Isolar said: sosgemini said: i think if prince were growing up today he probably would feel comfortable enough and welcome enough by society to be gay.
but since he was raised when it wasn't cool (and seriously, everything comes around to being cool with him) he has probably hidden those feelings so deep inside him that it would never manifest into actions; If Prince was growing up today, he's still wouldn't be gay because Prince is hetrosexual. does my personal opinion on this matter offend you? Space for sale... | |
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I know that Prince is not gay, However, I remember the early eighties being
a time where clothes were very expressive...for everybody, not just the look, Prince had with "Dirty Mind." When you are younger, a lot of things that you do can be misleading. And for men and women both to contain that equal male female balance within them, there are going to be times that people question you. I grew up with male friends that all dressed unusually when we went dancing. Some of if was band image, or just eccentric style...One of my friends grew up gay...The rest of these guys did not. Sexuality is appreciated by both sexes, regardless of your style of dress or your true lifestyle. "The Lion Sleeps Tonight... | |
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ARE YOU INTERESTED IN PRINCE MUSIC OR WHO`S IN PRINCE`S BED??
Personnally I don`t care if he`s GAY or not!...Why do U wanna know?...It is not very interesting...Is it? I love the man for his music!!!...for Godness sake! "Goodness will guide us if Love is inside us" | |
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Just turn the question around: if he was gay, why would he hide it?? Does he even care about what others think of him?? And why would he lie in every other song he has ever sung???
It just doesn't make sence.... | |
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I thought we all agreed he is a lesbian. | |
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Christaro said: I thought we all agreed he is a lesbian.
wait..... surviving on the thought of loving you, it's just like the water
I ain't felt this way in years... | |
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This bullshit again | |
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No, are you? | |
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I don't think he is but why does it matter? As long as you're not trying to fuck him, it shouldn't matter, right?
Don't get me wrong, I'd still fuck him, gay or not! Shake it til ya make it | |
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totaldiva said: jonylawson said: "" definately not sloppy with his shit.""
ahem-he might have after some bum fun hehehe In this day and age, nothing would surprise me, including Prince. When a celeb has so much access to everything and anyone, you never know what could happen. Like I said, if he did jump of with men in his past, he definately kept that on thd DL. I never heard any homo about Prince. People made judgements on his pretty looks, hair whipped better then the women in his circle, and at times, questionable frilly clothes. I see it as a racial double standard. White rockers could wear enough make up to look like a full fledge drag queen, have hair/weaves down their backs, wear womens lace garments, and wear high heel boots without a question about their sexuality. If a Black performer isn't giving that pseudo, over played "gangsta" image, he is questioned about being gay.To me, he is rock and roll who happens to be black. Nowadays, even the most "gangsta" of people (rappers to regular people) have much respect for Prince and dream about the stunning women of Prince's past. Well written post. Great points as well. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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I've recorded with Andre and Morris, two cats who KNEW P long BEFORE P became known. I've also known others in his circle. A few cats from Mazarati, etc. Point is, if P was gay or bi, not saying they would say it straight out, unless they were pissed at him. But they could easily drop little hints if they wanted without saying it directly. If anybody would know, it would definately be Andre. He was the probably the closest "male" to Prince in P's life. P has definately flirted with putting out a gay vibe. There's no doubt about that. But I believe it's in 3 stages. 1) P came up in a time when "pretty" men, cats with girlish looks, drove women crazy. The prettier u were, the more women wanted u. This was especially true in the 70's (teen idols, i.e Leif Garret, Shaun Cassidy and a group the influenced P's look during this period, Switch)and the 80's i.e. the rock scene from Van Halen to early Motley Crue to the next wave of hair bands, Poison, etc. The more these cats looke like girls the better it was for them to succeed.) SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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blackguitaristz said: I've recorded with Andre and Morris, two cats who KNEW P long BEFORE P became known. I've also known others in his circle. A few cats from Mazarati, etc. Point is, if P was gay or bi, not saying they would say it straight out, unless they were pissed at him. But they could easily drop little hints if they wanted without saying it directly. If anybody would know, it would definately be Andre. He was the probably the closest "male" to Prince in P's life. P has definately flirted with putting out a gay vibe. There's no doubt about that. But I believe it's in 3 stages. 1) P came up in a time when "pretty" men, cats with girlish looks, drove women crazy. The prettier u were, the more women wanted u. This was especially true in the 70's (teen idols, i.e Leif Garret, Shaun Cassidy and a group the influenced P's look during this period, Switch)and the 80's i.e. the rock scene from Van Halen to early Motley Crue to the next wave of hair bands, Poison, etc. The more these cats looke like girls the better it was for them to succeed.)
