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Reply #30 posted 11/03/07 10:07pm

Maia7

In my opinion The Planet Earth cd is a Positive~Feel-Good album and I enjoy it very much so!
Prince has different flavors of music on this cd...
songs 2 dance 2, songs that send out Positive heartfelt messages, Beautiful~soul touching songs (Somewhere Here on Earth biggrin ) Fun-lighthearted songs....I love the Planet Earth cd biggrin
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Reply #31 posted 11/03/07 10:11pm

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or Theology...
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Reply #32 posted 11/03/07 10:12pm

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Or Volta
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Reply #33 posted 11/03/07 10:15pm

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Maia7 said:

In my opinion The Planet Earth cd is a Positive~Feel-Good album and I enjoy it very much so!
Prince has different flavors of music on this cd...
songs 2 dance 2, songs that send out Positive heartfelt messages, Beautiful~soul touching songs (Somewhere Here on Earth biggrin ) Fun-lighthearted songs....I love the Planet Earth cd biggrin
Thank U so much Prince
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Well said, I agree completely.

Listened to it tonight. Didn't enjoy it as much as I could have, but he had me sold a couple of track in cool

Let's just say this is one album that makes me really enjoy his company. cool
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Reply #34 posted 11/03/07 10:19pm

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or Magic.
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Reply #35 posted 11/03/07 11:44pm

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Some people are so musically narrow minded that if the music ain't "funk" it automatically "sucks balls".

Of course some of these people also get bored listening to guitar playing.

I wonder who I could be referring to. hmmm


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Reply #36 posted 11/03/07 11:51pm

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I've heard that as of November of this year, Planet Earth has only sold about 298,000 copies in America, with almost no promotion, with the exception of the Verizon Wireless ad for 'Guitar'. It has sold pretty less than 3121 and Musicology combined. This is a disappointment considering the Future Baby Mama was making much noise of quiet storm radio. What do you all think about this?


Of course it's a flop. Virtually no one outside of this web site cared that it came out or is still talking about it. And stop making excuses for Prince. If his albums receive no promotion, he has no one to blame but himself.
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Reply #37 posted 11/04/07 1:55am

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I really find it hard to see why some fans don't like the album.

To me it sounds like great Prince. There are great melody's, songs with hooks, some great vocals, great guitar playing. It really is a great pop album.
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Reply #38 posted 11/04/07 7:31am

Graycap23

If sales were the goal, why do u think Prince gave away 5,000,000? .....and no advertising or promotion?
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Reply #39 posted 11/04/07 7:46am

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Graycap23 said:

If sales were the goal, why do u think Prince gave away 5,000,000? .....and no advertising or promotion?



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Everyone I know has a copy of this CD and not one of them bought it....how can u measure it's success by its sales?

I think it's a great album and if I had to pay for my free copy(ies) now I would. music
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Reply #40 posted 11/04/07 9:15am

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Romeoblu said:

I really find it hard to see why some fans don't like the album.

To me it sounds like great Prince. There are great melody's, songs with hooks, some great vocals, great guitar playing. It really is a great pop album.


Yeah, I think it was a vast improvement in comparsion to 3121.
Haha, before I gave it a listen, I was praying that it wouldn't be modern sounding like it at all... I didnt like the album very much at the time.

Strangely, its made 3121 sound really good... maybe too good.

But I think the perfect description for this album is "contemporary R&B"
It is a pop album, but in some instances, it surpasses "pop"
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Reply #41 posted 11/04/07 9:29am

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I don't consider it a flop at all. The Prince fans have it so that's all that matters. I don't want the general public getting into him. They might tempt him to do more shit hop.
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Reply #42 posted 11/04/07 9:38am

Graycap23

Some people can't see the forest because of the trees.
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Reply #43 posted 11/04/07 9:38am

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Reply #44 posted 11/04/07 9:40am

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I still don't understand why Prince didnt have that album ready to release around the Super Bowl. He could have included Best oF U/Watchtower and it would have went thru the roof.....or performed Guitar during the show.

