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Reply #180 posted 10/23/07 6:32pm

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williamb610 said:

Is Prince gay?

In the bootleg song, "I'll Never Be Another Fool", Prince sings, "I'll never open my legs, again, to a man, who's insecure/I'll never open my legs again, unless, I'm really sure".

Even if this was a demo for a woman, why would he sing that line?

Also, if he's not gay, why did he have all of his male dancers fall, on top of him, in the sex-inspired video "Gett Off"?

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Reply #181 posted 10/24/07 12:22am

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williamb610 said:

PrettynPurple said:



If you really read the lyrics carefully it seems that prince is stating what

a woman would say in a particular situation

Who knows he may be stating what he thought another woman was thinking about him

To answer the question PRINCE IS NOT GAY


Ha ha...Prince never said in "I'll Never Be Another Fool" "This is a woman speaking". He just sung the lyrics.

Think about all the things that he's said through the years, if you really follow his music. Then, think about all the things that he's done, including licking his lips and sticking his tongue out, on the Arsenio Hall show, as Tony M. grinded Prince's hips up and down, during "Daddy Pop".


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Reply #182 posted 10/24/07 2:02am

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williamb610 said:

Is Prince gay?

In the bootleg song, "I'll Never Be Another Fool", Prince sings, "I'll never open my legs, again, to a man, who's insecure/I'll never open my legs again, unless, I'm really sure".

Even if this was a demo for a woman, why would he sing that line?

Also, if he's not gay, why did he have all of his male dancers fall, on top of him, in the sex-inspired video "Gett Off"?

eek


Jesus!!! i wonder if the Daily Mail knew about this before they put his CD in the sunday paper? hmmm George Micheal was a bit of a shock werent it? i used to dress like him and i possibly still do to this day. i might just turn gay one day without realising! u have to be careful not to get too sucked in lol
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Reply #183 posted 10/24/07 2:29am

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williamb610 said:

SoulAlive said:




It's called ENTERTAINMENT rolleyes Back then,Prince liked to shock people,which is why he did outrageous things in some of his performances.Madonna has kissed women onstage,are we to assume that she is a lesbian? You need to realize that these people are performers,it's all part of the act.


How do you know that Madonna isn't a lesbian? Remember Ellen Degeneres' ex Anne Heche. She's with a guy, now. In my opinion, 9 out of 10 straight women wouldn't kiss another woman, on the lips. Madonna did.


Well then,I guess Christina Aguilera and Britney Spears are lesbians too? lol Like I said,it's entertainment.Many artists use "shock tactics" to get attention.I can't believe that you take this stuff so seriously.They're putting on a show....a performance.Just like an actor plays a role in a movie.

I think you just want these people to be gay,to satisfy some crazy fantasy you have.
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Reply #184 posted 10/24/07 2:30am

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babynoz said:

vainandy said:

Prince is as straight as I am.




Baby boy, I bet you could teach a whole lotta guys, gay or straight how to carry themselves like a real man. nod I can respect a dude who speaks his mind with no agenda.


Thank you. It took a long time for me to accept what I am, speak my mind about it, and be proud of it.


Honest question...I asked one of my friends how comes a straight guy who's had a gay experience is considered gay? But a gay dude who has sex with a female is still not considered straight? Is that a double standard?


The difference is, gay men have slept with women in their past when they were in denial and felt that it was what they were supposed to do to be "normal". A so-called "straight man" (and I don't consider them straight) that sleeps with a man, sleeps with one because he wants to. They actually get pleasure out of sleeping with other men. We don't seek them out, they come down to our clubs and seek us out.

I've slept with women back when I was in the closet and in denial. I consider myself gay but if that makes me bisexual, then I have no problem accepting it. All I ask is that these so-called "straight men" that sleep with other men acknowledge that they are least bisexual. They refuse to do that though because they want to feel superior or above us gay men by calling themselves straight. They are also the biggest gay bashers in the world. They hate someone like me because I don't let them get away with thinking they are better than me. I don't even let them think they are on the same level as me. I put them on a level beneath me because I know and accept what I am, they don't accept what they are.