but look at black artist who came up around the same time as prince. like luther...being gay would have meant the kiss of death personally and professionally. if prince way gay, i doubt he would ever act on it or acknowledge it to anyone. this happens all the time in our society. Space for sale... | |
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blackguitaristz said: I've recorded with Andre and Morris, two cats who KNEW P long BEFORE P became known. I've also known others in his circle. A few cats from Mazarati, etc. Point is, if P was gay or bi, not saying they would say it straight out, unless they were pissed at him. But they could easily drop little hints if they wanted without saying it directly. If anybody would know, it would definately be Andre. He was the probably the closest "male" to Prince in P's life. P has definately flirted with putting out a gay vibe. There's no doubt about that. But I believe it's in 3 stages. 1) P came up in a time when "pretty" men, cats with girlish looks, drove women crazy. The prettier u were, the more women wanted u. This was especially true in the 70's (teen idols, i.e Leif Garret, Shaun Cassidy and a group the influenced P's look during this period, Switch)and the 80's i.e. the rock scene from Van Halen to early Motley Crue to the next wave of hair bands, Poison, etc. The more these cats looke like girls the better it was for them to succeed.)
2) P was heavily influenced by Mick Jagger. Andre told me that Mick was in P's top 5. He LOVED Mick. Everything about him. P wanted folks to think of him what they thought of Mick. In the late 60's, well, maybe I'll save this for a seperate thread. But anyways, P also loved Bowie and Marc Bolan. He also was VERY influenced by the New Wave Movement in England. The late 70's/early 80's acts really influenced P's image and to a degree, his 81- early 82 music, i.e Adam Ant.3) The album cover for Controversy could easily be by a British New Wave artist. His bow tie, black pants and vests echoed the look of Bowie from his Diamond Dogs and 75-76 period. He also vamped Paul Stanley from 75-79 KISS and Tim Curry from Rocky Horror. He was really more influenced by non black performers, visually, untill Purple Rain. Then he wanted to echoe all of the flashiest bruthas from Little Richard, to James to Sly to of course, Hendrix. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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sosgemini said: blackguitaristz said: I've recorded with Andre and Morris, two cats who KNEW P long BEFORE P became known. I've also known others in his circle. A few cats from Mazarati, etc. Point is, if P was gay or bi, not saying they would say it straight out, unless they were pissed at him. But they could easily drop little hints if they wanted without saying it directly. If anybody would know, it would definately be Andre. He was the probably the closest "male" to Prince in P's life. P has definately flirted with putting out a gay vibe. There's no doubt about that. But I believe it's in 3 stages. 1) P came up in a time when "pretty" men, cats with girlish looks, drove women crazy. The prettier u were, the more women wanted u. This was especially true in the 70's (teen idols, i.e Leif Garret, Shaun Cassidy and a group the influenced P's look during this period, Switch)and the 80's i.e. the rock scene from Van Halen to early Motley Crue to the next wave of hair bands, Poison, etc. The more these cats looke like girls the better it was for them to succeed.)
but look at black artist who came up around the same time as prince. like luther...being gay would have meant the kiss of death personally and professionally. if prince way gay, i doubt he would ever act on it or acknowledge it to anyone. this happens all the time in our society. Right, but during this period, from 78-83, visually, P did not want to be linked to other black artists. Period. Gay or straight. Visually, besides Jimi, he borrowed more from non black men. He was seperating himself from the black artists during this period, like Roger/Zapp, Cameo, Lakeside, etc. He didn't want to be liked to that at all. He KNEW brothers were in no way shape of form going to flirt with any type of feminine qualities during the early 80's. That was another motive for P to embrace that cuz he knew it would be "different" because he was black. That's one reason why he screamed so much in his songs during this period. Cuz NOBODY else was doing it or going to do it. P was all about doing things that other black artist wouldn't be caught dead doing. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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blackguitaristz said: sosgemini said: but look at black artist who came up around the same time as prince. like luther...being gay would have meant the kiss of death personally and professionally. if prince way gay, i doubt he would ever act on it or acknowledge it to anyone. this happens all the time in our society. Right, but during this period, from 78-83, visually, P did not want to be linked to other black artists. Period. Gay or straight. Visually, besides Jimi, he borrowed more from non black men. He was seperating himself from the black artists during this period, like Roger/Zapp, Cameo, Lakeside, etc. He didn't want to be liked to that at all. He KNEW brothers were in no way shape of form going to flirt with any type of feminine qualities during the early 80's. That was another motive for P to embrace that cuz he knew it would be "different" because he was black. That's one reason why he screamed so much in his songs during this period. Cuz NOBODY else was doing it or going to do it. P was all about doing things that other black artist wouldn't be caught dead doing. The only other brother P took from, visually, during the early 80's and really since 79, was Rick. But he took elements from Rick and then put his feminine and weirdness touch to it. Two things he KNEW Rick would never do. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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govinda said: ARE YOU INTERESTED IN PRINCE MUSIC OR WHO`S IN PRINCE`S BED??
