles all of these things, and it's never been an issue for him. Moreover, he's proven that he can do them and still sell out crowds in London 21 nights in a row, or release an album to #1 like 3121 in its first week. So the issue can NOT be related to his actual business model, as is implied in this thread. The problem is Princes fear of Dehydrogenated monoxide. Call me crazy, but you can see his obsession with the stuff in Purple Rain, The Holy River, When 2 r in Love, Soft and Wet, and the list goes on and on. Dehydrogenated monoxide has been linked to corrosion, rusting, bacterial growth, mold, and all manner of things that plague us. The US government has not admitted it, but it's in our drinking supply, and no matter what you try to do, it can't remove it. Sites claim that if you wash your hands for hours, it will still be on your hands that entire time. For those of you who have been in Paisley park in the last 2 years, you'll notice that the water fountains are filtered, and that toilet paper is handed out only upon request, because it contains traces of dehydrogenated monoxide. This lead to all manner of rumers that Prince does not use toilet paper, but that has never been proven, though one could surmise that if Prince is willing to insulate Paisley Park, and indeed his house from receiving the substance (which comes is found in large doses in droplets of rain in Minneapolis), that it would not be too far a stretch that he's stop using TP. One can search through his lyrics and find references to the stuff, disguised as other "cute" names, but the obsession is there. It's pervasive, and it's ruining his career. You're bonkers!!  | |
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Christopher said: INSATIABLE said: Bootlegging's always going to be wrong. For whatever reason, the little guy doesn't want certain shit released--and I can't imagine the violation and frustration he experiences knowing we've all heard everything from 'Electric Intercourse' to 'Wally'.
wait,when did you hear wally? hook it up.... we can jackie chan it up' in this bitch! i 2nd that | |
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Genesia said: I'm neither for nor against it. I have a certain amount of bootlegged material (I'm not going to say I "own" it) but, if given the opportunity to obtain the same material through legitimate means, would (and have) done so.
I don't make a big deal about it, I don't advertise it, and I don't brag about it. It just is. You're a brave one I'll give you that. The short arse will have his team of internet nerds tracking you down as we speak. | |
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Imago said: We've established Prince's problem years ago, and I'm disapointed that the mods have not updated the Q&A section of the org.
Prince's sporadic releases of the last 10 years (3 albums in a year, or 2 years between albums depending on his mood), some would argue is the result of him having to balance being both the manager of his trade, the promoter, as well as producer, singer, writer, and musician. It's too many hats, some may prostrate. However, these are not accurate. Prince effortlessly handles all of these things, and it's never been an issue for him. Moreover, he's proven that he can do them and still sell out crowds in London 21 nights in a row, or release an album to #1 like 3121 in its first week. So the issue can NOT be related to his actual business model, as is implied in this thread. The problem is Princes fear of Dehydrogenated monoxide. Call me crazy, but you can see his obsession with the stuff in Purple Rain, The Holy River, When 2 r in Love, Soft and Wet, and the list goes on and on. Dehydrogenated monoxide has been linked to corrosion, rusting, bacterial growth, mold, and all manner of things that plague us. The US government has not admitted it, but it's in our drinking supply, and no matter what you try to do, it can't remove it. Sites claim that if you wash your hands for hours, it will still be on your hands that entire time. For those of you who have been in Paisley park in the last 2 years, you'll notice that the water fountains are filtered, and that toilet paper is handed out only upon request, because it contains traces of dehydrogenated monoxide. This lead to all manner of rumers that Prince does not use toilet paper, but that has never been proven, though one could surmise that if Prince is willing to insulate Paisley Park, and indeed his house from receiving the substance (which comes is found in large doses in droplets of rain in Minneapolis), that it would not be too far a stretch that he's stop using TP. One can search through his lyrics and find references to the stuff, disguised as other "cute" names, but the obsession is there. It's pervasive, and it's ruining his career. That's what I was trying to say. | |
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RodeoSchro said: I'm just wondering if there is anyone that was against bootlegging, but now feels dissed by Prince and has decided, "Screw him. I used to be against bootlegging because Prince said it was wrong. But he doesn't care for me, so I'm not going to deny myself bootlegs any longer".
