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Thread started 10/25/07 8:32am

GottaLetitgo

Is Planet Earth dead?

From a promotion standpoint, does everyone believe that PE has run its course? I know the video for "Somewhere Here on Earth" was filmed but it doesn't look like anyone in Urban AC has added it. Also, my dream of seeing "The 1 U Wanna C" make even a small splash on any format appears to be unlikely. Would a few Grammy noms spark life into this bad boy or is "Planet Earth" over?
All good things they say never last...
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Reply #1 posted 10/25/07 8:38am

wlcm2thdwn

Not in my book.
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Reply #2 posted 10/25/07 8:47am

GottaLetitgo

wlcm2thdwn said:

Not in my book.


And before this turns into one of "those" threads (like my apparent controversial and now locked "Does Prince Have ADD" thread) I don't mean artistically. Those that love PE will continue to bump it for years to come, just as some still bump "The Rainbow Children" or (God knows why) "Chaos and Disorder". I am talking strictly from a marketing standpoint, which I realize only matters to some of us fans and not to all. Is Prince going to do anything else with this project I wonder or has he completely moved on?
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Reply #3 posted 10/25/07 9:00am

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Well videos are filmed, but aren't they always.

Prince clearly doesn't have any interest in playing the game the same way, say, Madonna does - where the promo is like a military operation - this chat show, that TV performance, those award shows, this single, that video, that single, this video, live show, TV broadcast of live show, live DVD, etc, etc, etc.

Prince just isn't playing by the same rules. We can see it as a wasted opportunity (we don't get those videos, TV performances, remixes, etc) -- But honestly, I kind of don't really mind -- Seems like Prince has always done things on his terms and rarely made the best of what he's had to offer in terms of promotion and marketing, right back to the 80s where albums weren't pushed with the right singles, or given room to fully achieve their commercial potential - It's Prince's way. smile
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Reply #4 posted 10/25/07 9:10am

GottaLetitgo

NouveauDance said:

Well videos are filmed, but aren't they always.


If you strung all the video tape out from all the videos that Prince has filmed and never released how many times would it circle the Earth?
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Reply #5 posted 10/25/07 9:14am

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NouveauDance said:

Well videos are filmed, but aren't they always.

Prince clearly doesn't have any interest in playing the game the same way, say, Madonna does - where the promo is like a military operation - this chat show, that TV performance, those award shows, this single, that video, that single, this video, live show, TV broadcast of live show, live DVD, etc, etc, etc.

Prince just isn't playing by the same rules. We can see it as a wasted opportunity (we don't get those videos, TV performances, remixes, etc) -- But honestly, I kind of don't really mind -- Seems like Prince has always done things on his terms and rarely made the best of what he's had to offer in terms of promotion and marketing, right back to the 80s where albums weren't pushed with the right singles, or given room to fully achieve their commercial potential - It's Prince's way. smile


I agree with you.

Planet Earth is not dead to me...I love the album and can and will play it anytime I want. In the end it's the music that matters and I am greateful I have a copy!

Would I love to see Prince do his thing on TV, watch and buy new videos/dvd's??? Heck YES! But I am happy that he still releases new and incredible music almost every year!

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Reply #6 posted 10/25/07 9:18am

RodeoSchro

It looks like Prince is done promoting it.

Actually, I think it's the other way around. Planet Earth is done promoting Prince's concerts. I think the business model these days for artists like Prince drives them to touring to make the big $$$.

CD releases are merely devices meant to pique interest and get you to the show.
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Reply #7 posted 10/25/07 9:21am

Genesia

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Prince isn't interested in selling records...he's interested in making them. (What interview was it where he said he's never "sold" a record in his life?)

If PE is dead for him (in the respect that he's moved on to something else), I'm content to let it be dead on my part. shrug
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Reply #8 posted 10/25/07 9:29am

KidaDynamite

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Genesia said:

Prince isn't interested in selling records...he's interested in making them. (What interview was it where he said he's never "sold" a record in his life?)

If PE is dead for him (in the respect that he's moved on to something else), I'm content to let it be dead on my part. shrug


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Reply #9 posted 10/25/07 9:56am

babooshleeky

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Who cares.....I like it biggrin
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Reply #10 posted 10/25/07 10:05am

XxAxX

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i think prince has moved on and is now promoting 'Planet Zorgon'

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Reply #11 posted 10/25/07 10:06am

superspaceboy

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I think the only promotion P was going to do was

Offer it in the paper
Do the Verizon thing
Do the Perfume Launch/7-7-07
21 Nights in London

that's it. there will be a fasion line yawn launch on Sunday.

