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Who cares if anyone is "giving up/quitting Prince"? When people post to give us a dramatic story about why they are not into Prince anymore (not going to his show/buying albums/etc.) it seems like a silly thing to post. I mean hey if you don't like Prince anymore that's all well and good but I don't give a fuck. It's your life and it's not like your leaving a country or religion. Listen someone else and quit being so dramatic. He is only a rock star (albeit the best ever)  "New Power slide...." |
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skywalker said: When people post to give us a dramatic story about why they are not into Prince anymore (not going to his show/buying albums/etc.) it seems like a silly thing to post. I mean hey if you don't like Prince anymore that's all well and good but I don't give a fuck. It's your life and it's not like your leaving a country or religion. Listen someone else and quit being so dramatic. He is only a rock star (albeit the best ever)
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skywalker said: Who cares if anyone is "giving up/quitting Prince"?
Prince better care. There aren't that many left... | |
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AaronForever said: skywalker said: Who cares if anyone is "giving up/quitting Prince"?
Prince better care. There aren't that many left... Yeah. I heard only 5,000 copies of the Rave album were sold in the UK. That's a serious decline in fans. When an artist starts to lose casual fans, it's not a big deal, but when he starts to lose people who have spent thousands of dollars on him, he's in trouble.   | |
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skywalker said: When people post to give us a dramatic story about why they are not into Prince anymore (not going to his show/buying albums/etc.) it seems like a silly thing to post. I mean hey if you don't like Prince anymore that's all well and good but I don't give a fuck. It's your life and it's not like your leaving a country or religion. Listen someone else and quit being so dramatic. He is only a rock star (albeit the best ever)
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AaronForever said: skywalker said: Who cares if anyone is "giving up/quitting Prince"?
Prince better care. There aren't that many left... nah..hes got millionsa already..and folks will always go to se him live etc...and thgose who hate him are mostly computer community people. The rest dont know much about his shenanegins so he will always have a following to suport his healthy lifestyle. Hell..many people who are his biggest detractors STILL go to see him live. [This message was edited Fri Oct 11 11:30:55 PDT 2002 by rdhull] "Climb in my fur." | |
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rdhull said: AaronForever said: skywalker said: Who cares if anyone is "giving up/quitting Prince"?
Prince better care. There aren't that many left... nah..hes got millionsa already..and folks will always go to se him live etc...and thgose who hate him are mostly computer community people. The rest dont know much about his shenanegins so he will always have a following to suport his healthy lifestyle. Hell..many people who are his biggest detractors STILL go to see him live. [This message was edited Fri Oct 11 11:30:55 PDT 2002 by rdhull] yeah but can he tour forever? it must cost a shitload of $$$ to lunk around the world.He HAS to do something else besides tour to halt the alarming slump in sales. but what? | |
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Thecherryloon said: rdhull said: AaronForever said: skywalker said: Who cares if anyone is "giving up/quitting Prince"?
Prince better care. There aren't that many left... nah..hes got millionsa already..and folks will always go to se him live etc...and thgose who hate him are mostly computer community people. The rest dont know much about his shenanegins so he will always have a following to suport his healthy lifestyle. Hell..many people who are his biggest detractors STILL go to see him live. [This message was edited Fri Oct 11 11:30:55 PDT 2002 by rdhull] yeah but can he tour forever? it must cost a shitload of $$$ to lunk around the world.He HAS to do something else besides tour to halt the alarming slump in sales. but what? Well who tours forever? There are people 10 - 20+ years older than Prince who still tour, and some have a more extensive tour schedule than Prince has had over the last several years. This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes. | |
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Supernova said: Thecherryloon said: rdhull said: AaronForever said: skywalker said: Who cares if anyone is "giving up/quitting Prince"?
Prince better care. There aren't that many left... nah..hes got millionsa already..and folks will always go to se him live etc...and thgose who hate him are mostly computer community people. The rest dont know much about his shenanegins so he will always have a following to suport his healthy lifestyle. Hell..many people who are his biggest detractors STILL go to see him live. [This message was edited Fri Oct 11 11:30:55 PDT 2002 by rdhull] yeah but can he tour forever? it must cost a shitload of $$$ to lunk around the world.He HAS to do something else besides tour to halt the alarming slump in sales. but what? Well who tours forever? There are people 10 - 20+ years older than Prince who still tour, and some have a more extensive tour schedule than Prince has had over the last several years. i bet they don't have an electric bill like Paisley park's! (is that place paid for in full?) | |
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Thecherryloon said: Supernova said: Thecherryloon said: rdhull said: AaronForever said: skywalker said: Who cares if anyone is "giving up/quitting Prince"?