Personnally I don`t care if he`s GAY or not!...Why do U wanna know?...It is not very interesting...Is it? I love the man for his music!!!...for Godness sake! I totally agree with you govinda, and I may add: I just cant believe all the things people say Am I black or white? am I straight or gay? Do I believe in god? do I believe in me? I cant understand human curiosity Was it good for you? was I what you wanted me to be? Do you get high? does your daddy cry? | |
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Talked to death on this topic with my friend - he seems to think he is, the 2 points being rubbing up against/and kissing(?) Andre in early performances and Vanity saying he definitely has dabbled in bum fun.
In later conversations with other people, it seems the Eddie Izzard factor (likes women’s clothes but is straight) is what confuses people. Gay or not, Prince is a dandy camp effeminate little fairy - which is cool with me. But what is truly fascinating is that if he totally straight why haven’t any male lovers come out of his closet and said something?. I sometimes think he goes over the top, I mean I think Nick Rhodes, some of the new Romantics, David Sylvian they knew how to put slap on a bit of make-up on in the day, and still look cool. But when P goes all Lovesexy tour book on us, it just too much - man. And all those awful lollipop pics from Gold, the lampshade outfit from MBGIW vid. etc etc... Curiously fascinating subject. And I’m glad that the comments like ‘not this shit again’ are in the minority on this thread, P's sexuality and image are of great interest, worthy of debate and not to be dismissed as 'oh no not this again - why can't y'all give it a break, who gives a fuck if he's gay, are you anti-gay?'...etc...etc... nonesense. | |
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blackguitaristz said: blackguitaristz said: Right, but during this period, from 78-83, visually, P did not want to be linked to other black artists. Period. Gay or straight. Visually, besides Jimi, he borrowed more from non black men. He was seperating himself from the black artists during this period, like Roger/Zapp, Cameo, Lakeside, etc. He didn't want to be liked to that at all. He KNEW brothers were in no way shape of form going to flirt with any type of feminine qualities during the early 80's. That was another motive for P to embrace that cuz he knew it would be "different" because he was black. That's one reason why he screamed so much in his songs during this period. Cuz NOBODY else was doing it or going to do it. P was all about doing things that other black artist wouldn't be caught dead doing. The only other brother P took from, visually, during the early 80's and really since 79, was Rick. But he took elements from Rick and then put his feminine and weirdness touch to it. Two things he KNEW Rick would never do. i am not addressing his image...im addressing his sexuality. Space for sale... | |
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Veej said: Talked to death on this topic with my friend - he seems to think he is, the 2 points being rubbing up against/and kissing(?) Andre in early performances and Vanity saying he definitely has dabbled in bum fun.
