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3121 meaning in oct watchtower

I found some interesting clues to the possible meaning of 3121 in the october watchtower. In the article "Jehovah's Word is Alive Highlights from the
Book of Joel and Amos" It says "Scriptural questions answered: 1:15;2:1,11,31;3:14 What is the day of Jehovah?", and basically talks about how the end of the world is near. The numbers 3121 are in that sequence and probably more clear in the scriptures itself. In the song 3121 - "were gonna party like there ain't gonna be another one". Does anyone know anything about the scriptures - or can look up 31;21? I apologize in a advance if the meaning of 3121 is already common knowledge - but I haven't seen it anywhere!
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Reply #1 posted 10/14/07 5:56am

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dang!

it was his address for his house!-chill on that numerical shhhh

the house that basketballers wants to kick his little ass over for fuckin up his shit!!

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Reply #2 posted 10/14/07 6:33am

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Ohhhhh...so basically...he just remade 1999! omg

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Reply #3 posted 10/14/07 7:32am

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lol u never kno i mean we all know how eccentric prince is
that might b a hidden reason that we dnt kno about prince has alot of those

all n all it might mean that jus becuz wat we think is near in time doesnt mean its the same as god's time
my reverend has always preached that God has a different time that we do so wat may b years to us could only b a day to God im jus sayin

but im glad u took sum time to look it up
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Reply #4 posted 10/14/07 7:38am

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jonylawson said:

dang!

it was his address for his house!-chill on that numerical shhhh

the house that basketballers wants to kick his little ass over for fuckin up his shit!!lol


And it is the address for Carrie and Doug Heffernan's house (Rego Park, Queens, New York) in the comedy series "The King Of Queens"... lol

But there were threads on "3121" ("thirty-one, twenty-one") here, for example:

http://prince.org/msg/7/173951 (Jan. 2006)
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Reply #5 posted 10/14/07 7:49am

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Thanks for that link. I'd also be interested in quotes from the scriptures Joel and AMos 31;21. And didn't P say he was taking a break to study the scriptures? I'm not a JW, but it's fascinating to try to figure P out and see where he's coming from!
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Reply #6 posted 10/14/07 9:23am

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You will NEVER figure Prince out, it's been tried before.
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Reply #7 posted 10/14/07 9:48am

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True, but it sure is fun to try! biggrin
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Reply #8 posted 10/14/07 9:58am

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3121 = 7

4 21 days only = 7
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Reply #9 posted 10/14/07 10:04am

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What is the significance of 7?
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Reply #10 posted 10/14/07 10:15am

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Stop trying to figure 3121 out and just get yourself right for when that day comes wink Whether it be Prince's way or your own way just as long as you are ready.
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I'm not convinced the world will end by locusts and cockroaches and only the JW's will be saved by it all! Not saying I know what will happen, but not convinced all the same! In the meantime, I'll be enjoying my Prince music while I wait!
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Reply #13 posted 10/14/07 10:31am

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BTW - Nurse, thanks for the great pix. Where did u get them?
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Reply #14 posted 10/14/07 12:02pm

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I need an October Watchtower. wink
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Reply #15 posted 10/14/07 12:49pm

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Guess I'm lucky....the local JW's leave one at my door every saturday!
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Reply #16 posted 10/14/07 6:00pm

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I'm not convinced the world will end by locusts and cockroaches and only the JW's will be saved by it all! Not saying I know what will happen, but not convinced all the same! In the meantime, I'll be enjoying my Prince music while I wait!


Now that is something to look forward too. lol Sounds like something out of a horror movie.
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Reply #17 posted 10/14/07 9:12pm

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Reply #18 posted 10/14/07 11:38pm

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nurse said:

Stop trying to figure 3121 out and just get yourself right for when that day comes wink Whether it be Prince's way or your own way just as long as you are ready.

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Reply #19 posted 10/15/07 9:43am

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leopardboots said:

I'm not convinced the world will end by locusts and cockroaches and only the JW's will be saved by it all! Not saying I know what will happen, but not convinced all the same! In the meantime, I'll be enjoying my Prince music while I wait!



