First!

i think his level of control only works when they're young

Something like that, you probably never get over so in some ways it's not belated. Even if the pain eases with time, there will be reminders, at least annually. I'm sure his spirituality helps most with this. What doesn't, is all the really really dumb comments that pop up on this site from time to time. Those times I hope he never visits the org. I won't dignify these by bringing them up, but there's one in the "Video Prince doesn't want you to see" thread. It's just mean. It makes you wonder about people...

Patrick1985 said:

respectfully, PLEASE express these sorts of comments elsewhere

this thread is not for hating or negativity.
i can't possibly uzi-monitor this creation, but i invite others
to use the uzi or weapon of choice wherever appropriate.

thank you.

Earlier this year I sought out Mayte via myspace for an unrelated request and took the opportunity to tell her how sorry I was for their loss. I shared a tradgedy in my life that struck a chord. She sent a very warm message back to me that let me know she's at peace with it. October is probably a hard month for them both. I think they both have an angel watching over them named Gregory.

ejnbmore said:

i take it, Gregory was their child's name . . .

GoldiLocks said:

Yes it was.

No hate. Just a question.

If a person that you're related to went through similar circumstances, would you want someone bringing the topic up 9 years after the fact just to make themselves feel special by offering belated condolences?

Sometimes the most sympathetic thing to do is to leave the topic alone!

SexyBeautifulOne said:

That's an individual thing and it's based on the person. I have a friend that, if it happened, would appreciate the condolences as I know they would revisit it, that season each year. There are others, that I wouldn't mention it to. In this case, since we don't know Prince, it's best to let people do what comes sincerely... A thread like this, for example, is well intentioned. The random comments that show up from time to time, most pretty harsh...those should be snipped.

anon said:

Close this sucka
[Edited 10/30/07 9:31am]

anon said:

Since we don't know Prince as you pointed out. How do we know that this thread as well intentioned as it may be, isn't an awfully painful reminder of a very tragic experience?

What we do know is that he's been pretty adamant about not discussing it, so do you really think he needs to keep being reminded of it?

In circumstances like this, we should take our cues from the people involved and do what is best for them!

I think I have more sympathy for the loss of their child than the divorce. The true tragedy was the child not having the chance to experience life... But divorce(especially among celebs) is so common its not that big of deal. Its not like Prince will be lonely forever. I'm sure he'll find someone new.

SexyBeautifulOne said:

What he discusses publicly and what he deals with privately are two different things. I wouldn't bring it up with someone that I didn't know, not unless they gave the slightest hint that they needed to be consoled. But I would never stop someone else from doing what they are moved to do...especially something like this.

Anyway, you're assuming that Prince reads these threads. And if he does, my guess is that, yes, it would be painful but also that he deals with that anyway so it just may be a consolation. At least it's contained in one thread that he can pass over...not randomly and foolishly placed in a thread that has nothing to do with it. If anything is hurtful, it's that.

anon said:

Whatever. Personally, I think you just like to disagree for the sake of disagreeing but that's neither here nor there. If y'all want to keep pulling the scab off that wound, have at it. I'm pissed at Prince, anyway! My inherent good nature just got in the way, momentarily.
[Edited 10/30/07 11:03am]

SexyBeautifulOne said:

That post doesn't even make sense. It applies so much more to you...it's as if you didn't even read my post. It doesn't disagree with anything. Just stating my views. Let people do what their heart moves them to do. Prince isn't stupid, he understands when things are good intentioned. He also knows how NOT to click a link. More than likely, he'll never even see it, anyway.

Again, if you feel it's so wrong to bring up this subject, because it's hurtful, there are so many places on the org where your voice will be better served. Like this (#188) .(Don't click it if you don't want to see something dumb and hurtful).

Send that guy an orgnote.

anon said:

I didn't send you an orgnote. That last sentence reads like I did. Just clearing that up for those keeping track. As for post #188 on that link, I already read it and my response to him is #190.

i've been a member of this and NPGMC off & on for a number of years.
i've never seen it discussed DIRECTLY before.
Yes, it is a VERY PRIVATE matter.

we often seem to haggle over the finest minutia ad nauseum,
including some very superficial and trivial matters.

this is a DEEPER TOPIC in AN OPEN FORUM, for anyone who cares to participate.
i just hoped to FIND some sincere support from FAM over this issue, belated as it is . . .
for anyone wanting to get up-close & personal w/sympathy for THOSE losses.

it's not like he's gonna come on here and ask for it, ya know

Anon, thank you for your comments, including your assumption of good intent.
all i can say is i am sincere in this post.
the last thing i seek in this thread is controversy.

finally, i presume he never talked about it cause it was so damned painful.
can't we just say (right now), we love you, Dude;
and gosh we're sorry for the tragedy you went thru.

honestly, i guess it bothers ME that it's rarely, if ever, discussed.
so maybe i NEEDED to get it off of MY chest.
thank you.

