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Reply #120 posted 11/08/07 12:26pm

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superspaceboy said:

Mindflux said:



Actually, LRC's was a logical, considered and well-written argument (one of the best I've seen - hats off to you LRC) that holds its own and is rationally sound.

What you wrote, spaceboy, is a typical response, one clearly and consistently displayed by the naysayers and haters around here - an abusive snipe with no substance or evidence to back it up. Talkin' loud and sayin' nothin'...


confused Again....my post was NOT about LRC! It was about the one picture response that is on 3121.com.


Yeah, its cool man - you will note my post came before your explanation. It just wasn't clear in your original statement.
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Reply #121 posted 11/08/07 12:28pm

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Mindflux said:

Anxiety said:



and words like "naysayers" and "haters" is NOT typical? let's try to rise above the typical princeyland polarization and pissing battles that always arise in these situations. "blah blah blah purple kool-aid, blah blah blah naysayers will eat toast" - yeah, okay. been there, done that, bought the bootleg and mailed it to ohio. NEXT! lol


Hardly a fair point from you Anxiety! How else am I supposed to indicate the group of people I am talking about, eh? Any suggestions would be welcome. Unfortunately, for such typical types, a typical nomenclature appears to be the only one that suits.

I don't fall in to the polarized categories that you do see here and I was merely commenting on an example of it rearing its head, yet again. I was just highlighting an archetypal comment from one of "those who appear to hold a consistently negative view" without the rational to back it up.
Your retort accuses as though I was an active part in the opposing camps' war, when I'm actually an observer.
[Edited 11/8/07 10:55am]


No you read into my response and like LRC got a whole other meaning by what I wrote.

You don't even know me, yet I am one who has had a "consistantly negative view". Where do you get this from? Sure, I may be miffed right now at P's actions but I don't hate him. But I certainly don't appreciate his actions towards his fans is all. Tired of it actually.

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Reply #122 posted 11/08/07 12:30pm

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Mindflux said:

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i suppose it wouldn't nip a damn thing in the bud if i were to say i DO know superspaceboy personally, and he's as far from an archetypical "naysayer" as i can imagine?

yeah, figured it wouldn't. lol but it's true!

if you feel i've jumped the gun here, that's fine. it's when i see words like "naysayer" and "haters" that i immediately think "oh lawd, here we go again", and it's back to the purple kool aid and the unshipped crystal ball sets all over again. nuts

sorry if i jumped any guns. i have a fever today. i shouldn't be jumping at all. lol


Hehe - of course it would and I'm sure he is smile

As I said, was just using his comment to illustrate a wider point. It was typical of the type of comment I dislike, but didn't mean that the poster fell in to a particular category.

Funny, I am just getting over a fever myself (and timely as well, as flying to India tomorrow - so, er, you guys won't see me around for a while smile ), so no, no jumping at all and I hope you recover soon hug


Again - its all good!! See above smile

Given the context your post appeared to be in, I was using it to illustrate a wider point, not acccusing you of being this or that smile
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Reply #123 posted 11/08/07 12:49pm

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I never said that anybody couldn't express a dissenting opinion here - only that it's hypocritical to do so (given the circumstances).

That is so wrong to say, everyone is entitled to an opinion, we all have friends on these websites and as friends we do not agree all the time but one thing about friendship is that you can respect that persons opinion even if you disagree with them.

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Reply #124 posted 11/08/07 4:36pm

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2elijah said:

etifaim said:



I completely agree with what you're saying here.
And excellent post 2elijah.
It is about the music. What does this other personal stuff really have to do with why we're here (on this site)? When it comes down to it, it's his music that made you join this site in the first place, not who his wife is/was, what his preference of religion is, or any of his other persoanl affairs.

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Exactly, it is sad that it has come to this though, but I'll be d***** if I let anyone stop me from supporting Prince and his music. If you have a site that displays an artists' name and new fans of his search the internet to discuss his music come across this site, then see the insults, personal and derogatory comments, of course they would be shocked.Why have a site with his name if you don't monitor the site and snip/clip the derogatory/defaming comments about him or his personal life but yet snip/clip derogatory insulting comments from members towards other members on this site?

It's a two-way street. They can keep the comments strictly music-related if they choose to use that artist's name, whether it's a fan community on an unofficial site or not. These sites were apparently created to discuss the artist and his music. They all basically have a "Prince and his music section" or "Prince News" section. So that says what? That it would be about Prince, but if you go in some of those particular forums on each of the 3 unofficial Prince sites, you will find all sorts of personal info/inquiries/defaming comments and the list goes on, moreso than you would find about his music..

The man is a music genius, his music has opened doors for many up and coming artists.....and all this "evil" being directed towards him right now from some of these unhappy fans.....well, that too shall pass, as long as he remains strong and follows his beliefs/faith, then evil can't touch him, that's all there is to it..


Just my 2 cents.
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Good points.

