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Reply #30 posted 11/04/07 3:47pm

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ToraToraDreams said:

Yeah, I guess so. But I still wanna hear it myself. sigh

As you should, if only so that you can form your own opinion. And I would certainly say it's an album worth having in your collection. IMHO: It's a very good, very solid album.
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Reply #31 posted 11/04/07 4:52pm

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Bob George is a masterpiece and TOTALLY laid the blue print down for Gangsta Rap.

I know technically "The Black Album" was recorded first, but I would have given the blue print for Gangsta Rap credit to N.W.A.'s "Straight Outta Compton". And you're right: A credit that neither Prince nor Ice Cube should be fighting over bitchfight .


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Well, by P NOT being a rapper, the images he conjured up in Bob George, the subject matter, the whole 9, showed that P is very street. Also, Eazy E went on the record as saying that he, and the rest of NWA dug Prince earlier shit. So there is no doubt that they were peepin' the Black Album.
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Reply #32 posted 11/05/07 2:01am

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the only bad thing about it is the fact that he disrespected rap and shouted some insecurity by doing it.

then prince had to eat his words a few years later.

well some of the rap was really crap but same with rock'n roll and u dont make songs talking shit about it.

the music is great th0'
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Reply #33 posted 11/05/07 7:23am

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electrorock said:

the only bad thing about it is the fact that he disrespected rap and shouted some insecurity by doing it.

then prince had to eat his words a few years later.

well some of the rap was really crap but same with rock'n roll and u dont make songs talking shit about it.

the music is great th0'

I totally agree. Good point. It wasn't cool that P ran his mouth on knocking rap, the art form on Dead On It but it was even less cooler that he actually ended up trying to do rap because he felt he was slippin' with his style of music. He looked as silly doing that as say Michael would have looked. P wasn't fooling ANYBODY with that shit. It made him look naive as hell. It was stone obvious he truly didn't like rap. To be honest, Bono and U2 would have been more convincing cuz they would have done it in a way that would have still sounded like U2. P coming out with wearing dated ass mid 80's gold around his neck came across like he was making fun of rappers. Which maybe he was. Why even bother to fuck with something that u don't even like?
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Reply #34 posted 11/05/07 8:03am

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blackguitaristz said:

electrorock said:

the only bad thing about it is the fact that he disrespected rap and shouted some insecurity by doing it.

then prince had to eat his words a few years later.

well some of the rap was really crap but same with rock'n roll and u dont make songs talking shit about it.

the music is great th0'

I totally agree. Good point. It wasn't cool that P ran his mouth on knocking rap, the art form on Dead On It but it was even less cooler that he actually ended up trying to do rap because he felt he was slippin' with his style of music. He looked as silly doing that as say Michael would have looked. P wasn't fooling ANYBODY with that shit. It made him look naive as hell. It was stone obvious he truly didn't like rap. To be honest, Bono and U2 would have been more convincing cuz they would have done it in a way that would have still sounded like U2. P coming out with wearing dated ass mid 80's gold around his neck came across like he was making fun of rappers. Which maybe he was. Why even bother to fuck with something that u don't even like?


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Reply #35 posted 11/05/07 8:12am

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KidaDynamite said:

blackguitaristz said:


I totally agree. Good point. It wasn't cool that P ran his mouth on knocking rap, the art form on Dead On It but it was even less cooler that he actually ended up trying to do rap because he felt he was slippin' with his style of music. He looked as silly doing that as say Michael would have looked. P wasn't fooling ANYBODY with that shit. It made him look naive as hell. It was stone obvious he truly didn't like rap. To be honest, Bono and U2 would have been more convincing cuz they would have done it in a way that would have still sounded like U2. P coming out with wearing dated ass mid 80's gold around his neck came across like he was making fun of rappers. Which maybe he was. Why even bother to fuck with something that u don't even like?


When was this?!?!?! confuse

During the 90's when he went though his rapping phase. He used to wear this weird ass looking blue and yellow outfit with some crazy looking gold shit around his neck. He was with Mayte then. May have been during his Come album. That was my reaction to him rapping with Tony M from D&P period.
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Reply #36 posted 11/05/07 10:18am

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Hey, "In My Lifetime" and "Reasonable Doubt" were "DAMN" good albums, buddy! Well, In My Lifetime had some flaws, here and there. But, that's only because of P. Diddy's horrid production over the lot of it. Oh, and "The City Is Mine" sucked, too. I never thought Teddy Riley could stank up a place with his production, but man-o-man was I wrong! Oh, and the 80's looked better than the 70's to me. Most people just say the 70's because of "The Funk". But, really. That was like the only good thing to come out of the 70's because, man-o-man; did those "Blaxploitation Films" suck ass. Well, except for the ones with Pam Grier. But, that's for another time. *Clears Throat*
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Reply #37 posted 11/05/07 10:25am

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the drum solo in 2 nigs united 4 west compton...lawd!
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Reply #38 posted 11/05/07 11:50am

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FuNkeNsteiN said:

weejimmy said:

...quite simply the funkiest shit i ever heard in ma life..n i make no apology 4 brining yo attention tae this blatent fact!