IMO, I wasn't expecting any videos or singles...let alone anything extended.

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Reply #12 posted 10/25/07 10:08am

superspaceboy

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GottaLetitgo said:

NouveauDance said:

Well videos are filmed, but aren't they always.


If you strung all the video tape out from all the videos that Prince has filmed and never released how many times would it circle the Earth?


about 7 times.

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Reply #13 posted 10/25/07 10:10am

purplecam

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superspaceboy said:

I think the only promotion P was going to do was

Offer it in the paper
Do the Verizon thing
Do the Perfume Launch/7-7-07
21 Nights in London

that's it. there will be a fasion line yawn launch on Sunday.

IMO, I wasn't expecting any videos or singles...let alone anything extended.

that was indeed the promotion. anything else at this point is extra.
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #14 posted 10/25/07 10:14am

GottaLetitgo

So are you all saying there is no chance that he'll release a maxi-single of the title track with a pseudo-political, yet slightly naughty remix version called "George W. the Planet Grinder".

Damn. sad
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Reply #15 posted 10/25/07 10:15am

purplecam

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GottaLetitgo said:

So are you all saying there is no chance that he'll release a maxi-single of the title track with a pseudo-political, yet slightly naughty remix version called "George W. the Planet Grinder".

Damn. sad

Maybe that'll come out in 2008! lol
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Reply #16 posted 10/25/07 10:22am

IstenSzek

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superspaceboy said:

I think the only promotion P was going to do was

Offer it in the paper
Do the Verizon thing
Do the Perfume Launch/7-7-07
21 Nights in London

that's it. there will be a fasion line yawn launch on Sunday.

IMO, I wasn't expecting any videos or singles...let alone anything extended.


yup. i was surprised he made such an official looking video for Guitar
but that was probably just cuz it was going to be promoted on verizon.

if anything, prince does a lot of hyping for his albums since 1999 and
in a matter of weeks loses interest once the album is released.

the 3121 theme stuck around for a while tho

i wasn't expecting anything wild or longlasting to be running for this
album.

it would have been nice if he'd fleshed out the package a bit more and
to be honest (altho i hate those) i would love to see an extended P.E.
in stores around x-mas with decent artwork and lyrics and a couple of
xtra tracks.

anyways, whatever he does it would be cool if he'd continue the albums
experience (for any release) on his website with remixes, extended and
acoustic versions of "single" tracks.

kinda like with the acoustic "Love" being on 3121. he could make some
extra $ if he'd release something like a "Love" EP with the acoustic,
an extended and a remix etc. perhaps even a b-side or something.

he had a good thing going there for a while with his internet store.
i think it's a shame that's gone now and i'm still hoping he will be
bringing it back in some form soon.
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #17 posted 10/25/07 10:30am

Imago

IstenSzek said:

superspaceboy said:

I think the only promotion P was going to do was

Offer it in the paper
Do the Verizon thing
Do the Perfume Launch/7-7-07
21 Nights in London

that's it. there will be a fasion line yawn launch on Sunday.

IMO, I wasn't expecting any videos or singles...let alone anything extended.


yup. i was surprised he made such an official looking video for Guitar
but that was probably just cuz it was going to be promoted on verizon.

if anything, prince does a lot of hyping for his albums since 1999 and
in a matter of weeks loses interest once the album is released.

the 3121 theme stuck around for a while tho

i wasn't expecting anything wild or longlasting to be running for this
album.

it would have been nice if he'd fleshed out the package a bit more and
to be honest (altho i hate those) i would love to see an extended P.E.
in stores around x-mas with decent artwork and lyrics and a couple of
xtra tracks.

anyways, whatever he does it would be cool if he'd continue the albums
experience (for any release) on his website with remixes, extended and
acoustic versions of "single" tracks.

kinda like with the acoustic "Love" being on 3121. he could make some
extra $ if he'd release something like a "Love" EP with the acoustic,
an extended and a remix etc. perhaps even a b-side or something.

he had a good thing going there for a while with his internet store.
i think it's a shame that's gone now and i'm still hoping he will be
bringing it back in some form soon.



I actually thought that his promotion of 3121 was almost non existent during certain months.