Seems like the timing would have been perfect!!!



Loved the performance if only for this cover.
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Reply #45 posted 11/04/07 10:27am

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Graycap23 said:

Some people can't see the forest because of the trees.


Hardly matters, because Planet Earth is obscured by a bunch of bears shitting in the woods.
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Reply #46 posted 11/04/07 10:47am

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Reply #47 posted 11/04/07 10:48am

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it seems to only be a flop to anyone who's

a)agreed with mass complaints about prince half assing it. (to which i say, prove it. aside from "he jacked this part from this artist", i haven't heard anything that really constitutes it as "awful")


b) compares it to previous records as if that's the only way to critique an artists work. i can understand some comparison, but there has to be something outside of "this isn't Sign O the Times. I wanted Sign O the Times again."


c) can't fathom the idea that maybe it wasn't his best effort. for whatever reason, just because it didn't have some mind blowing statistic of sales, or didn't have 0193 music videos/promotion, it's awful. it all boils down to the music, which was pretty decent. and no one said it was his last album.

(sorry for double posting)
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Reply #48 posted 11/04/07 11:49am

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happyhappy said:

it seems to only be a flop to anyone who's

a)agreed with mass complaints about prince half assing it. (to which i say, prove it. aside from "he jacked this part from this artist", i haven't heard anything that really constitutes it as "awful")


b) compares it to previous records as if that's the only way to critique an artists work. i can understand some comparison, but there has to be something outside of "this isn't Sign O the Times. I wanted Sign O the Times again."


c) can't fathom the idea that maybe it wasn't his best effort. for whatever reason, just because it didn't have some mind blowing statistic of sales, or didn't have 0193 music videos/promotion, it's awful. it all boils down to the music, which was pretty decent. and no one said it was his last album.

(sorry for double posting)
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I definitely agree with u and that's why I started this thread because it seems like alot of P fans on this org are just thinking Planet Earth is full of just cookie-cutter, pop junk. I think PE could've been better myself, but it is still a solid release and it shows Prince is just focused only on the music. And even though the sales are disappointing, that doesn't mean it isn't a worthwhile effort.
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Reply #49 posted 11/04/07 11:53am

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silverchild said:



I definitely agree with u and that's why I started this thread because it seems like alot of P fans on this org are just thinking Planet Earth is full of just cookie-cutter, pop junk. I think PE could've been better myself, but it is still a solid release and it shows Prince is just focused only on the music. And even though the sales are disappointing, that doesn't mean it isn't a worthwhile effort.


nod yes, I agree on that.
I'm glad you started the thread for that reason. I was just getting sick of the bad karma around this album.

Sure, it could have been better... I'd like a better ending with a diff. premise... but I hadn't had that much fun with an album on the first listen in a very long time. As far as I'm concerned, it met my expectations (2b better than I thought 3121 was at the time) and it surprised me with a few gems that I'm glad he came up with (Mr. Goodnight 4 one).
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Reply #50 posted 11/04/07 6:04pm

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Sales aside PE is not a good album. SHOE, Guitar are the only good songs imo.
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Reply #51 posted 11/04/07 6:33pm

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Neither. It's definitely not his best, or even in my top ten favorite, but it's better than some of the more filler-based 90s material.
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Reply #52 posted 11/04/07 7:15pm

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Graycap23 said:

Wall said:



And what was that? Make zero impact on the world and even his fan base, save for the helpless disciples? Or did it intend "2" remind the world at large how incredibly blase' his lyric writing and pop sensibilties have become?

As someone else said, sales figures be damned, it's the music on the album that's an absolute flop.

lol.....one man's trash is another man's GOLD.