Its not only JWs that will be saved but all good souls, I'm not a JW and dont believe in the faith but my friend who goes to Bible Study said that its not just JWs who they believe are good souls.
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Reply #20 posted 10/15/07 9:51am

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What is the significance of 7?



the 7 tribes of israel

i already looked up different references in revelations and i still cant see a direct eason for 3121 and i thik its odd he still hasnt clarified that one, if it was religious ud think hed make that clear as he loves to say things lke jehover bless u etc at the end of gigs

although i had come to the conclusion that it is 7 as his preocupation with revelations has been goin on since 1999 maybe before if anyone knows of anysongs prior to that.


im not religious but was brought up evangelical so did loads of bible reading and I have to say some of Princes religious inspired work is very clever le the song 7, read revelations and u will understand the accuracys of that song, very clever wordsmithing!!
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Reply #21 posted 10/15/07 9:55am

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I found some interesting clues to the possible meaning of 3121 in the october watchtower. In the article "Jehovah's Word is Alive Highlights from the
Book of Joel and Amos" It says "Scriptural questions answered: 1:15;2:1,11,31;3:14 What is the day of Jehovah?", and basically talks about how the end of the world is near. The numbers 3121 are in that sequence and probably more clear in the scriptures itself. In the song 3121 - "were gonna party like there ain't gonna be another one". Does anyone know anything about the scriptures - or can look up 31;21? I apologize in a advance if the meaning of 3121 is already common knowledge - but I haven't seen it anywhere!



actually thinkin about it - how did u get ur hands on watchtower or did u lie in wait for the knock knock on ur door? bet they were so surprised when u said yes please dO give me a copy! theres gonna be whole bunch of extra keen people wavin outa windows at the JWs yellin "please knock on my door INEEDACOPYOFWATCHTOWER!!!"
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aymiderham said:

leopardboots said:

I'm not convinced the world will end by locusts and cockroaches and only the JW's will be saved by it all! Not saying I know what will happen, but not convinced all the same! In the meantime, I'll be enjoying my Prince music while I wait!



Its not only JWs that will be saved but all good souls, I'm not a JW and dont believe in the faith but my friend who goes to Bible Study said that its not just JWs who they believe are good souls.


Unless they have changed their interpretation (and they do this frequently - normally when one of their many predictions does not come to pass), their original belief was that there are a chosen 144,000 who will be "saved" at the time of the Apocalypse. And, certainly when I had passive involvement some years ago, if you weren't a Witness, you were NOT getting saved.

Its all bunkum, of course wink

To lepoardboots - sorry, but you haven't found any "interesting clues" as to the meaning of 3121! What you have found are that the digits 3, 1, 2, and 1 appear in another sequence of numbers and not even in the correct order, or as whole numbers - its not even a tenuous link! You can do this with pretty much ANYTHING you look at, just go to your local store.

As mentioned previously, 3121 is nothing more than the number of Prince's new house, where there was also a studio where some of the recording was done. Its a funk party number, inviting you to a party at Prince's house, 3121 Whatever Street wink That's it!
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Reply #23 posted 10/15/07 10:17am

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aymiderham said:




Its not only JWs that will be saved but all good souls, I'm not a JW and dont believe in the faith but my friend who goes to Bible Study said that its not just JWs who they believe are good souls.


Unless they have changed their interpretation (and they do this frequently - normally when one of their many predictions does not come to pass), their original belief was that there are a chosen 144,000 who will be "saved" at the time of the Apocalypse. And, certainly when I had passive involvement some years ago, if you weren't a Witness, you were NOT getting saved.

Its all bunkum, of course wink

To lepoardboots - sorry, but you haven't found any "interesting clues" as to the meaning of 3121! What you have found are that the digits 3, 1, 2, and 1 appear in another sequence of numbers and not even in the correct order, or as whole numbers - its not even a tenuous link! You can do this with pretty much ANYTHING you look at, just go to your local store.

As mentioned previously, 3121 is nothing more than the number of Prince's new house, where there was also a studio where some of the recording was done. Its a funk party number, inviting you to a party at Prince's house, 3121 Whatever Street wink That's it!



i do think the song quite clearly says that but what i dont get are the chocolate handles, glasses designed to stop u drinking, it is possible its a vision of hell evrywhere u look another turnon ...or perhaps to him as JW its utopia.

and his current turnons are musicians dancers artists etc but having said all of that planet earth sounds to me a bit more like the man that used to be before the whole jw thing, maybe hes a little less zealous now? and mr goodnight seems to be more about performing on stage than in the bedroom like prince of old. the lyrics seem to imply funkin the night away, ie after mike philly the main attraction and i bet the two dresses are for the twinz.

also i thought 3121 was discussed ages ago and it was agreed thats definately not his house no?
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syble said:

Mindflux said:



Unless they have changed their interpretation (and they do this frequently - normally when one of their many predictions does not come to pass), their original belief was that there are a chosen 144,000 who will be "saved" at the time of the Apocalypse. And, certainly when I had passive involvement some years ago, if you weren't a Witness, you were NOT getting saved.