SexyBeautifulOne said:

And so you did! At least you're up on your game and your mission.
And it wasn't written like that (to imply that you orgnoted me). It just meant in the context of baby references, that's the one to have a problem with. Usually I'm like you. When I see the those threads I pass over them. I don't know why people bring it up. But perhaps Goldilocks was moved because of the season. I don't know. Also, the nature of this one was different.

I recently heard a story of a person that experienced random kindness/consideration. It changed their life. Turns out that, that act came on the day they were contemplating suicide. They lived to tell the story. I'm sure there are many stories like that. So all I'm saying is let people do the things like these, even if you wouldn't.
If there's a God, maybe he uses people as tools that way. I don't know, so I don't want to second guess those kinds of things, especially when I only know what I know...and that's not so much.

GoldiLocks said:

u know i feel exactly the same as u. I wonder about it of and on through the years. It really bothers me bcuz he waited so long 2 have a baby and he was really ready 4 it and then -nothing. i cry about it when i think on it b cuz it seems so so so unfair.i have 4 kids and i can only imagine what it feels like 2 lose 1 -so young 2.by the way look at the emancipation cd back inside cover at the bottom and tell me what it looks like 2 u.

1kelle said:

OMG - it looks like a scan of a baby.

Is this topic really something that should be discussed here? Then we wonder why Prince has done some of his latest actions because of topics like this. The man and Mayte' do have feelings.

I've been pregnant 3 times but I only have 2 children, so that tells you what? That one didn't make it and as a woman who has experienced first hand the loss of an eagerly anticipated child's arrival, I can say that it's something I'd rather not be reminded of, no matter how sincere and heartfelt the sentiment! Especially after I've worked so hard to put that tragedy behind me.

As pissed as I am at Prince right now, I wouldn't rip off that scab off for any reason! To me, even mentioning it is a reminder. To me, it's just wrong! If he's not now and has never discussed it publicly that tells me, he doesn't want to!

Perhaps not acknowledging it and moving on, is the only way he can find the strength to get out of bed in the morning and who the hell are we to take that from him because we want to say..."Sorry"

Is "sorry" going to give him back his family? Or is it going to remind him of what could have been?

SexyBeautifulOne said:

I agree-people need to stop bringing this topic up. It's just not right.

I also agree that it certainly isn't something which should be discussed on a forum such as this in any detail but in defence of the person who started the thread, he/she did not mean it to be malicious or hurtful to Prince and any hurtful reminders to anybody else were certainly not intentional.

Cinderella was a waste of time, then Oops she's out the door!

GoldiLocks said:

Not trying to be rude or mean here but:
Aren't you forgetting one thing?
Its a open message board(sorry your not a moderator), you CANT tell posters to NOT post negative things on this board.

Another poster mentioned that they noticed you mentioning this 9 YEARS after the fact. WHY??? Are you trying to seek attention for something?(There is a general discussion section for that and you can post ANYTHING your heart desires)

Im a mother myself and sorry for the loss of his child but expressing condolences 9 years after the fact is a bit over the top.

i at least got it off my chest.
i figure if peeps can talk mo' shit than a bic (how does that lyric go?),
then i have the freedom to post this.

if you don't dig it, then why don't cha move on.
if this thread needs to be censored or locked, it will be in no time flat, i'm sure.
that's what the MODS are for.


you "gotta feel it to heal it," i heard.
maybe this is about MORE than Prince.
this is the ORG, a FAM of independent COMMUNITY individuals.
my point, at THIS moment is: WE suffered this tragedy ALONGSIDE him.

if it offends YOU for this to be spoken outloud, too bad.
if YOU think it's in bad taste, you are entitled to your opinion, but it doesn't help this thread any.
it just turns this thread into a critical, stupid debate.


a more constructive approach for ya might be:
starting your own darned thread called "threads in poor taste."
i wanna say grow up.

if that Cinderella comment was directed at me, then you assume i am female.
if you KNEW i were male,
would you be so quick to make light of this, i wonder

this thread is ANYTHING but funny