I think Anx even posted a thread titled "Is Prince aware that he has a new album out?" lol


Of course he did 20 shows in London straight off, and that's got to be grueling for the schedule.

I'd like to think he's in the studio working on something new as his primary objective now lol
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Reply #18 posted 10/25/07 10:32am

pplrain

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Love "Somewhere here on earth" heart
[Edited 10/25/07 10:35am]
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Reply #19 posted 10/25/07 10:41am

IstenSzek

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Imago said:

IstenSzek said:



yup. i was surprised he made such an official looking video for Guitar
but that was probably just cuz it was going to be promoted on verizon.

if anything, prince does a lot of hyping for his albums since 1999 and
in a matter of weeks loses interest once the album is released.

the 3121 theme stuck around for a while tho

i wasn't expecting anything wild or longlasting to be running for this
album.

it would have been nice if he'd fleshed out the package a bit more and
to be honest (altho i hate those) i would love to see an extended P.E.
in stores around x-mas with decent artwork and lyrics and a couple of
xtra tracks.

anyways, whatever he does it would be cool if he'd continue the albums
experience (for any release) on his website with remixes, extended and
acoustic versions of "single" tracks.

kinda like with the acoustic "Love" being on 3121. he could make some
extra $ if he'd release something like a "Love" EP with the acoustic,
an extended and a remix etc. perhaps even a b-side or something.

he had a good thing going there for a while with his internet store.
i think it's a shame that's gone now and i'm still hoping he will be
bringing it back in some form soon.



I actually thought that his promotion of 3121 was almost non existent during certain months.

I think Anx even posted a thread titled "Is Prince aware that he has a new album out?" lol


Of course he did 20 shows in London straight off, and that's got to be grueling for the schedule.

I'd like to think he's in the studio working on something new as his primary objective now
lol


lol, me too. for a while there i forgot about his new album as well.
it's not like it's an insanely genious piece of art, now is it lol..

it almost feels like an album he quickly threw together from stuff
he had lying around just to cement his new fancy of distributing a
new album in yet another unconventional way.

i went out last week to finally pick up an actual cd of planet earth
and to my surprise i couldn't find it in any of the big retailchains

falloff
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #20 posted 10/25/07 12:14pm

superspaceboy

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GottaLetitgo said:

So are you all saying there is no chance that he'll release a maxi-single of the title track with a pseudo-political, yet slightly naughty remix version called "George W. the Planet Grinder".

Damn. sad


Seeing as he hasn't released a remix of any song since Rave, I'd say that's a good guess.

Christian Zombie Vampires

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Reply #21 posted 10/25/07 12:21pm

superspaceboy

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IstenSzek said:

superspaceboy said:

I think the only promotion P was going to do was

Offer it in the paper
Do the Verizon thing
Do the Perfume Launch/7-7-07
21 Nights in London

that's it. there will be a fasion line yawn launch on Sunday.

IMO, I wasn't expecting any videos or singles...let alone anything extended.


yup. i was surprised he made such an official looking video for Guitar
but that was probably just cuz it was going to be promoted on verizon.

if anything, prince does a lot of hyping for his albums since 1999 and
in a matter of weeks loses interest once the album is released.

the 3121 theme stuck around for a while tho

i wasn't expecting anything wild or longlasting to be running for this
album.

it would have been nice if he'd fleshed out the package a bit more and
to be honest (altho i hate those) i would love to see an extended P.E.
in stores around x-mas with decent artwork and lyrics and a couple of
xtra tracks.

anyways, whatever he does it would be cool if he'd continue the albums
experience (for any release) on his website with remixes, extended and
acoustic versions of "single" tracks.

kinda like with the acoustic "Love" being on 3121. he could make some
extra $ if he'd release something like a "Love" EP with the acoustic,
an extended and a remix etc. perhaps even a b-side or something.

he had a good thing going there for a while with his internet store.
i think it's a shame that's gone now and i'm still hoping he will be
bringing it back in some form soon.


I think 3121 stuck around a bit because there was sort of a "Concept" behind it as well as Columbia gunning for promotion.

I wouldn't hold your breath for any spec ed of PE. As I said in my post above the last time he did anything really special was for Rave. Oh and a couple of Picture Discs for Black Sweat and Fury.

His videos have been just that videos. Nothing special except for Te AMo COrozon. The rest have been performance/stage videos.