In later conversations with other people, it seems the Eddie Izzard factor (likes women’s clothes but is straight) is what confuses people. Gay or not, Prince is a dandy camp effeminate little fairy - which is cool with me. But what is truly fascinating is that if he totally straight why haven’t any male lovers come out of his closet and said something?. I sometimes think he goes over the top, I mean I think Nick Rhodes, some of the new Romantics, David Sylvian they knew how to put slap on a bit of make-up on in the day, and still look cool. But when P goes all Lovesexy tour book on us, it just too much - man. And all those awful lollipop pics from Gold, the lampshade outfit from MBGIW vid. etc etc... Curiously fascinating subject. And I’m glad that the comments like ‘not this shit again’ are in the minority on this thread, P's sexuality and image are of great interest, worthy of debate and not to be dismissed as 'oh no not this again - why can't y'all give it a break, who gives a fuck if he's gay, are you anti-gay?'...etc...etc... nonesense. Good on him if he`s GAY or bisexual!! You know I live in Europe where is totally cool and OK to be whatever sexually! I`ve got tons of gay friends...Actually I will be quite happy if he was GAY!! Maybe that will help people on here to just chill out about the subject!! "Goodness will guide us if Love is inside us" | |
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sosgemini said: blackguitaristz said: The only other brother P took from, visually, during the early 80's and really since 79, was Rick. But he took elements from Rick and then put his feminine and weirdness touch to it. Two things he KNEW Rick would never do. i am not addressing his image...im addressing his sexuality. Prince. Is. Gay. His sexuality is completely irrelevant to what type of musician he is or whether or not I like him, but Prince is utterly, and completely, and irreversibly a closet case. That's what makes his career so interesting to me: How far down his repressed homosexual feelings can be buried before he finally bursts out and sucks a dick on stage. There's not a page on the Prince photo gallery here that wouldn't cause suspicions among people if it were any other musician or actor on earth--we would just know. But because it's Prince, well---you get threads like this. Prince is gay yall. We voted on it years ago. Mods, please update the Q&A page so we can put this to bed. | |
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please please stop with this nonsence....who cares if he is gay r not....it is all part of the mystique surrounding him.....n partly why we all love him so much...
as he is well known 4 dating very sexy women i would guess thats what he wants us 2 believe n he could possibly b bi sexual which is quite common these days. 4 me personally its his music that i love n the per4mance on stage during his concerts..... who prince has sex with is his own buisness...there was much talk that he was shaggin the twinz but i met the twinz @ indigo n 1 of them told me that they never stayed in princes room n that they were hired originally 4 promotional reasons....if U saw the twinz live with prince u would know that they r used 2 there full potential 2 boost prince's ego n give everyone the image that prince loves 2 have sexy women around him at all times... george michael was n the closet 4 years n perhaps prince is the same but look at george michael now....he has made a terrific comeback n is still rolling n riches selling out stadiums all over europe recently.....if prince told us he is gay it wouldnt change a thing n i 4 1 would be a bigger fam n support him 100% as always. he must be straight if had a baby with mayte n then remarried that crazy fan N then employee of the park mani.... during the duet with elton @ 02 he didnt get 2 close 2 elton n when elton wanted 2 give prince a hug he declined n shook his hand instead....but perhaps he didnt wanna make eltons hubby jealous n the VIP table below....ha ha ha ha peace n love always WOLFY [Edited 10/14/07 9:45am] Welcome 2 wolfys lair!! Make love not war!!!
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irishwolfhound said: please please stop with this nonsence....who cares if he is gay r not....it is all part of the mystique surrounding him.....n partly why we all love him so much...
as he is well known 4 dating very sexy women i would guess thats what he wants us 2 believe n he could possibly by bi sexual which is quite common these days. 4 me personally its his muic that i love n the per4mance on stage during his concerts..... who prince has sex with is his own buisness...there was much talk that he was shaggin the twinz but i met the twinz @ indigo n 1 of them told me that they never stayed in princes room n that they were hired originally 4 promotional reasons....if u saw the twinz live with prince u would know that they r used 2 there full potential 2 boost prince's ego n give everyone the image that prince loves 2 have sexy women around him at all times... george michael was n the closet 4 years n perhaps prince is the same but look at george michael now....he has made a terrific comeback n is still rollong n riches selling out stadiums all over europe recently.....if prince told us he is gay it wouldnt cahnge a thing n i 4 1 would be a bigger fam n support him 100% as always. he must be straight if had a baby with mayte n then remarried that crazy fan N then employee of the park mani.... WOLFY [Edited 10/14/07 9:33am] He's totally gay. | |
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irishwolfhound said: please please stop with this nonsence....who cares if he is gay r not....it is all part of the mystique surrounding him.....n partly why we all love him so much...
as he is well known 4 dating very sexy women i would guess thats what he wants us 2 believe n he could possibly by bi sexual which is quite common these days. 4 me personally its his muic that i love n the per4mance on stage during his concerts..... who prince has sex with is his own buisness...there was much talk that he was shaggin the twinz but i met the twinz @ indigo n 1 of them told me that they never stayed in princes room n that they were hired originally 4 promotional reasons....if u saw the twinz live with prince u would know that they r used 2 there full potential 2 boost prince's ego n give everyone the image that prince loves 2 have sexy women around him at all times... george michael was n the closet 4 years n perhaps prince is the same but look at george michael now....he has made a terrific comeback n is still rollong n riches selling out stadiums all over europe recently.....if prince told us he is gay it wouldnt cahnge a thing n i 4 1 would be a bigger fam n support him 100% as always. he must be straight if had a baby with mayte n then remarried that crazy fan N then employee of the park mani.... WOLFY [Edited 10/14/07 9:33am] Very well said Wolfy!!! "Goodness will guide us if Love is inside us" | |
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irishwolfhound said: please please stop with this nonsence....who cares if he is gay r not....it is all part of the mystique surrounding him.....n partly why we all love him so much...
