I loved Prince before the internet.
I don't really care about this stuff, like someone else said I'm in it for the music BUT..... I don't know how my musical life would be if I hadn't heard Purple Music or Extralovable or the 1986 version of We Can Funk. I don't know if the Detroit birthday show was officially released but I saw it as a boot and I swear it ignites my love of his music all over again. I don't care about the pictures and I really don't care about grainy video from a cellphone but all this shit is distracting. If P had a killer album out right now, I probably couldn't be arsed to even make a comment on these threads. [Edited 9/28/07 21:35pm] | |
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wlcm2thdwn said: I love Prince dearly and have since before the Purple rain days but I must admit this trying to control everything is wearing on my nerves. I've tried to understand his reasons for his actions, but this latest thing with making photobucket delete all his pictures in peoples accounts is ridiculous! Yes i feel controlled AND censored.
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nurse said: shaomi said: Well, u know... i don't care about taking pics or having autographs, & even if i would, IMO Prince doesn't owe me either pics or autographs, as a matter of fact Prince doesn't owe me anything. Nor do i think it's a "privilege" 2 b a fan, 4 chrissakes, i dig his music & lyrics, i respect the guy but a "privilege", as if i had been allowed 2 b a fan by someone... It's my own choice... As 4 getting sued, well, i never have been & never will, i don't feel a need of any sort 2 put Prince videos or music on my website & though i'd b happy if Prince allowed his fans 2 do so, he does what he wants with his music. After all, i certainly wouldn't like people 2 reproduce my poems & stories without asking 1st if i'm ok with it... Prince might b a control freak but fact is that he delivers more music than almost anyone else in the industry, so i think that it's more than enough... & by the way, get a life | |
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I don't feel controlled becaaause...
I break the rules and do what I wanna do. I'm in love with God, that's the only way, cuz you an' I know we gotta die some day. Like to fight (your fans)? then your're a double drag fool... I really had to say that. But no, I dont feel controlled because if I REALLY want a pic or vid I can find it. This is the net. And autographs? Alot of people dont do that. Besides, he might not like those autograph whores that just get all they can from anyone and sell them. | |
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shaomi said: nurse said: Well, u know... i don't care about taking pics or having autographs, & even if i would, IMO Prince doesn't owe me either pics or autographs, as a matter of fact Prince doesn't owe me anything. Nor do i think it's a "privilege" 2 b a fan, 4 chrissakes, i dig his music & lyrics, i respect the guy but a "privilege", as if i had been allowed 2 b a fan by someone... It's my own choice... As 4 getting sued, well, i never have been & never will, i don't feel a need of any sort 2 put Prince videos or music on my website & though i'd b happy if Prince allowed his fans 2 do so, he does what he wants with his music. After all, i certainly wouldn't like people 2 reproduce my poems & stories without asking 1st if i'm ok with it... Prince might b a control freak but fact is that he delivers more music than almost anyone else in the industry, so i think that it's more than enough... & by the way, get a life Guess what-I have a life that I love I might just save your's one day. Stop trying to turn a good thread into a bad one-peace. | |
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ToraToraDreams said: I don't feel controlled becaaause...
I break the rules and do what I wanna do. I'm in love with God, that's the only way, cuz you an' I know we gotta die some day. Like to fight (your fans)? then your're a double drag fool... I really had to say that. But no, I dont feel controlled because if I REALLY want a pic or vid I can find it. This is the net. And autographs? Alot of people dont do that. Besides, he might not like those autograph whores that just get all they can from anyone and sell them. I can agree with your statement-the autograph thing may have been over the top, but it was just used as an example of the things that Prince fans never get | |
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shaomi said: nurse said: Well, u know... i don't care about taking pics or having autographs, & even if i would, IMO Prince doesn't owe me either pics or autographs, as a matter of fact Prince doesn't owe me anything. Nor do i think it's a "privilege" 2 b a fan, 4 chrissakes, i dig his music & lyrics, i respect the guy but a "privilege", as if i had been allowed 2 b a fan by someone... It's my own choice... As 4 getting sued, well, i never have been & never will, i don't feel a need of any sort 2 put Prince videos or music on my website & though i'd b happy if Prince allowed his fans 2 do so, he does what he wants with his music. After all, i certainly wouldn't like people 2 reproduce my poems & stories without asking 1st if i'm ok with it... Prince might b a control freak but fact is that he delivers more music than almost anyone else in the industry, so i think that it's more than enough... & by the way, get a life | |
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Lothan said: I loved Prince before the internet.