I kinda agree with Nouveau, Prince simply isn't interested in doing regular promotion even though it would make him more money (which he seems to love). I do hope that the download store comes back up. I did like getting music through that forum.

Christian Zombie Vampires

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Reply #22 posted 10/25/07 12:23pm

superspaceboy

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IstenSzek said:

Imago said:




I actually thought that his promotion of 3121 was almost non existent during certain months.

I think Anx even posted a thread titled "Is Prince aware that he has a new album out?" lol


Of course he did 20 shows in London straight off, and that's got to be grueling for the schedule.

I'd like to think he's in the studio working on something new as his primary objective now
lol


lol, me too. for a while there i forgot about his new album as well.
it's not like it's an insanely genious piece of art, now is it lol..

it almost feels like an album he quickly threw together from stuff
he had lying around just to cement his new fancy of distributing a
new album in yet another unconventional way.

i went out last week to finally pick up an actual cd of planet earth
and to my surprise i couldn't find it in any of the big retailchains

falloff


really? I've seen it around. Though I'm in the states.

Christian Zombie Vampires

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Reply #23 posted 10/25/07 1:32pm

petski

Its not over till the fat lady sings !

Errm yep, its fizzled out like a sly girlie fart.

What was it called again ?
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Reply #24 posted 10/25/07 2:23pm

Tame

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I'll play "Planet Earth" through the years, like the rest of Prince music.
"The Lion Sleeps Tonight...
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Reply #25 posted 10/25/07 3:40pm

Riverpoet31

Alltough i consider "Planet Earth" as a decent Prince album (not great, not bad either) i more and more get the idea he did just released it just to let the people know he is still 'alive', and still making music.

As if he needed to release the album to keep some 'continuity' in his career AND to promote the concerts in London. And to make some money from his deal with the newspaper and the concerts of course wink

The strange thing is in the past i mostly had the feeling Prince did wanted to score commercially with an album (Prince, Purple Rain, Diamonds and Pearls) or explore his artistic horizons (ATWIAD, Parade, Lovesexy) or both (Symbol).

But with this album it almost seems like he feels fine with the modest sales. He is not pushing it like some creative effort to be proud of, or something.
He also doesnt seem to force himself to make it a megaseller.

Its all a bit lacklustre.
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Reply #26 posted 10/25/07 3:52pm

prime

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I remember back in the day Prince would release a song to radio and a video to MTV. Then the following Tuesday release a single. The tuesday after that there would be a maxi-single and the third tuesday the CD would come out. There would be a performance on Arsenio or MTV awards...When he wants a CD to be "HOT" he promotes it. He really hasn't had a CD on fire since D&P but he pumped Emancipation (single problems and expensive) and Musicology. They didn't sell great on their own but P did what he could. I can always tell how a CD is going to do or how long it is going to be around because Prince really wan't pumpin' PE...He pumped his perfume but not the CD. 3121 did alright but he really didn't pump that CD...it sold good based off the Musicology hype (tour, RRHOF, good CD etc.).
Prime aka The Kid

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I need u to shake Ur lil' ass n hips
I need u to grind like Ur working for tips
And give me what I need while we listen to PRINCE"
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Reply #27 posted 10/25/07 3:52pm

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Other than the video/single for Guitar there really hasn't been any promo for the album has there?

Maybe if Prince was in the US for it's release, it might've got a bit more of a push there - but seeing as he was in the UK following it's release, and the album wasn't in stores here, there wasn't much promotion to be done!
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Reply #28 posted 10/25/07 4:09pm

TANKAEFC

I stopped listening to it, but it's not dead. I'll probably put the tunes on my iPod now and then. And with the vids that's he's directing, maybe it'll have a resurgence. But I don't think that even Prince had it in mind that this would be a lasting album. I don't think he makes albums that way.
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Reply #29 posted 10/25/07 4:26pm

ReginaCarman

i think Planet Earth is an Awesome Album. So, i have a question and i ask it respectfully. What would u have done differently and i direct this question to those of u who say its decent or criticize it unfairly, in my opinion. i think its a collection of Brilliant and Awesome Musical Compostitons, with lyrics that evoke intelligent thought. It' could not have been played in a different chord or time. It's Awesome the way it is. And the Lyrics tell us something. i am always Listening to Prince because he is intelligent and composes intelligent music and always has something important to say. i wouldn't change a thing! smile
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