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Printable of course prince is a rock star,he looks like a typical rock star (especialy in the 80's).
problem is with the ignorance of average music consuments. they see kiss or sexy mf video and they don't have a clue that he actualy plays mean guitar. if 28 08 2007 indigo aftershow ever see the light of the day it will be hailed as one of the hottest guitar peformances ever. everything prince played that nigh was transcedental./especially solo on calhoun square. | |
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Eye rember having seen the article in RS, and was shocked beyond recognition how Prince, 1 of the best if not the best of all guitarists, could have been so tactlessly left out! It outraged me, not even Santana was there!!! Prince should b # 1 in the least! There isn't anything he can't do on a guitar it is almost as if it were an xtention 2 heaven!!! All eye can say is that it will take years 4 people 2 comprehend how special Prince truly is, probably (and regretfully) it will not b in his lifetime. | |
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'PRINCE has topped a new U.S. poll to find the Most Underrated Guitarist. The editors of rock magazine Rolling Stone asked readers to list the top rockers who failed to make their 100 Greatest Guitarists Of All Time survey.'
Because Prince is an all rounder he typically gets ignored in these types of lists. Anyone who saw him at one of his '21 Nights In London' Aftershow gigs will tell you what an amazing guitarist he is. Its criminal that RS ignored him from the original 100 but not surprising; they have always undervalued Prince's contribution to music. RS need to realise Prince isn't just the most underrated guitarist, but the most underrated artist there's ever been, PERIOD. | |
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Kurt Cobain is infact the worst guitarist to have ever done his thang. anyone who appreciates music knows this. but on the otherhand WOOO YEAH PRINCE! 'bout time. | |
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Snap said: 'bout time
tho i'm sure more than a few ppl are wondering why he wasn't on the first list 
Prince rocks!  Prince makes his guitar gently weep - Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame (2004) [Edited 10/2/07 0:06am] Because you can't see any of his performaces on youtube!!! | |
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Goddammit!
Theo's snoring is distracting me from being able to read all of y'all posts! | |
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paisleypark4 said: THATS GREAT!!!!!
i heard Steve Vai is good too, but i know nothing about him Check out Vai when he was playing with Zappa!!  | |
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Here's the Rolling Stone Website link for this: You can add a comment to it.
http://www.rollingstone.c...uitarists/ cracknbush | |
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In October's Q magazine there's an article about the 10 most perfect songs (no Prince btw, and they include Pete Doherty in their songwriter feature)...
Howver, there is one section that reads.... "Image Is Crucial Each of the bands and artists on the list have an instantly recognisable sound that's all their own.When we listen to their songs, we engage not only with the sound but with the popular image of the performers too. As soon as you think of these bands or artists, we think of their sound and their personal history, and these things are inexplicably intertwined." Therefore, that is why Prince is never (ok maybe occasionally) rated highly on guitarist lists. Because he mixes the guitars in with everything else, releases non-guitar based tracks, and these are the ones which inform the general public about his skills. I do my bit by lending my (shhhh!) Trojan Horse aftershow (shhhh!) CD to people who reckon he can't play a guitar... that usually shuts 'em up! So, if Prince were to "do a Pearl Jam" and make everything available, he would rocket up the lists.... then tickets to his aftershows would be like gold dust!!!  We ain't from Hollywood, so you know it's all good | |
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Volitan said: Kurt Cobain and Neil Young are TERRIBLE.....
Kurt was in the list for his songwriting skills on the guitar., remember what they all say beatles songs are the easiest songs to play but the hardest to write. same with nirvana, so many try all fail. | |
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HenkL said: I open up the org's Top 100 bass player list:
Marcus Miller Jamaaladeen Tacuma Jaco Pastorius Bootsy Flea Marc King Stanley Clarke Larry Graham Verdine White James Alexander Victor Wooten Louis Johnson Bernard Edwards Marvin Isley Robert Bell Marshall "Rock" Jones Graham Maby Any more? James Jamerson? Ah, I see I'm not the first to add his name.  [Edited 10/4/07 4:58am] | |
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georgeguitar said: iloveannie said: I agree too Al Di Meola, Joe Satriani, John McLaughlin, Django Rheinhardt, Larry Carlton, PAT METHENY, Charlie Christian, Joe Bonamassa, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Julian Bream, Chet Atkins, Dave Wilcox, oh the list is endless. Yes Prince is very very good but solely as a guitarist he has a lot of peers. And I know he would agree in an instant 
Now as a musician... the only person on that list who is better than prince is chet atkins Better at playing what style exactly? Can't ever imagine hearing Prince play with the same passion for blues as SRV! Jazz better than Django?! OMG Technically better than Satch?!?! Flawless knowledge of the theory and execution as displayed by Metheny?! Like, wow! We're all entitled to our opinions but, jeez, that one's pushing it
Now should we base this debate on what we like to hear or what we know is more advanced? And also should we also check to see whether underrated does actually mean, or even imply, 'of less competence'? Anyway I'm sure there are a whole load of greater guitarists that would add and subtract names from the list. Let's not forget it was Hendrix who was enamoured with Jeff Beck and was incredulous at just how he got 'those sounds' from his guitar. Everyone has a peer no matter their greatness. | |
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Interesting comment about 'tone' mentioned above. SRV? Unique sound. Hendrix? Unique sound. Gilmour? Unique sound. May? Unique sound. EVH? Unique sound. This list often continues and from a guitarists point of view I know how much finding your own 'tone' matters. It's the holy grail for all/most of us really. No matter how much you spend or what gear you buy, finding 'that tone' is THE singularly hardest part of being a guitarist. It's what can make and break you every single time.