I don't really care about this stuff, like someone else said I'm in it for the music BUT..... I don't know how my musical life would be if I hadn't heard Purple Music or Extralovable or the 1986 version of We Can Funk. I don't know if the Detroit birthday show was officially released but I saw it as a boot and I swear it ignites my love of his music all over again. I don't care about the pictures and I really don't care about grainy video from a cellphone but all this shit is distracting. If P had a killer album out right now, I probably couldn't be arsed to even make a comment on these threads. [Edited 9/28/07 21:35pm] I was a fan before the internet also and I'll continue to be one. I'm kinda like you in that I find this whole photobucket thing distracting along with the many other things that have been done. | |
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Lothan said: shaomi said: Well, u know... i don't care about taking pics or having autographs, & even if i would, IMO Prince doesn't owe me either pics or autographs, as a matter of fact Prince doesn't owe me anything. Nor do i think it's a "privilege" 2 b a fan, 4 chrissakes, i dig his music & lyrics, i respect the guy but a "privilege", as if i had been allowed 2 b a fan by someone... It's my own choice... As 4 getting sued, well, i never have been & never will, i don't feel a need of any sort 2 put Prince videos or music on my website & though i'd b happy if Prince allowed his fans 2 do so, he does what he wants with his music. After all, i certainly wouldn't like people 2 reproduce my poems & stories without asking 1st if i'm ok with it... Prince might b a control freak but fact is that he delivers more music than almost anyone else in the industry, so i think that it's more than enough... & by the way, get a life | |
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I knew this line would provoke reactions. No offence meant, though It's not about agreeing with me, it's about what the fuck r u talkin' bout "controlled or censeored", 4 chrissake! Do u know what it means 2 b controlled or censored? Go live in North Korrea or Myanmar! & why does so many people think that Prince owes them anything? I can understand that some things piss u off a bit, but not up 2 the point of using such words. This being said i was not tryin' 2 make a good thread a bad one, i was saying what i think & ain't that what threads r about? Peace 2 y'all too, i'm cool | |
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shaomi said: I knew this line would provoke reactions. No offence meant, though It's not about agreeing with me, it's about what the fuck r u talkin' bout "controlled or censeored", 4 chrissake! Do u know what it means 2 b controlled or censored? Go live in North Korrea or Myanmar! & why does so many people think that Prince owes them anything? I can understand that some things piss u off a bit, but not up 2 the point of using such words. This being said i was not tryin' 2 make a good thread a bad one, i was saying what i think & ain't that what threads r about? Peace 2 y'all too, i'm cool How old are you really? How in the hell can you even put Prince and living in North Korea in the same sentence-that makes no sense whatsoever. The two subjects belong no where near each other-kids!!! For that matter I asked your opinion in the original question-it's obvious that you don't have one and just wanted to stir up trouble-truly sad. | |
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Prince...controlling and censoring me!??? That's a laugh!!! Being his fan is one of the only parts of my life that is stress and worry free...something I do that's just for me! I have a very fast paced high stress job, and the rest of the time I'm too busy to worry about old videos, youtube and the like. I'll gladly take what shows I can get to and any CD's he's willing to share. He gets it! That's why the ladies love him... | |
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nurse said: shaomi said: I knew this line would provoke reactions. No offence meant, though It's not about agreeing with me, it's about what the fuck r u talkin' bout "controlled or censeored", 4 chrissake! Do u know what it means 2 b controlled or censored? Go live in North Korrea or Myanmar! & why does so many people think that Prince owes them anything? I can understand that some things piss u off a bit, but not up 2 the point of using such words. This being said i was not tryin' 2 make a good thread a bad one, i was saying what i think & ain't that what threads r about? Peace 2 y'all too, i'm cool How old are you really? How in the hell can you even put Prince and living in North Korea in the same sentence-that makes no sense whatsoever. The two subjects belong no where near each other-kids!!! For that matter I asked your opinion in the original question-it's obvious that you don't have one and just wanted to stir up trouble-truly sad. Now that's paranoia | |
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Obsidian said: Prince...controlling and censoring me!??? That's a laugh!!! Being his fan is one of the only parts of my life that is stress and worry free...something I do that's just for me! I have a very fast paced high stress job, and the rest of the time I'm too busy to worry about old videos, youtube and the like. I'll gladly take what shows I can get to and any CD's he's willing to share.