Prince better care. There aren't that many left... nah..hes got millionsa already..and folks will always go to se him live etc...and thgose who hate him are mostly computer community people. The rest dont know much about his shenanegins so he will always have a following to suport his healthy lifestyle. Hell..many people who are his biggest detractors STILL go to see him live. [This message was edited Fri Oct 11 11:30:55 PDT 2002 by rdhull] yeah but can he tour forever? it must cost a shitload of $$$ to lunk around the world.He HAS to do something else besides tour to halt the alarming slump in sales. but what? Well who tours forever? There are people 10 - 20+ years older than Prince who still tour, and some have a more extensive tour schedule than Prince has had over the last several years. i bet they don't have an electric bill like Paisley park's! (is that place paid for in full?) I don't know what their bills are like, but they have plenty of them. This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes. | |
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Prince is a wealthy man. Period/point blank. He earns millions a year through royalties and performance fees from ASCAP and catalog sells of his albums. I fhe didn't do anything, he would still be paid. You folks have been plotting his demise for years and the only thing consistent is that he still does whatever he wants. That is never/ever going to change | |
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One last thing. There was a major bidding war to administer his publishing in which Universal won the rights. Don't think for a second that his catalog didn't bring him an 8 figure advance.The Chevy commercial. That is a Universal thing exploiting his songs which is what they should be doing. You have remakes etc. He can sue all teh websites in the worldn and it wouldn't hamper his ability to earn income. You folks need to get realistic when you state he has only a few fans left. What is teh percentage of NPGMC folks at his shows compared to the casual fan. We are the minority in that sense. | |
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skywalker said: When people post to give us a dramatic story about why they are not into Prince anymore (not going to his show/buying albums/etc.) it seems like a silly thing to post. I mean hey if you don't like Prince anymore that's all well and good but I don't give a fuck. It's your life and it's not like your leaving a country or religion. Listen someone else and quit being so dramatic. He is only a rock star (albeit the best ever)
Wouldn't the opposite hold true? Who really cares if someone is madly in love with Prince, obsessed with his music, etc... | |
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lwr001 said: Prince is a wealthy man. Period/point blank. He earns millions a year through royalties and performance fees from ASCAP and catalog sells of his albums. I fhe didn't do anything, he would still be paid. You folks have been plotting his demise for years and the only thing consistent is that he still does whatever he wants. That is never/ever going to change
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lwr001 said: Prince is a wealthy man. Period/point blank. He earns millions a year through royalties and performance fees from ASCAP and catalog sells of his albums. I fhe didn't do anything, he would still be paid. You folks have been plotting his demise for years and the only thing consistent is that he still does whatever he wants. That is never/ever going to change
Why is he cutting corners on postage with NPGMC if hes rollin in dough? Why is he charging so much for his music if he's collecting more of the profits from it these days than he was with WB? Why is he requiring people to purchase all 4 CDs in advance? Why does the retail section have the same tired old merchandise thats been sitting in there for like 3 years? Why are his tours stripped down to almost nothing (I honestly dont think he can afford a big stadium tour anymore even if he wanted to)? If he's been raking in ridiculous amounts of money in royalties, then why in the hell was he complaining about Warner Brothers? Why are big acts like TLC going bankrupt? Prince is maintaining the superstar lifestyle he's become accustomed to by milking his remaining fans any way he can. From the looks of things, he's gonna get a reality check soon when a significantly smaller number of them sign up for year 3 of NPGMC. Plotting his demise? We've been supporting his ass for years, getting our hopes high, throwing money into his 'experiments in truth', then repeatedly being let down. Its been a long chain of events including the NPG Magazine, the Crystal Ball, NPG Retail, NPGMC, etc etc etc... Of course his concerts are going to seem packed and sold out when he goes from mega-sized venues to smaller places that barely hold 3000. The hit-n-run tour had alot of empty seats in Cleveland when I went. And if this board is any indication his devoted fanbase IS dwindling, just read the opinions expressed on here. Fans can do whatever they want too. Any many of them are deciding against throwing money into his projects any more if this is the thanks they get for it. [This message was edited Fri Oct 11 14:05:18 PDT 2002 by Tom] [This message was edited Fri Oct 11 14:09:44 PDT 2002 by Tom] | |
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pears are delicious...   I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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skywalker said: When people post to give us a dramatic story about why they are not into Prince anymore (not going to his show/buying albums/etc.) it seems like a silly thing to post. I mean hey if you don't like Prince anymore that's all well and good but I don't give a fuck. It's your life and it's not like your leaving a country or religion. Listen someone else and quit being so dramatic. He is only a rock star (albeit the best ever)
Prince has become the person he was rebelling against. If you dig everything he does, good for you but try to understand why some people do not. Thats all these threads ask of you, to listen to another point of view. All anyone can express on here is an opinion, you cant deny me of mine because its different to yours | |
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CalhounSq said: pears are delicious...