They want to experience the pleasure that comes with bisexuality but they don't want to face the prejudice that goes along with it. They are weak. If they can't do the time, don't do the crime.
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Reply #185 posted 10/24/07 2:36am

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vainandy said:[quote]


Thank you. It took a long time for me to accept what I am, speak my mind about it, and be proud of it.


Honest question...I asked one of my friends how comes a straight guy who's had a gay experience is considered gay? But a gay dude who has sex with a female is still not considered straight? Is that a double standard?


The difference is, gay men have sleep with women in their past when they were in denial and felt that it was what they were supposed to do to be "normal". A so-called "straight man" (and I don't consider them straight) that sleeps with a man, sleeps with one because he wants to. They actually get pleasure out of sleeping with other men. We don't seek them out, they come down to our clubs and seek us out.

I've slept with women back when I was in the closet and in denial. I consider myself gay but if that makes me bisexual, then I have no problem accepting it. All I ask is that these so-called "straight men" that sleep with other men acknowledge that they are least bisexual. They refuse to do that though because they want to feel superior or above us gay men by calling themselves straight. They are also the biggest gay bashers in the world. They hate someone like me because I don't let them get away with thinking they are better than me. I don't even let them think they are on the same level as me. I put them on a level beneath me because I know and accept what I am, they don't accept what they are.

They want to experience the pleasure that comes with bisexuality but they don't want to face the prejudice that goes along with it. They are weak. If they can't do the time, don't do the crime.
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Reply #186 posted 10/24/07 6:23am

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williamb610 said:

fantasticjoy said:

As song writer I know you have to sing the song yourself, otherwise they would have no idea how the lyrics are to be sung unless they are psychic.You here it a certain way and you want the artist to perform exactly how you here.Otherwise they just might totally change the song.


That's pretty funny. Let's take the example of Justin Timberlake's producer Timbaland. So, the producer Timberland sung over his own tracks first? Then, Justin Timberlake sung them?!

Hahahahahaha...

You're pretty delusional. A producer doesn't have to sing a track, at all, in order to give instruction, on a song.

Prince sung that song with those lyrics because he wanted to do it. Is Prince gay? He might be.

Here's a "When You Were Mine" lyric: "I never cared. I never was the kind to make a fuss. When he was there...sleeping IN BETWEEN the two of us."

Songwriter and producer are two different things.I know what I'm talking about. The singer can't just know how the lyrics are to be sung.They can give their own interpretation, but unless they are psychic they would'nt know how to sing them unless the songwriter show them.Let's just say if you never heard When Doves Cry before.Someone give you the music and some hand written lyrics, would you know how to sing them exactly the way Prince sang them.Anyways , I'm pretty sure all other songwriters do the same.
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Reply #187 posted 10/24/07 6:49am

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Jesus!!! i wonder if the Daily Mail knew about this before they put his CD in the sunday paper? hmmm George Micheal was a bit of a shock werent it? i used to dress like him and i possibly still do to this day. i might just turn gay one day without realising! u have to be careful not to get too sucked in lol


LMAO.
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Reply #188 posted 10/24/07 7:11am

SoulAlive

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Also, the old axiom that there is no bad press has a seed of truth to it. Alicia Keys has a new song that could be read as a closeted lesbian lyric, Alicia is a bright person, she knows that those things will stir up some controversy. For some bizarre reason, us Americans are obsessed with homosexuality in each other and in our public figures.



You bring up a good point.Smart artists know that controversy is press.Prince learned this early on.In the early part of his career,he was purposely trying to confuse people.He wanted people to wonder about his sexuality...

I just can't believe all the things people say (controversy)
Am I black or white? Am I straight or gay?


It was all an act.He was thriving on the controversy and mixed messages he was sending.Obviously,a guy wearing make-up,high heels and singing songs like "Jack U Off" is bound to get ALOT of attention,lol.Prince was no fool.He knew what he was doing,and it worked.
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Reply #189 posted 10/24/07 7:18am

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JudasLChrist said:

I don't think Prince is "gay", but I know that he has gotten with men on occasion. I've told the story here a couple times, but no-one believes me, so I'm not going to bother telling it again. At least now, anyway.
Prince obviously does not identify as gay. In my book, that mean he's not gay. End of story. It can be assumed that most men have crossed the line at times in their lives. Some more than others...It's not really a big deal. It doesn't mean anything about one's particular sexual identity or gender. Gay and straight are just stupid labels that don't tell the full story of anyone's sexuality.