I HEARD THAT Greatcap. Great feedback lol
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Reply #53 posted 11/04/07 7:19pm

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I don't listen to Planet Earth much anymore. To me the whole album sounds like a lonely middle-aged musician is trying a little too hard to entice his future-baby-mama or future wife.
With lyrics like 'I got a lot of money and I don't want to spend it on me' he certainly has the attention of all the gold diggers, if that's what he's looking for. Since he likes pretty things he is willing to pay for the next pretty thing who chooses to be with him.
The lyrics to 'Mr. Goodnight', 'FBM', and 'the one u wanna c' also sound a little too desperate for my taste.
I don't think it's a bad album, but it's simply not my cup of tea. neutral
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Reply #54 posted 11/04/07 10:23pm

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Graycap23 said:

If sales were the goal, why do u think Prince gave away 5,000,000? .....and no advertising or promotion?


Because no one other than Prince fans would pay for the crap on that album after seeing/hearing the songs from it in promotion. Why advertise something that isn't that good? I sure as hell wouldn't. Prince still got paid from the newspaper--and it's a lot easier to get one person (e.g. a newspaper) to buy a "flop" than get thousands of non- or casual fans to buy a crap cd for $15-$18 instead of download it for free.



Wall said:

Graycap23 said:

Absolutely NOT a flop. It did exactly as it was intended 2 do.


And what was that? Make zero impact on the world and even his fan base, save for the helpless disciples? Or did it intend "2" remind the world at large how incredibly blase' his lyric writing and pop sensibilties have become?

As someone else said, sales figures be damned, it's the music on the album that's an absolute flop.



falloff It's fuckin' hilarious b/c it's true.

I don't think it's a 'commericial' flop because there was any effort to make it a success. (Success meaning a combination of chart numbers, singles released/airplay and general buzz.) If Prince would have *tried* to promote it (other than giving it away in a lame ass UK newspaper) and seen the same results as we have now (e.g. not much airplay, no videos released, non-Prince fans don't even know he released an album this year) then that would constitute a commericial flop.

Personally (and as others have said), I definitely think the album is a musical flop. It is not a good album: the music (instruments only) is nice for about half the songs; but the lyrics are awful and the album overall is entirely forgettable. I haven't listened to it more than 5 times and struggle to even remember what the songs sound like. (And it has no funk.) Planet Earth is definitely not one of Prince's better efforts. I can't wait for the Planet Earth era to be over.


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Reply #55 posted 11/05/07 7:43am

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Graycap23 said:

If sales were the goal, why do u think Prince gave away 5,000,000? .....and no advertising or promotion?


Because no one other than Prince fans would pay for the crap on that album after seeing/hearing the songs from it in promotion. Why advertise something that isn't that good? I sure as hell wouldn't. Prince still got paid from the newspaper--and it's a lot easier to get one person (e.g. a newspaper) to buy a "flop" than get thousands of non- or casual fans to buy a crap cd for $15-$18 instead of download it for free.






U do bring up an angle that I had not thought about. I wonder why Prince did NOT released the orginal version of the cd which was ready in Feb. 07? Good point.
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Reply #56 posted 11/05/07 7:43am

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I think he wants to sell all the songs to commercials... "The 1 U Wanna See" should be in a Ford truck commercial...
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Reply #57 posted 11/05/07 7:48am

Imago

Not a flop.


Prince is part of a wave of artists who seem to be releasing albums to promote tours, rather than the other way around.

Let us not forget he packed 20 shows in London this summer, and distributed the album to millions of folks.


Planet earth is a safe, relatively catchy, non offensive, advertisement of Prince, probably designed to appeal to the broadest age group, cultural distribution, and overall demographic as possible. Not a route most Prince fans would care for him to take, but he took it. I would say it was a commercial success, but not exactly an artistic one. lol
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Reply #58 posted 11/05/07 11:10am

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BeautifulOneJem said:

Sales aside PE is not a good album. SHOE, Guitar are the only good songs imo.


clapping the only saving grace 4 having the album. musicially it's not good and that makes it a flop.
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Reply #59 posted 11/05/07 4:08pm

Thumparello

I'm not really concerned with lp sales as much as the musical content.

Being that the music and lyrics was so horrific for this lp ....the lp in general is a flop in my opinion. Worse lp he's ever made.
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