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Honestly, I haven't been affected personally. I still have the CD's I bought, a few pics, the Purple Rain movie, and I love the clip of the concert on the 3121 site and any videos I can watch. The only thing that I was a little disappointed in was the removal of some videos from certain sites.
Only until the day that Prince personally comes to my home and demands I give him back his music, I'm cool! [Edited 9/29/07 10:55am] | |
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nurse said: as a Prince fan? Those may not be the right terms, but what I'm sayin' is do you or are you getting tired of being told what you can and cannot do because your his fan? It is a privilege to be his fan, but I wonder sometimes if it's worth it-I mean you can't take photos of him, can't get an autograph, not to mention he'll sue your ass in a heartbeat. Is it all worth it? Tell me why?
I believe its worth it to still be a fan. We willingly subscribe to being fans and we all have the ability to turn it on or off at any time. I like other musicians too, just not as much...but then, Prince is original. The fact that he has "rules" about how he wants to be treated is no different than the rest of us. (The specifics might be different, but the fact that there are rules is not.) Many celebs have "rules" about photographs and autographs, etc. I think this is more about protecting themselves than it is about turning off their supporters. But in a way, aren't these "quirks" the reason we love Prince so much? | |
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Sho Nuf right!
shaomi said: Obsidian said: Prince...controlling and censoring me!??? That's a laugh!!! Being his fan is one of the only parts of my life that is stress and worry free...something I do that's just for me! I have a very fast paced high stress job, and the rest of the time I'm too busy to worry about old videos, youtube and the like. I'll gladly take what shows I can get to and any CD's he's willing to share.
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No, I don't think Prince realises there's no one way to control a whole bunch of fans that spread right round the world.
He also doesn't understand that the internet is 100000 times bigger than he is and whereever he bans one video, it'll pop up somewhere else. If he'd like to end up with as little fanbase as possible by the time his career and life are up, he can continue this whole "I hate having fans" persona if he wants. I'll just keep on "obtaining" his music in the meantime SORRY FOR LIKING YOUR MUSIC PRINCE, NEVER KNEW BEING A FAN OF YOURS WOULD COME WITH A PRICE - I MEAN - A LAWSUIT! | |
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I'm opening a file titled 'The Sherpy Nerp Nerps' and you're first in it.
purplesweat said: SORRY FOR LIKING YOUR MUSIC PRINCE, NEVER KNEW BEING A FAN OF YOURS WOULD COME WITH A PRICE - I MEAN - A LAWSUIT! [Edited 9/29/07 3:06am] | |
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nurse said: ejnbmore said: It will always be worth it to me since I don't want his picture or to have his autograph. He is the epitome of an true artist in every since of the word. I am content to just appreciate his work. I try not to think about it monetarily, but this year I spent/invested a pretty penny, however I'm sure what I received is intangible and priceless. I feel like I'm lucky that he is so generous with his art. I don't think it is my right to dictate how he shares.