Oddly, I saw Prince with Tamar at the Fillmore in SF. The dancers pulled up this guy who seemed pretty obviously gay... I don't remember EXACTLY what was said, but I do remember Prince making some kind of quick dismissive comment toward the guy regarding his gender presentation. I remember thinking it was REALLY hypocritical of Prince. Prince, wants to wear women's panties (basically) and still be one of the guys. After all these years, regardless of what he's done and who he's been, Prince still can't seem to break free from a base level hetero-sexism. That short little incident was really disappointing to me.


I wanna know where this person is bcuz I wanna hear this story like soooo many others in here! lol
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Reply #190 posted 10/24/07 9:27am

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KidaDynamite said:

williamb610 said:



Ha ha...Prince never said in "I'll Never Be Another Fool" "This is a woman speaking". He just sung the lyrics.

Think about all the things that he's said through the years, if you really follow his music. Then, think about all the things that he's done, including licking his lips and sticking his tongue out, on the Arsenio Hall show, as Tony M. grinded Prince's hips up and down, during "Daddy Pop".


eek We want visual Proof stab


It was Prince's first appearance, on the Arsenio Hall show in 1991. Maybe, it's on Youtube somewhere. Then, again, Youtube has been taking off all of its Prince stuff. Look for it, on the internet. It's out there.
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Reply #191 posted 10/24/07 9:47am

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williamb610 said:

KidaDynamite said:



eek We want visual Proof stab


It was Prince's first appearance, on the Arsenio Hall show in 1991. Maybe, it's on Youtube somewhere. Then, again, Youtube has been taking off all of its Prince stuff. Look for it, on the internet. It's out there.


That ain't good enough stab















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Reply #192 posted 10/24/07 11:19am

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williamb610 said:

KidaDynamite said:



eek We want visual Proof stab


It was Prince's first appearance, on the Arsenio Hall show in 1991. Maybe, it's on Youtube somewhere. Then, again, Youtube has been taking off all of its Prince stuff. Look for it, on the internet. It's out there.



OMG, I remember that. I was like, WTF? Simulated butt-fucking where Prince is the "bottom"?

Not that there is anything wrong with that, but it was totally unexpected. I mean, Prince in high heels with a typhoon hairdo, bright yellow lacy clothing, and tons of MAC makeup wasn't hint enough.
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Reply #193 posted 10/25/07 5:55pm

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Prince is a Gemini with a virgo moon and a Scorpio Rising if that helps to understand him better.
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Reply #194 posted 10/26/07 4:54am

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I remember from years ago, don't know if it was a spoken or written interview that Prince himself pointed out that this sexual and gayisch image he was spreading was part of a role he was playing for fun, something like even bad attention is attention.

I cannot find it back though but I'm sure as hell he has said this. For him this has always been a great PR stunt and it worked out just the way he wanted.



Don't think any gay man wants to take a peep into a woman's blouse? He's cool.
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Reply #195 posted 10/29/07 2:53am

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CJanssen said:

Okay okay, here's some proof Prince is gay



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i just....wtf!? parade era? lol
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Reply #196 posted 10/29/07 3:04am

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Meloh9 said:

Prince is a Gemini with a virgo moon and a Scorpio Rising if that helps to understand him better.



no. what u mean? scorpios are never gay!

prince looks gay but hes not. simple as that.

is there a single man in the world that claims that had sex with prince?

and women?

that answers the question.
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Reply #197 posted 10/29/07 3:17am

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electrorock said:

Meloh9 said:

Prince is a Gemini with a virgo moon and a Scorpio Rising if that helps to understand him better.



no. what u mean? scorpios are never gay!

prince looks gay but hes not. simple as that.

is there a single man in the world that claims that had sex with prince?

and women?

that answers the question.