Its all bunkum, of course wink

To lepoardboots - sorry, but you haven't found any "interesting clues" as to the meaning of 3121! What you have found are that the digits 3, 1, 2, and 1 appear in another sequence of numbers and not even in the correct order, or as whole numbers - its not even a tenuous link! You can do this with pretty much ANYTHING you look at, just go to your local store.

As mentioned previously, 3121 is nothing more than the number of Prince's new house, where there was also a studio where some of the recording was done. Its a funk party number, inviting you to a party at Prince's house, 3121 Whatever Street wink That's it!



i do think the song quite clearly says that but what i dont get are the chocolate handles, glasses designed to stop u drinking, it is possible its a vision of hell evrywhere u look another turnon ...or perhaps to him as JW its utopia.

and his current turnons are musicians dancers artists etc but having said all of that planet earth sounds to me a bit more like the man that used to be before the whole jw thing, maybe hes a little less zealous now? and mr goodnight seems to be more about performing on stage than in the bedroom like prince of old. the lyrics seem to imply funkin the night away, ie after mike philly the main attraction and i bet the two dresses are for the twinz.

also i thought 3121 was discussed ages ago and it was agreed thats definately not his house no?


For sure, it doesn't have to literally be his house number, its more like a name. So, when he says come to 3121, its like calling it a club night or whatver. Some of the record was recorded in this new pad and photos of it are all over the 3121 album. So, when he says 3121, I believe he is referring to his new residence, but not necessarily giving you the address (would be kind of like giving you his phone number, no?!)
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[quote]To lepoardboots - sorry, but you haven't found any "interesting clues" as to the meaning of 3121! What you have found are that the digits 3, 1, 2, and 1 appear in another sequence of numbers and not even in the correct order, or as whole numbers - its not even a tenuous link! You can do this with pretty much ANYTHING you look at

I know the numbers are not all whole or in the correct order...just wondering if someone could look it up in the scriptures. look up 31 and 21 in the book of joel and amos - I don't have a bible. just see if they are related somehow. I think ur underestimating prince if you think that number is just his party house!
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Reply #26 posted 10/15/07 4:40pm

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leopardboots said:[quote]
To lepoardboots - sorry, but you haven't found any "interesting clues" as to the meaning of 3121! What you have found are that the digits 3, 1, 2, and 1 appear in another sequence of numbers and not even in the correct order, or as whole numbers - its not even a tenuous link! You can do this with pretty much ANYTHING you look at

I know the numbers are not all whole or in the correct order...just wondering if someone could look it up in the scriptures. look up 31 and 21 in the book of joel and amos - I don't have a bible. just see if they are related somehow. I think ur underestimating prince if you think that number is just his party house!


Nope - not underestimating at all. There are a multitude of examples where Prince songs have a "deeper" meaning or are deliberately written to infer more than one meaning, but that just isn't there in this track. The only thing in this song that anyone can reach for hidden meaning is the number 3121 - but nothing else in the song suggests that there should be a deeper meaning, as everything else, lyrically, is so straight-forward. (he does sometimes do straight-up party tunes you know? You'll be telling me that "We Get's Up" is actually a metaphor for the Ascension next!! lol )

BTW - you have the internet, why not look for yourself, huh?
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Reply #27 posted 10/16/07 12:07am

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Prince did say recently that he was inspired by the prophets.

So possibly we'll be hearing more about this. smile

There was already quite a bit on Planet Earth.

I like the prophets too.
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Reply #28 posted 10/16/07 3:53am

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His house was never actually 3121 !!

Not sure about this Joel and Amos business. I don't understand the first post !
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Reply #29 posted 10/16/07 8:22am

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I could be very wrong but I still think it's Romans 13:12 just the numbers were transposed.

Romans 13:12 states: "The night is well along; the day has drawn near. Let us therefore put off the works belonging to darkness and let us put on the weapons of the light."

It's like coming out of a spiritual darkness into the spiritual light, not with literal weapons but with a strong sense of faith. Like a change in ones heart condition when it comes to the truth.

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