I've always appreciated his genius and always will , but it is all about money when you think about it. We invest money in Prince-we enjoy his art, but that's all we ever get. Not a thank you to all my fans-not anything. I have also invested quite a penny in Prince things over the years-that was my choice. But is it really all worth it though? Oh yeah it's worth it. If I could bottle the pure joy, sexual energy, and outright sense of satisfaction his music inspires, I would be so rich. I can honestly say my life would be less rich without those inspirations. Does value equal worth??? | |
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nurse said: as a Prince fan? Those may not be the right terms, but what I'm sayin' is do you or are you getting tired of being told what you can and cannot do because your his fan? It is a privilege to be his fan, but I wonder sometimes if it's worth it-I mean you can't take photos of him, can't get an autograph, not to mention he'll sue your ass in a heartbeat. Is it all worth it? Tell me why?
All I want is his music and live performances....I dont want his autograph nor do I want take his picture. It's all about the music 4 me..... Stand Up! Everybody, this is your life!
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thepope2the9s said: All I want is his music and live performances....I dont want his autograph nor do I want take his picture. It's all about the music 4 me..... I find these days that I only really seem to care about the music. I've seen most of his videos/interviews before, so I don't need to see them again. I'd feel priviledged and blessed if given the chance to see him in concert or in person... but if I don't get that chance, that's okay too. Admiring from afar keeps me sane... for the most part. Coming here is insanity itself. had 2 run away... pride was 2 strong. It started raining, baby, the birds were gone | |
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By the way, did anyone see the link on the 3121 website this morning that links to the Mark Twain copyrights battle with the publishers and the copyright laws? That was pretty interesting! [Edited 9/29/07 11:02am] | |
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wildgoldenhoney said: By the way, did anyone see the link on the 3121 website this morning that links to the Mark Twain copyrights battle with the publishers and the copyright laws? That was pretty interesting!
See, now he is just being silly... Space for sale... | |
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nurse said: as a Prince fan? Those may not be the right terms, but what I'm sayin' is do you or are you getting tired of being told what you can and cannot do because your his fan? It is a privilege to be his fan, but I wonder sometimes if it's worth it-I mean you can't take photos of him, can't get an autograph, not to mention he'll sue your ass in a heartbeat. Is it all worth it? Tell me why?
No cause im here for Princes Music Nothing more, I respect him has a Musician i dont know him personally therefore i dont know his reasons behind his decisions only he knows and i cant judge him cause i dont know him. If for instance if someone took a photo of me without my permission i would smack em | |
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Like others have said Prince has his views, I've got mine. They don't have to agree for me to appreciate the musician. Some of my favorite artists seem to be fucked up as people (poor, poor Amy) but whatever, I still love the art.
Moreover, he's made no secret that he's controlling when it comes to his image or his art. Although it may suck, it doesn't surprise me when he acts like he's always acted. . [Edited 9/29/07 14:44pm] "What kind of fuck ending is that?" | |
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You only have the right to purchase his music, movies/videos, and concert tickets through legal channels. That's it. You don't have the right to post videos online or distribute copyrighted photos.
If you feel controlled or censored, ask yourself what the cause of that is. Keep in mind that there is a reason for Prince's actions on the Internet; we just don't know what they are yet. Perhaps there is a video anthology in the works, and he is raising interest/demand for that. Just an example; my point is we don't know. | |
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sosgemini said: great question and thread.
Do i feel controlled or censored? No, but I do get annoyed that he seems more interested in coming up with creative solutions for controlling his image then he does creating his art. Not that there is anything wrong with controlling ones image...I just wish the art was just as creative as giving away a cd or dvd via a newspaper. You took the words out of my mouth. | |
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I am just speechless. I never in a million years would have thought that Prince had the power to change so much on the internet. I have truly underestimated that man! [Edited 9/29/07 18:44pm] | |
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