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Reply #125 posted 11/08/07 4:58pm

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Mindflux said:

superspaceboy said:

rolleyes Typical responce from the Land of all that is Purple and Holier than thou.


Actually, LRC's was a logical, considered and well-written argument (one of the best I've seen - hats off to you LRC) that holds its own and is rationally sound.


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Reply #126 posted 11/08/07 5:01pm

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etifaim said:

2elijah said:



Exactly, it is sad that it has come to this though, but I'll be d***** if I let anyone stop me from supporting Prince and his music. If you have a site that displays an artists' name and new fans of his search the internet to discuss his music come across this site, then see the insults, personal and derogatory comments, of course they would be shocked.Why have a site with his name if you don't monitor the site and snip/clip the derogatory/defaming comments about him or his personal life but yet snip/clip derogatory insulting comments from members towards other members on this site?

It's a two-way street. They can keep the comments strictly music-related if they choose to use that artist's name, whether it's a fan community on an unofficial site or not. These sites were apparently created to discuss the artist and his music. They all basically have a "Prince and his music section" or "Prince News" section. So that says what? That it would be about Prince, but if you go in some of those particular forums on each of the 3 unofficial Prince sites, you will find all sorts of personal info/inquiries/defaming comments and the list goes on, moreso than you would find about his music..

The man is a music genius, his music has opened doors for many up and coming artists.....and all this "evil" being directed towards him right now from some of these unhappy fans.....well, that too shall pass, as long as he remains strong and follows his beliefs/faith, then evil can't touch him, that's all there is to it..


Just my 2 cents.
[Edited 11/8/07 12:36pm]


Good points.

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Reply #127 posted 11/08/07 5:05pm

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Anxiety said:

Mindflux said:



Actually, LRC's was a logical, considered and well-written argument (one of the best I've seen - hats off to you LRC) that holds its own and is rationally sound.

What you wrote, spaceboy, is a typical response, one clearly and consistently displayed by the naysayers and haters around here - an abusive snipe with no substance or evidence to back it up. Talkin' loud and sayin' nothin'...


and words like "naysayers" and "haters" is NOT typical? let's try to rise above the typical princeyland polarization and pissing battles that always arise in these situations. "blah blah blah purple kool-aid, blah blah blah naysayers will eat toast" - yeah, okay. been there, done that, bought the bootleg and mailed it to ohio. NEXT! lol


I agree Anx. I think that's the one reason everything got blown out of proportion on the site is because it was like everyone was divided and calling each other out because some agreed and some didn't. Actually, it's all the same, just two sides of the same coin, or the same response, just two degrees of the response. If we can't keep it civil between us (the fans), then how can we expect the two sides (PFU and Prince) to keep it civil between them.
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Reply #128 posted 11/08/07 5:06pm

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superspaceboy said:

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lol I'm assuming you are directing that at me. And you know what? I don't support either side in this situation. I think both sides have valid points (if the documentation prooves what the websites are claiming), and I think both sides have made errors. But I don't think that Prince deserves all the flack that he's getting, when the finger points both ways. But some only want to see one side, and often choose to ignore the other. I'm merely pointing out the side that others have refused to look at. The ones that look at only the one side (the websites) do a damn good job of defending themselves and their stance. There just aren't too many that are willing to stand up to the backlash and defend the other side.


Actually, I meant that the Hand was a typical response from Prince.


LOL ~ Sorry superspaceboy. With the way things have been on this site recently, it's easy to jump to conclusions. I apologize for misunderstanding.
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Reply #129 posted 11/08/07 5:08pm

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Lothan said:

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eek What do you mean???
In six hours, this account is done. i was going to delete it on Sunday but then Monday all of this stuff happened and I stayed. I'm not saying I won't return but right now, with the way things are here, this ain't the place for me.

Real life is starting to get good again so I am gonna go enjoy that. biggrin


sad I'm going to miss you on here love. I'm glad that real life is getting good and you are going to enjoy that, but I feel kinda real. Does that count???

((((Ivy)))) Love you beautiful and I hope you know that you will be missed while you are away enjoying life.
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Reply #130 posted 11/08/07 5:11pm

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superspaceboy said:

LittleRedCorvette said:



Perhaps then PFU can send out a statement to that regards. And get that in the media as well so that Prince sees PFU extending the olive branch.


I think what PFU stands for is a statement in and of itself. We have stated our position many times. Maybe it's time for just once in his life extend out the olive branch, however small it may be.


But as I said in earlier posts, Prince has stated his position many many times over the years regarding artist copyrights. I think that in this situation, both sides have valid points and maybe both sides should extend the olive branch.
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Reply #131 posted 11/08/07 5:46pm

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Imago said:

Maybe we're about to get double charged for Crystal Ball 2 excited







I'm still waiting on a copy from Crystal Ball 1 though neutral


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Reply #132 posted 11/08/07 7:54pm

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2elijah said:

etifaim said:



Good points.

Someone's added to my buddy list. wink



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