That answers nothing. Prince probably has confidentiality papers on his nightstand next to his condoms.
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Reply #198 posted 10/29/07 3:30am

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That answers nothing. Prince probably has confidentiality papers on his nightstand next to his condoms.


lol

but come on, the gay thing is so 1981.

he could be bisexual but u need to have sex with men to be one so...



hes straight, period.
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Reply #199 posted 10/29/07 3:39am

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electrorock said:

vainandy said:



That answers nothing. Prince probably has confidentiality papers on his nightstand next to his condoms.


lol

but come on, the gay thing is so 1981.

he could be bisexual but u need to have sex with men to be one so...




hes straight, period.


You don't know that he hasn't had sex with men. Just because a man hasn't stepped forward and said he's had sex with Prince means nothing. I don't know of any men that have said they had sex with Little Richard either.

It's very easy to keep your sex life a total secret. I did it myself for years and for someone as privacy obsessed as Prince with the lawyers and money to do it, it would be very easy to keep a male sex partner's mouth shut. I haven't heard a lot of female groupie's stories about their sexual experiences with Prince either. Apparently, Prince has been able to keep their mouths shut for all these years also (if they actually existed).
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Reply #200 posted 10/29/07 3:46am

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hes straight, period.


You don't know that he hasn't had sex with men. Just because a man hasn't stepped forward and said he's had sex with Prince means nothing. I don't know of any men that have said they had sex with Little Richard either.

It's very easy to keep your sex life a total secret. I did it myself for years and for someone as privacy obsessed as Prince with the lawyers and money to do it, it would be very easy to keep a male sex partner's mouth shut. I haven't heard a lot of female groupie's stories about their sexual experiences with Prince either. Apparently, Prince has been able to keep their mouths shut for all these years also (if they actually existed).



one thing is saying u had with him publicly and saying it privatly.

privatly everyone knew george michael was gay. prince had more women than julio iglesias. I personally know a few girls that had sex with him in 1990 during the nude tour.
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Reply #201 posted 10/29/07 3:54am

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psychodelicide said:

williamb610 said:

Is Prince gay?

In the bootleg song, "I'll Never Be Another Fool", Prince sings, "I'll never open my legs, again, to a man, who's insecure/I'll never open my legs again, unless, I'm really sure".

Even if this was a demo for a woman, why would he sing that line?

Also, if he's not gay, why did he have all of his male dancers fall, on top of him, in the sex-inspired video "Gett Off"?

eek




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Reply #202 posted 10/29/07 4:00am

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electrorock said:

vainandy said:



You don't know that he hasn't had sex with men. Just because a man hasn't stepped forward and said he's had sex with Prince means nothing. I don't know of any men that have said they had sex with Little Richard either.

It's very easy to keep your sex life a total secret. I did it myself for years and for someone as privacy obsessed as Prince with the lawyers and money to do it, it would be very easy to keep a male sex partner's mouth shut. I haven't heard a lot of female groupie's stories about their sexual experiences with Prince either. Apparently, Prince has been able to keep their mouths shut for all these years also (if they actually existed).



one thing is saying u had with him publicly and saying it privatly.

privatly everyone knew george michael was gay. prince had more women than julio iglesias. I personally know a few girls that had sex with him in 1990 during the nude tour.


I know a guy that used to live in Minneapolis that Prince used to frequent the gay clubs up there. It would have been believable if the guy had said it was earlier in Prince's career such as the "For You" or "Prince" album but the guy said it was during the "Purple Rain" era. This is totally unbelievable because Prince was a huge star during that time and the story would have been in every tabloid across the country.

I also know another guy that used to live in Los Angeles who said Prince used to send someone into a gay club to pick up a guy for him. This sounded very believable until the guy said he saw a guy getting into a limo, and when the door opened, there was Prince sitting there. I'm sure if Prince wanted a guy, he would stay at his hotel room and send someone to a club to pick one out for him. I can't see Prince taking the chance of being seen in the vacinity of the gay club.

Yeah, I've heard stories from both males and females but people have been known to lie and some of them aren't even good liars. lol
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Reply #203 posted 10/29/07 4:27am

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vainandy said:



I know a guy that used to live in Minneapolis that Prince used to frequent the gay clubs up there. It would have been believable if the guy had said it was earlier in Prince's career such as the "For You" or "Prince" album but the guy said it was during the "Purple Rain" era. This is totally unbelievable because Prince was a huge star during that time and the story would have been in every tabloid across the country.