as he is well known 4 dating very sexy women i would guess thats what he wants us 2 believe n he could possibly b bi sexual which is quite common these days. 4 me personally its his music that i love n the per4mance on stage during his concerts..... who prince has sex with is his own buisness...there was much talk that he was shaggin the twinz but i met the twinz @ indigo n 1 of them told me that they never stayed in princes room n that they were hired originally 4 promotional reasons....if U saw the twinz live with prince u would know that they r used 2 there full potential 2 boost prince's ego n give everyone the image that prince loves 2 have sexy women around him at all times... george michael was n the closet 4 years n perhaps prince is the same but look at george michael now....he has made a terrific comeback n is still rolling n riches selling out stadiums all over europe recently.....if prince told us he is gay it wouldnt change a thing n i 4 1 would be a bigger fam n support him 100% as always. he must be straight if had a baby with mayte n then remarried that crazy fan N then employee of the park mani.... during the duet with elton @ 02 he didnt get 2 close 2 elton n when elton wanted 2 give prince a hug he declined n shook his hand instead....but perhaps he didnt wanna make eltons hubby jealous n the VIP table below....ha ha ha ha peace n love always WOLFY [Edited 10/14/07 9:45am] updated....with my bad typing corrected....lol....was at a party last nite n have a hangover.....anybody got a cure 4 wolfy???? lol WOLFY [Edited 10/14/07 9:48am] Welcome 2 wolfys lair!! Make love not war!!!
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sosgemini said: blackguitaristz said: The only other brother P took from, visually, during the early 80's and really since 79, was Rick. But he took elements from Rick and then put his feminine and weirdness touch to it. Two things he KNEW Rick would never do. i am not addressing his image...im addressing his sexuality. I know. I myself don't believe P is gay. Or bi for that matter. Not because I don't want him to be, like I think is the case with others on here. Like that would diminish his art. Or others on here who are perhaps themselves gay, wishing P to be gay. I just don't believe he is. I think P has a way of exuding some serious overtones but their too over the top. Like parody. If P was gay, I don't think he would be as feminine as he has shown. Fact is, when P is off stage and he's not performing, he doesn't show these qualities at all. Especially in the 80's, when he was his most street and thuggish. P acted like what he was. A very short brother who has been picked on a lot and had to learn how to fight and run. The super deep speaking voice makes up for his height. He's very masculine in his aura, off stage. Now his period diring Lovesexy and during the 90's, I myself was like "Damn P, what the fuck is this shit?" He didn't look gay. He looked queerish. I wondered how he tapped into to that. Is he that much in touch with his feminine side and that free in showcasing it? Obviously so. There was a period in the 90's that p looked creepy as fuck. Not in a cool way either. Bowie ALWAYS looked cool. ALWAYS. In the 90's, P "looked" like he would be down for anything. Which made his "thang" a trip because even with all of that, I still think he's just a lil' brother with the deep voice that's into saying "what it is?". SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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This may not make any sense but I think P, like Johnny Thunders from the New York Dolls, who was very homophobic, dig elements of the way certain women act or dress, to the point that they incorporate it onto themselves. I think in P's case, he digs women and the essence of women so much that he has to capture THAT. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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Isolar said: sosgemini said: i think if prince were growing up today he probably would feel comfortable enough and welcome enough by society to be gay.
but since he was raised when it wasn't cool (and seriously, everything comes around to being cool with him) he has probably hidden those feelings so deep inside him that it would never manifest into actions; If Prince was growing up today, he's still wouldn't be gay because Prince is hetrosexual. LOL, says the orger with Bowie icon. Before 1984, I sure as hell thought Prince was gay. But then I saw him in Purple Rain and realized, this little sexual God is pan-sexual. He's beyond sex. I don't know and don't think that he's gay, but if he were, it wouldn't destroy me, because anyone who could wear assless pants and still be hetero... ...now THERE's a musical genius. Some people tell me I've got great legs... | |
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