Oh and as for Calhoun Square on 28th? To my ears it sounds like a Jimi tribute. No more. Wonderful all the same but still a Jimi tribute. To my ears though
Hey, one last comment about people being blind to Prince's musicianship: many of you seem to be blinkered without realising it | |
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paisleypark4 said: THATS GREAT!!!!!
i heard Steve Vai is good too, but i know nothing about him The best guitar player walking on this planet. | |
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Christaro said: paisleypark4 said: THATS GREAT!!!!!
i heard Steve Vai is good too, but i know nothing about him The best guitar player walking on this planet. He is very very very good. Spaced out ideas on music creation mind you what with all the out of body stuff and fasting before creating a solo and that. I remember owning a huge poster of Passion and Warfare when I was a kid! For me Satch is the more melodic of the two. Don't like the 'competition' shredders though as they bore the shit out of me after a minute or two. And for those of you who know not of what we talk, Steve Vai got a job as Frank Zappa's 'stunt guitarist' after sending in complete transcriptions of Zappa's music. Now that is serious stuff. He talks of spending several hours bending the same note to find new ways of expressing it, slacking of the strings and placing them in odd places in order to find the limits of the instrument, that kinda thing. And rigid practice of 8 to 12 hours each day! This is the kind of dedication to the instrument that some of us here are talking about! Exploring its every nuance and taking it, like Jimi did with Leo's creation, way beyond what it's purpose was originally for. [Edited 10/4/07 5:36am] | |
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iloveannie said: Christaro said: The best guitar player walking on this planet. He is very very very good. Spaced out ideas on music creation mind you what with all the out of body stuff and fasting before creating a solo and that. I remember owning a huge poster of Passion and Warfare when I was a kid! For me Satch is the more melodic of the two. Don't like the 'competition' shredders though as they bore the shit out of me after a minute or two. I love Satriani too. I own every Satch cd. I agree: Satch is the one who's more melodic and accessible. But..... Vai is more original and creative, therefore he will always be my No.1. | |
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tashbootlegs said: well one of the solo's prince pull off right in front of my eyes @3121london blew the tits right aff me! never seen anything as slick sick funky rockin in all my days as a giger. anyway u can argue till ur blue in the face about who's the best but prince is the COOLEST nobody plays with his style and showmanship. anyway i can pull off a G with the best of them! or an A for that matter
Oh My Gosh! Really?!?! Are you okay?!?! Were you able to find them and could they glue them back on?
j/k | |
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As far as OVERrated guitarists go, Ace Freely of Kiss has to top that list. I think he is a truly terrible guitarist. | |
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prb said: Snap said: 'bout time
tho i'm sure more than a few ppl are wondering why he wasn't on the first list
Prince rocks! Prince makes his guitar gently weep - Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame (2004) [Edited 10/2/07 0:06am] hall of fame performance made me weep ... for joy
 prince congrats  he made me cry!, sob!, and bend down on my knees shout hallelujah! | |
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Neil Young and Kurt Cobain! Suck? R U Guys Serious?
As far as lead guitar i mean, sure they don't really put it down but as for rhythm guitar both genius in their own right, | |
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HenkL said: I open up the org's Top 100 bass player list:
Marcus Miller Jamaaladeen Tacuma Jaco Pastorius Bootsy Flea Marc King Stanley Clarke Larry Graham Verdine White James Alexander Victor Wooten Louis Johnson Bernard Edwards Marvin Isley Robert Bell Marshall "Rock" Jones Graham Maby Any more? um...Meshell Ndegeocello But you do acknowledge Louis Johnson | |
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Christaro said: iloveannie said: He is very very very good. Spaced out ideas on music creation mind you what with all the out of body stuff and fasting before creating a solo and that. I remember owning a huge poster of Passion and Warfare when I was a kid! For me Satch is the more melodic of the two. Don't like the 'competition' shredders though as they bore the shit out of me after a minute or two. I love Satriani too. I own every Satch cd. I agree: Satch is the one who's more melodic and accessible. But..... Vai is more original and creative, therefore he will always be my No.1. That's cool. For me Satch is #1. I love the Live in San Fran. DVD set. | |
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Actually it's Most Under-rated Guitarist.