I also know another guy that used to live in Los Angeles who said Prince used to send someone into a gay club to pick up a guy for him. This sounded very believable until the guy said he saw a guy getting into a limo, and when the door opened, there was Prince sitting there. I'm sure if Prince wanted a guy, he would stay at his hotel room and send someone to a club to pick one out for him. I can't see Prince taking the chance of being seen in the vacinity of the gay club.

Yeah, I've heard stories from both males and females but people have been known to lie and some of them aren't even good liars. lol



I've heard a lot of stories about Prince being with women, these stories come from the women themselves etc. Also, he was heavily checking out a cousin of mine when she went to see him back in the early 90's.

I've never heard a single thing about him being interested in men at all. I have a closeted cousin, and a few of us in the family knew for years before he even admitted it himself. If Prince was even slightly interested in men there would be some tell-tale signs, but I've never seen any.
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Reply #204 posted 10/29/07 4:41am

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vainandy said:



I know a guy that used to live in Minneapolis that Prince used to frequent the gay clubs up there. It would have been believable if the guy had said it was earlier in Prince's career such as the "For You" or "Prince" album but the guy said it was during the "Purple Rain" era. This is totally unbelievable because Prince was a huge star during that time and the story would have been in every tabloid across the country.

I also know another guy that used to live in Los Angeles who said Prince used to send someone into a gay club to pick up a guy for him. This sounded very believable until the guy said he saw a guy getting into a limo, and when the door opened, there was Prince sitting there. I'm sure if Prince wanted a guy, he would stay at his hotel room and send someone to a club to pick one out for him. I can't see Prince taking the chance of being seen in the vacinity of the gay club.

Yeah, I've heard stories from both males and females but people have been known to lie and some of them aren't even good liars. lol


ur probaly used to deal with liars. that doesnt mean everyone is.
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Reply #205 posted 10/29/07 7:22am

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No, I don't think Prince is Gay, but he is picky about the women he
dates, I think the male friends help him the ladys and what they think matters.
I know it sounds crazy,But that what I think. smile
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Reply #206 posted 10/29/07 8:45am

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CJanssen said:

Okay okay, here's some proof Prince is gay






CJanssen

PLEASE tell me u edited this image!! If not which magazine was this from its ABSOLUTELY HILARIOUS!! and shows what a brilliant sense of humor he has.... if its real.... sure looks real.....



I dont think he's Gay, but Gay or straight his music is inspirational and brilliant.
One minute they want peace……

Then do everything to make it go away. rolleyes
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Reply #207 posted 10/29/07 8:49am

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JOYJOY said:

CJanssen said:

Okay okay, here's some proof Prince is gay






CJanssen

PLEASE tell me u edited this image!! If not which magazine was this from its ABSOLUTELY HILARIOUS!! and shows what a brilliant sense of humor he has.... if its real.... sure looks real.....



I dont think he's Gay, but Gay or straight his music is inspirational and brilliant.



Um I find this strangely attractive, only cos I cant stop looking at his hairy legs, so near yet so far from his sex shooter he he!!!!
Oh Princey if your free for a couple of hours...If you aint busy for the next 7 years...Lets Pretend were married, and go all night..
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Reply #208 posted 10/29/07 8:59am

Jeffiner

CJanssen said:

I remember from years ago, don't know if it was a spoken or written interview that Prince himself pointed out that this sexual and gayisch image he was spreading was part of a role he was playing for fun, something like even bad attention is attention.

I cannot find it back though but I'm sure as hell he has said this. For him this has always been a great PR stunt and it worked out just the way he wanted.



Don't think any gay man wants to take a peep into a woman's blouse? He's cool.


Wasn't it an interview with Chris Rock? He talked about kissing the girl in the band, and hugging the drummer (or something similar) and said "That's rock'n'roll" and "there was a bit of acting going on too" - good interview - he mentions MJ and the 'Bad' video - funny!
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Reply #209 posted 10/29/07 10:51am

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Flowerz said:

psychodelicide said:





nod Zactly ..


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