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Reply #60 posted 10/01/07 1:31pm

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bunnyhoney said:

It absolutely drives me nuts to hear him change the lyrics of his own songs during a concert. I’ve been a huge fans for 20+ years but this whole Jehovah Witness/Squeaky Clean Prince is killing me!! I’ve been listening to the London 02 Arena Finale Live Concert and he did it 4 times (Irresistible Bitch, Darling Nikki, Erotic City, and DMSR) at least during DMSR he sang (girl it aint no use, you might as well get loose, so work that body like you “WANT SOME MORE”) Come on!! He wouldn’t even attempt the Lyrics to Darling Nikki, Erotic City or Irresistible Bitch he would start and then say “Awwww…I can’t sing that”. What’s next ? rereleasing albums with revised lyrics? This REALLY bothers me!!!!
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He did sing Irresistible Bitch, the first verse anyway.

Of course I hear what you're saying, but I've always liked the fact that Prince does exactly what he wants and doesn't pander to critics or his fans. He's got the balls to follow his own thing no matter what and all in all I think that's pretty cool.

I heard him sing all that stuff back in the day anyway. The man's nearly 50 - nothing wrong with growing old with a little old fashioned grace.
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Reply #61 posted 10/01/07 2:08pm

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vivid said:

bunnyhoney said:

It absolutely drives me nuts to hear him change the lyrics of his own songs during a concert. I’ve been a huge fans for 20+ years but this whole Jehovah Witness/Squeaky Clean Prince is killing me!! I’ve been listening to the London 02 Arena Finale Live Concert and he did it 4 times (Irresistible Bitch, Darling Nikki, Erotic City, and DMSR) at least during DMSR he sang (girl it aint no use, you might as well get loose, so work that body like you “WANT SOME MORE”) Come on!! He wouldn’t even attempt the Lyrics to Darling Nikki, Erotic City or Irresistible Bitch he would start and then say “Awwww…I can’t sing that”. What’s next ? rereleasing albums with revised lyrics? This REALLY bothers me!!!!
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He did sing Irresistible Bitch, the first verse anyway.

Of course I hear what you're saying, but I've always liked the fact that Prince does exactly what he wants and doesn't pander to critics or his fans. He's got the balls to follow his own thing no matter what and all in all I think that's pretty cool.

I heard him sing all that stuff back in the day anyway. The man's nearly 50 - nothing wrong with growing old with a little old fashioned grace.


No, i hear ya too. i've been a big fan since 81' and I've heard him sing all of it too. i think what bothers me is that he almost comes off like what he did was bad or that he's embarrased by it. this is gonna sound corny but most of his albums are like the soundtrack of my life. his music has taught me allot - how to act, talk, dress, dance, romance, think, etc....i dnt know why but him 'censoring" himself really bothers me. there's NO way ha can just turn that off!!
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Reply #62 posted 10/01/07 10:32pm

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bunnyhoney said:

vivid said:




He did sing Irresistible Bitch, the first verse anyway.

Of course I hear what you're saying, but I've always liked the fact that Prince does exactly what he wants and doesn't pander to critics or his fans. He's got the balls to follow his own thing no matter what and all in all I think that's pretty cool.

I heard him sing all that stuff back in the day anyway. The man's nearly 50 - nothing wrong with growing old with a little old fashioned grace.


No, i hear ya too. i've been a big fan since 81' and I've heard him sing all of it too. i think what bothers me is that he almost comes off like what he did was bad or that he's embarrased by it. this is gonna sound corny but most of his albums are like the soundtrack of my life. his music has taught me allot - how to act, talk, dress, dance, romance, think, etc....i dnt know why but him 'censoring" himself really bothers me. there's NO way ha can just turn that off!!


He hasn't turned anything off. It's there, but it's more subtle now. Like I said before, the current climate of music & media has lost all concept of the subtle approach. If Prince wants 2 bring this element in2 his life & the fans/media etc. I would say he is perfectly entitled 2, & in many ways I like it.
I was sitting in a room with a bunch of 17-19 year old girls recently when the Black Sweat video came on & heard them all say that it was the sexiest thing they had seen, regardless of the fact that he is bordering 50. It goes to show, that in a world that is overly bombarded with overly explicit lyrics & images, even the younger generation apreciate the unspoken yet potent sexiness that Prince is bringing to the table now.
We change, fashions change & the world changes. Get over it.
It is a little selfish to expect anybody to stay in a place that they don't want to be, just because certain people prefer it that way.
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Reply #63 posted 10/02/07 2:28am

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bunnyhoney said:



No, i hear ya too. i've been a big fan since 81' and I've heard him sing all of it too. i think what bothers me is that he almost comes off like what he did was bad or that he's embarrased by it. this is gonna sound corny but most of his albums are like the soundtrack of my life. his music has taught me allot - how to act, talk, dress, dance, romance, think, etc....i dnt know why but him 'censoring" himself really bothers me. there's NO way ha can just turn that off!!