Yes I agree with you there, but are they are as nice as a nice red apple? These are the kind of questions which should dominate this board. ----------------------------------------- | |
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I'm not taking either side. When the npgmc-which Prince is in charge of-- starts messing up, members have a right to bitch. Hopefully they contact the source of their problem instead of just whining to hear themselves whine, but that's another issue(kudos to the orgers writing the npgmc with issues they feel are important)
The flip side is true, that this is a prince fan site(mostly) and people come here to express their enjoyment of his music or him-why come here if you can't stand the guy? Either way it doesn't matter, you have a choice to read or not read, post or not post- on any thread. The GD forum allows both fans and non-fans to get together and discuss any topic they wish. I personally wish the people who are 'giving up or quitting prince' would also write the npgmc(constructively) so P knows what he's doing (or not doing) is having an effect on his fan base. Does he really care if he loses his fans? Probably. Will he do anything about it? Probably not, but i still think he needs to be kept accountable for his actions, because they do affect people. | |
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Well... My opinions on this topic have already been expressed.
If you are tired, why the announcement.. You have his older CDs...You have concert tapes..SOTT.. Just remeber those days. I think there are some people who want to see if they can "herd" people away from Prince's new projects.. It's a low "Powertrip". These are the same people who accused Prince of trying to force fams into an "Elitist Cult" which only answers to him, and never questions him.. They are just as guilty as he's supposed to be.. Have you tried to disagree with some of these "Irrationals"? Most reasonable people here know who they are... [This message was edited Fri Oct 11 16:08:47 PDT 2002 by NGSPW7200] | |
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Thecherryloon said: rdhull said: AaronForever said: skywalker said: Who cares if anyone is "giving up/quitting Prince"?
Prince better care. There aren't that many left... nah..hes got millionsa already..and folks will always go to se him live etc...and thgose who hate him are mostly computer community people. The rest dont know much about his shenanegins so he will always have a following to suport his healthy lifestyle. Hell..many people who are his biggest detractors STILL go to see him live. [This message was edited Fri Oct 11 11:30:55 PDT 2002 by rdhull] yeah but can he tour forever? it must cost a shitload of $$$ to lunk around the world.He HAS to do something else besides tour to halt the alarming slump in sales. but what? Yes he can tour forever...that hit n run and even this ONA doesnt look like there is a real big overhead---have you seen the stage? No frills. Plus he can live like a king on proceeds from his back catalogue. "Climb in my fur." | |
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Tom said: skywalker said: When people post to give us a dramatic story about why they are not into Prince anymore (not going to his show/buying albums/etc.) it seems like a silly thing to post. I mean hey if you don't like Prince anymore that's all well and good but I don't give a fuck. It's your life and it's not like your leaving a country or religion. Listen someone else and quit being so dramatic. He is only a rock star (albeit the best ever)
Wouldn't the opposite hold true? Who really cares if someone is madly in love with Prince, obsessed with his music, etc... Thats just as annoying...see NATASHA for reference,. "Climb in my fur." | |
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Is "QUITTING" an artist a unique internet-related phenomena? Did we ever vebalize when we were annoyed by a particular artist's work (for whatever reason) or is this just unique to Prince? Is this only possible because we have BBs and email to have instantaneous exchange or is it due to our strong emotions about Prince?
Something to think about the next time you're wiping your ass!    [This message was edited Fri Oct 11 15:26:40 PDT 2002 by PFunkjazz] test | |
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Tom said: Prince is maintaining the superstar lifestyle he's become accustomed to by milking his remaining fans any way he can. [
All older huge acts do that..Stones, eagles, pink etc. Nuttin knew. They charge higher as their audience grows older etc. ,From the looks of things, he's gonna get a reality check soon when a significantly smaller number of them sign up for year 3 of NPGMC.
He knows the consequences Im sure...hes doing what he wants. If some hang then cool...and those who dont Im sure he realizes they will leave. And he is comfy with that. Plotting his demise? We've been supporting his ass for years, getting our hopes high, throwing money into his 'experiments in truth', then repeatedly being let down. Its been a long chain of events including the NPG Magazine, the Crystal Ball, NPG Retail, NPGMC, etc etc etc...