Here's article and list 10/1/07, 4:32 pm EST
The Twenty-Five Most Underrated Guitarists Statistics show that the average rock fan spends roughly 4.7 hours per year arguing over who’s the greatest guitarist of all time (see: Rolling Stone’s list of the 100 Greatest Guitarists of All Time). We asked you who’s most criminally left out of those discussions — in other words, who are the most underrated guitarists ever? Here are the results: 1. Prince 2. Kurt Cobain 3. Neil Young 4. George Harrison 5. Ace Frehley 6. Mike McCready 7. Lindsey Buckingham 8. Mick Taylor 9. Nels Cline 10. Johnny Greenwood 11. Tom Verlaine 12. Carrie Brownstein 13. Mick Jones 14. Robert Fripp 15. Johnny Marr 16. John Frusciante 17. Izzy Stradlin 18. Daniel Johns 19. Vernon Reid 20. Robbie Robertson 21. Mick Ronson 22. Billy Corgan 23. Elliott Smith 24. Eddie Hazel 25. Phil Keaggy http://www.rollingstone.c...uitarists/ test | |
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BRAVO We make our own way to heaven everyday
"The only Love there is, is the Love we make" | |
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thebanishedone said: of course prince is a rock star,he looks like a typical rock star (especialy in the 80's).
Well I have never thought he looks typical anything. (Mind you I was only aged 1 - 11 in the 80's) | |
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iloveannie said: Christaro said: The best guitar player walking on this planet. He is very very very good. Spaced out ideas on music creation mind you what with all the out of body stuff and fasting before creating a solo and that. I remember owning a huge poster of Passion and Warfare when I was a kid! For me Satch is the more melodic of the two. Don't like the 'competition' shredders though as they bore the shit out of me after a minute or two. And for those of you who know not of what we talk, Steve Vai got a job as Frank Zappa's 'stunt guitarist' after sending in complete transcriptions of Zappa's music. Now that is serious stuff. He talks of spending several hours bending the same note to find new ways of expressing it, slacking of the strings and placing them in odd places in order to find the limits of the instrument, that kinda thing. And rigid practice of 8 to 12 hours each day! This is the kind of dedication to the instrument that some of us here are talking about! Exploring its every nuance and taking it, like Jimi did with Leo's creation, way beyond what it's purpose was originally for. [Edited 10/4/07 5:36am] I've seen vai a number of times, but at one gig in nottingham, he was dancing about, did a kind of prince scream, then looked a bit sheepish, and said 'i just want to be prince'! he was joking obviously, but i suspect he has a lot of respect for the guy! | |
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iloveannie said: Christaro said: The best guitar player walking on this planet. He is very very very good. Spaced out ideas on music creation mind you what with all the out of body stuff and fasting before creating a solo and that. I remember owning a huge poster of Passion and Warfare when I was a kid! For me Satch is the more melodic of the two. Don't like the 'competition' shredders though as they bore the shit out of me after a minute or two. And for those of you who know not of what we talk, Steve Vai got a job as Frank Zappa's 'stunt guitarist' after sending in complete transcriptions of Zappa's music. Now that is serious stuff. He talks of spending several hours bending the same note to find new ways of expressing it, slacking of the strings and placing them in odd places in order to find the limits of the instrument, that kinda thing. And rigid practice of 8 to 12 hours each day! This is the kind of dedication to the instrument that some of us here are talking about! Exploring its every nuance and taking it, like Jimi did with Leo's creation, way beyond what it's purpose was originally for. [Edited 10/4/07 5:36am] iloveannie, I've never been in more awe of a guitarist than after watching Satch on the live in SF DVD... he's doing every technique in the book... but it is all perfectly natural like he's breathing... amazing control of the whammy bar... harmonics, you name it... | |
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*claps for prince*  | |
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It's a travesty that he wasn't on the list in the first place. Who comes up with these list anyway? Peace and be wild! | |
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abigailj said: When people think of good guitarists are they not most likely to think of 'rock' music?
I think perhaps 'rock fans' (that is a generalisation I know sorry) don't see Prince as a 'rock star'. He isn't part of their genre, image etc. One example of this would be that recently a UK radio station called Kerrang, which is predominantly a rock station and is branded alongside a rock magazine, played a Prince tune and received complaints from listeners that Prince should not be played on the station. (I didn't hear this personally but my partner told me about it) Kerrang (from what I can remember) is a hard rock/metal magazine. I didn't know they had a radio show. Speaking of magazines, about a month ago I saw a UK-based rock guitar magazine called "Total Guitar". It's kind of like how Guitar World magazine is in the US, with equipment reviews, lessons, interviews, etc. Total Guitar had an article called "Why Prince Still Rocks" and followed that with a Prince-style funk guitar lesson showing different funk chord shapes and techniques! Prince is IMO a non conformist. He can play so many kinds of music and doesnt fit in anywhere specifically. He is unique. | |
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