I'm guessing you haven't listened to a whole lot of funk smile


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Reply #39 posted 11/05/07 11:53am

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KidaDynamite said:

I "need" this album soooo bad! hrmph

I need alot of stuff! confused

I need another one I don't know what happened to the one I had and that they didn't have at the rock hall sad
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Reply #40 posted 11/05/07 10:38pm

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electrorock said:

vainandy said:

A disappointment. When many people, including myself, heard the title of this album, "The Black Album", we thought that it was going to be the type of music that Prince made back when he had mostly black fans.

It's a good album but it wasn't what I was expecting. It was the 1980s but Prince was still stuck in the 1970s.


wtf does that have to do anything?


It has to do with answering the question in the thread title "The Black Album is....".
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Reply #41 posted 11/05/07 10:41pm

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electrorock said:

the only bad thing about it is the fact that he disrespected rap and shouted some insecurity by doing it.


That was the absolute best part of the album. That part was like orgasm to my ears. Too bad Prince wasn't strong enough to stick to his guns and continue shitting on it.
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Reply #42 posted 11/05/07 10:46pm

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blackguitaristz said:

electrorock said:

the only bad thing about it is the fact that he disrespected rap and shouted some insecurity by doing it.

then prince had to eat his words a few years later.

well some of the rap was really crap but same with rock'n roll and u dont make songs talking shit about it.

the music is great th0'

I totally agree. Good point. It wasn't cool that P ran his mouth on knocking rap, the art form on Dead On It but it was even less cooler that he actually ended up trying to do rap because he felt he was slippin' with his style of music. He looked as silly doing that as say Michael would have looked. P wasn't fooling ANYBODY with that shit. It made him look naive as hell. It was stone obvious he truly didn't like rap. To be honest, Bono and U2 would have been more convincing cuz they would have done it in a way that would have still sounded like U2. P coming out with wearing dated ass mid 80's gold around his neck came across like he was making fun of rappers. Which maybe he was. Why even bother to fuck with something that u don't even like?


I agree that Prince looked rediculous trying to rap. He lost a huge chunk of his black fan base when he changed his style in 1985, as well as a lot of white fans also. I've read that Prince tried to regain a lot of his black fans in the 1990s by doing rap. However, a lot of his older black fans absolutely hate and despise rap so that wasn't going to bring them back. If he had not changed his style, he wouldn't have to try to regain them as fans. By the time shit hop took over, a lot of R&B fans of all colors just stopped listening to current radio and pulled out their old records.
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Reply #43 posted 11/06/07 9:30pm

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The Black Album was originally recorded sometime between the years 1986 and 1987. It is rumored that Prince tried the drug extacy and had a bad trip. He claims he saw God in a dream and that this "Black Album" was coming from the devil inside him. He claims God told him to destroy the first 1000 or so existing copies before they got shipped. He began work on Lovesexy instead, a bright positive and sexual/religious record. It was the most God praising record he had made up until that point. The master tapes of The Black Album were shelved and released by WB as a contractual obligation in 1994 as a limited edition pressing. I heard most of those songs were recorded as a gift he wanted to give Cat Glover for her birthday. I LOVE The Black Album even if Prince is somewhat ashamed of it now that he's a little more pure and religious. It's such an excitingly fun and naughty little record, it's irresistable! You will be dancing or should I say "doin' the grind" in no time!
The Black Album is fantastic! Prince was never quite as playful on an album afterwards IMO. There are so many sounds on it, it's hard to describe but I'll try...The Black Album is: scary,funky,fun,naughty,taboo,energetic,sexy,sexual,playful,sloppy,messy,joyus,
gleeful,explicit,ambitious,rousing,exuberant,spicy,disturbing, dark,ominous,creepy,menacing,spooky,brassy,jazzy,freakish,deformed,and warped are some of the words that come to my mind when listening to it.
Anyway it's great. If you love anything Prince did from '86 to '88, then The Black Album is an essential addition to your Prince collection! Unfortunately, it has been out of print for a while now hence the "limited edition" sticker on the '94 covers. Good luck trying to find it! It is hard to find a new copy and can be pricy. Happy listening!
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Reply #44 posted 11/06/07 9:37pm

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FuNkeNsteiN said:

vainandy said:

A disappointment. When many people, including myself, heard the title of this album, "The Black Album", we thought that it was going to be the type of music that Prince made back when he had mostly black fans.

It's a good album but it wasn't what I was expecting. It was the 1980s but Prince was still stuck in the 1970s.

Bro... I fucking wish Prince would be stuck in the 70s lol


I haven't listened to the Black Album yet. But I'm going to make a guess upon your statement and say it's basically like the Parade tour funk with horn sections and stuff opposed to his earlier funk work where he used synths?
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Reply #45 posted 11/06/07 11:14pm

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MajesticOne89 said:

FuNkeNsteiN said:


Bro... I fucking wish Prince would be stuck in the 70s lol


I haven't listened to the Black Album yet. But I'm going to make a guess upon your statement and say it's basically like the Parade tour funk with horn sections and stuff opposed to his earlier funk work where he used synths?


Yeah, it's full of horns. I wouldn't exactly compare it to "Parade" though because it doesn't have those orchestras. But, no, there's none of the synths or elements of Prince's earlier music that defined the Minneapolis Sound.
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