I wonder if "PFUnk" might ultimately make bootlegging a bigger problem for Prince that it was before. For the record, I'm against bootlegging, although not as fervently as before. Pretty much the same thoughts. I didn't agree with bootlegging, never bought bootlegs, but now.....hmmm....looking VERY tempting, especially having to give up so much of my personal time dealing with this shit! Ok...now that's bad, I never cuss | |
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txladykat said: RodeoSchro said: I'm just wondering if there is anyone that was against bootlegging, but now feels dissed by Prince and has decided, "Screw him. I used to be against bootlegging because Prince said it was wrong. But he doesn't care for me, so I'm not going to deny myself bootlegs any longer".
I wonder if "PFUnk" might ultimately make bootlegging a bigger problem for Prince that it was before. For the record, I'm against bootlegging, although not as fervently as before. Pretty much the same thoughts. I didn't agree with bootlegging, never bought bootlegs, but now.....hmmm....looking VERY tempting, especially having to give up so much of my personal time dealing with this shit! Ok...now that's bad, I never cuss It's OK, the fog made today's commute harder than usual.  | |
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I don't like bootlegs I would rather have official releases with the best quality audio and finished tracks.
my opinion on that has nothing to do with Prince. | |
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Christopher said: INSATIABLE said: Bootlegging's always going to be wrong. For whatever reason, the little guy doesn't want certain shit released--and I can't imagine the violation and frustration he experiences knowing we've all heard everything from 'Electric Intercourse' to 'Wally'.
wait,when did you hear wally? hook it up.... we can jackie chan it up' in this bitch!  /  I'm sorry Christie, you know I would have passed that shit on if I had it. I was just using 'Wally' as an example for the most elusive boot out there. I think 'EI' was one of the first ones I heard and definitely one of the most freely floating ones.
Alas, no Wally yet on my end.  But if I get it I'll be right on top of that, Rose!Oh shit, my hat done fell off | |
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RodeoSchro said: Imago said: We've established Prince's problem years ago, and I'm disapointed that the mods have not updated the Q&A section of the org.
Prince's sporadic releases of the last 10 years (3 albums in a year, or 2 years between albums depending on his mood), some would argue is the result of him having to balance being both the manager of his trade, the promoter, as well as producer, singer, writer, and musician. It's too many hats, some may prostrate. However, these are not accurate. Prince effortlessly handles all of these things, and it's never been an issue for him. Moreover, he's proven that he can do them and still sell out crowds in London 21 nights in a row, or release an album to #1 like 3121 in its first week. So the issue can NOT be related to his actual business model, as is implied in this thread. The problem is Princes fear of Dehydrogenated monoxide. Call me crazy, but you can see his obsession with the stuff in Purple Rain, The Holy River, When 2 r in Love, Soft and Wet, and the list goes on and on. Dehydrogenated monoxide has been linked to corrosion, rusting, bacterial growth, mold, and all manner of things that plague us. The US government has not admitted it, but it's in our drinking supply, and no matter what you try to do, it can't remove it. Sites claim that if you wash your hands for hours, it will still be on your hands that entire time. For those of you who have been in Paisley park in the last 2 years, you'll notice that the water fountains are filtered, and that toilet paper is handed out only upon request, because it contains traces of dehydrogenated monoxide. This lead to all manner of rumers that Prince does not use toilet paper, but that has never been proven, though one could surmise that if Prince is willing to insulate Paisley Park, and indeed his house from receiving the substance (which comes is found in large doses in droplets of rain in Minneapolis), that it would not be too far a stretch that he's stop using TP. One can search through his lyrics and find references to the stuff, disguised as other "cute" names, but the obsession is there. It's pervasive, and it's ruining his career. That's what I was trying to say. | |
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INSATIABLE said: Christopher said: wait,when did you hear wally? hook it up.... we can jackie chan it up' in this bitch! / I'm sorry Christie, you know I would have passed that shit on if I had it. I was just using 'Wally' as an example for the most elusive boot out there. I think 'EI' was one of the first ones I heard and definitely one of the most freely floating ones.
Alas, no Wally yet on my end. But if I get it I'll be right on top of that, Rose!What about "Hey Hannigan"? Have you heard that? Because I have. | |
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