But nobody ever leaves him lol Of course his concerts are going to seem packed and sold out when he goes from mega-sized venues to smaller places that barely hold 3000. The hit-n-run tour had alot of empty seats in Cleveland when I went.
Thats because he isnt part of the machine anymore..if he stayed in it he would have had the advertising, the singles being played etc...and he would have wrote for commercial success...he has it the way he wants it now and he realizes he isnt going to be selling out stadiums, going top 5 etc. And if this board is any indication his devoted fanbase IS dwindling, just read the opinions expressed on here.
Sure there is dissention in the ranks...but all those complaiers still go to the shows, buy his output, buy boots etc...aint nobody going anywhere. The dwindling fans at shows are due to being indy. Just because there are some hypocritical idiots ( who complain but stil buy and support product..and Im not talking about quitting Prince and his music because broke asses cant afford it--that doesnt count) dont get it twisted. Fans can do whatever they want too. Any many of them are deciding against throwing money into his projects any more if this is the thanks they get for it.
Ive yet to hear of one fan whos given it all up due o p shenanegins...not one. Im not condoning some of Princes dubious practices...Immjust trying to be objective and see things for whats really going on. "Climb in my fur." | |
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PFunkjazz said: Is "QUITTING" an artist a unique internet-related phenomena? Did we ever vebalize when we were annoyed by a particular artist's work (for whatever reason) or is this just unique to Prince? Is this only possible because we have BBs and email to have instantaneous exchange or is it due to our strong emotions about Prince?
I think a lot of it has to do with Prince and his antics...and also the fact that lots of Princes fans are assholes anyways. I thought Stones fans were bad. "Climb in my fur." | |
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rdhull said: Sure there is dissention in the ranks...but all those complaiers still go to the shows, buy his output, buy boots etc...aint nobody going anywhere. The dwindling fans at shows are due to being indy. Just because there are some hypocritical idiots ( who complain but stil buy and support product..and Im not talking about quitting Prince and his music because broke asses cant afford it--that doesnt count) dont get it twisted.
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The reason I think (mainly myself) that we go around spouting off that we "aren't fans" anymore..is that maybe we DO CARE A LITTLE TOO MUCH!!
When I say I don't DIG PRINCE anymore..it hurts..somewhere deep..deep inside... don't cha just hate when that happens I mean...you put on some Prince track...KNOWING that his music will probably not move you anymore. That's the sad irony of it. The Prince.org Photo Album http://www.purplehouse.nl...ery/Jacqui | |
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Tom said: lwr001 said: Prince is a wealthy man. Period/point blank. He earns millions a year through royalties and performance fees from ASCAP and catalog sells of his albums. I fhe didn't do anything, he would still be paid. You folks have been plotting his demise for years and the only thing consistent is that he still does whatever he wants. That is never/ever going to change
Why is he cutting corners on postage with NPGMC if hes rollin in dough? Why is he charging so much for his music if he's collecting more of the profits from it these days than he was with WB? Why is he requiring people to purchase all 4 CDs in advance? Why does the retail section have the same tired old merchandise thats been sitting in there for like 3 years? Why are his tours stripped down to almost nothing (I honestly dont think he can afford a big stadium tour anymore even if he wanted to)? If he's been raking in ridiculous amounts of money in royalties, then why in the hell was he complaining about Warner Brothers? Why are big acts like TLC going bankrupt? Prince is maintaining the superstar lifestyle he's become accustomed to by milking his remaining fans any way he can. From the looks of things, he's gonna get a reality check soon when a significantly smaller number of them sign up for year 3 of NPGMC. Plotting his demise? We've been supporting his ass for years, getting our hopes high, throwing money into his 'experiments in truth', then repeatedly being let down. Its been a long chain of events including the NPG Magazine, the Crystal Ball, NPG Retail, NPGMC, etc etc etc... Of course his concerts are going to seem packed and sold out when he goes from mega-sized venues to smaller places that barely hold 3000. The hit-n-run tour had alot of empty seats in Cleveland when I went. And if this board is any indication his devoted fanbase IS dwindling, just read the opinions expressed on here. Fans can do whatever they want too. Any many of them are deciding against throwing money into his projects any more if this is the thanks they get for it. [This message was edited Fri Oct 11 14:05:18 PDT 2002 by Tom] [This message was edited Fri Oct 11 14:09:44 PDT 2002 by Tom] oh hell no...the ORg is NOT an accurate picture of all Prince fans around the world, period. don't even go there.  ***************************************************
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