He hasn't turned anything off. It's there, but it's more subtle now. Like I said before, the current climate of music & media has lost all concept of the subtle approach. If Prince wants 2 bring this element in2 his life & the fans/media etc. I would say he is perfectly entitled 2, & in many ways I like it.
I was sitting in a room with a bunch of 17-19 year old girls recently when the Black Sweat video came on & heard them all say that it was the sexiest thing they had seen, regardless of the fact that he is bordering 50. It goes to show, that in a world that is overly bombarded with overly explicit lyrics & images, even the younger generation apreciate the unspoken yet potent sexiness that Prince is bringing to the table now.
We change, fashions change & the world changes. Get over it.
It is a little selfish to expect anybody to stay in a place that they don't want to be, just because certain people prefer it that way.


you're obviously not picking up what i'm putting down. i'm not comparing old vs. new. i think what he's doing now is genius and sexy (Black Sweat - Perfect example) I justy feel that he thinks that some of his past work is "bad" somehow just because somebody told him it was (or that he read it). you can tell that eViL Prince is just under the surface by the way he skirts and flirts. Personally, i've been watching him evolve for the past 25+ years - I love it! I love the changes (except the Kirky K years LOL) Just dont turn your back on your past art. Dont look back and say from this point on - these songs are "good" and these "bad". Each song is a wrung on your ladder of sucess and he should take pride in every gem!!
[Edited 10/2/07 2:30am]
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Reply #64 posted 10/02/07 9:13am

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djenerate said:



He hasn't turned anything off. It's there, but it's more subtle now. Like I said before, the current climate of music & media has lost all concept of the subtle approach. If Prince wants 2 bring this element in2 his life & the fans/media etc. I would say he is perfectly entitled 2, & in many ways I like it.
I was sitting in a room with a bunch of 17-19 year old girls recently when the Black Sweat video came on & heard them all say that it was the sexiest thing they had seen, regardless of the fact that he is bordering 50. It goes to show, that in a world that is overly bombarded with overly explicit lyrics & images, even the younger generation apreciate the unspoken yet potent sexiness that Prince is bringing to the table now.
We change, fashions change & the world changes. Get over it.
It is a little selfish to expect anybody to stay in a place that they don't want to be, just because certain people prefer it that way.


you're obviously not picking up what i'm putting down. i'm not comparing old vs. new. i think what he's doing now is genius and sexy (Black Sweat - Perfect example) I justy feel that he thinks that some of his past work is "bad" somehow just because somebody told him it was (or that he read it). you can tell that eViL Prince is just under the surface by the way he skirts and flirts. Personally, i've been watching him evolve for the past 25+ years - I love it! I love the changes (except the Kirky K years LOL) Just dont turn your back on your past art. Dont look back and say from this point on - these songs are "good" and these "bad". Each song is a wrung on your ladder of sucess and he should take pride in every gem!!
[Edited 10/2/07 2:30am]


But he himself only recently said he does not regret a single song from his entire career, saying they all represent something very potently relevant for that time in his life. Clearly some songs continue to resonate in the same way such as Purple Rain. & I am pretty sure he doesn't regard any songs as "bad" given that he played riffs from "head", featured "erotic city", "darling nikki" & "irresistable bitch" to name a few in his recent concerts. I think there is probably an element that he knows everyone is waiting on his to get explicit & he teases the audience with it. He clearly has fun with those tracks and doesn't make out any serious dislike or disagreement with them. He just choses to avoid certain lyrics. It's all playful. His career has evolved like we all do.
For instance, school boys (myself included) may have pinched girls asses & wolf whistled at attractive girls when in school. Having grown up, such habits no longer feel right or seem appropriate. Such outward signals of sexual potency are no longer necessary. That's not to say that I won't ravenously devour a partner behind closed doors, but I wouldn't need to display that behaviour in public. I see this move as something very similar.
It does seem completely rational & natural to me.
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Reply #65 posted 10/03/07 1:07am

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And as for those parents who wanted to share their love of Our Hero with their offspring, but at the same time shelter them from the no-no words? Knock it off. It's stupid. You want your kids to know Prince? Then show them everything there is, not just the cutesy or religious side of his work.


lol

Oh right. Any decent parent protects his or her offspring, in his or her own home! There are subject matters out there that are NOT for children.

Your argument is a bit like saying a parent should expose a child to an actor's entire oeuvre, to the R-rated films they have starred in as well as the PG or G-rated ones... or the parents somehow lack integrity.

You know I love you, meow, but sometimes... giggle

Why not?

I could see the argument if Prince had made his career singing about bitches and hoes and drive-by shootings and beating the shit out of people, but he hasn't. Prince may have gotten outright nasty sometimes, but his work was rarely if ever disrespectful or violent, and the rare times it was it was generally done to prove a point. The point of contention seems to be the sexual content, but honestly. A lot of the same parents who are getting all uppity about Prince singing about doing the nasty are the same parents who let their kids watch Pirates of the Caribbean and just bought them Halo 3. That's not a lack of integrity, but it does smack of questionable values when sex is deemed X times more horrific and unacceptable than violence.

I understand that parents want to protect their kids, but at the same time I think kids are sheltered way too much. How can you possibly introduce anybody of any age to what Prince and his musical legacy is if all you show them is the G rated material? They'll end up thinking Prince is nothing but some fluffy, sappy bitch with weird ideas about religion (not that he isn't that too, but...lol) What point is there in even attempting to share your love of the little man with your offpsring if they'll only get the sanitized; that is, the incomplete version? Say what you want about where Prince is now musically, but he wouldn't be there if it wasn't for everything he made before.
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Reply #66 posted 10/03/07 1:11am

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bunnyhoney said:

vivid said:




He did sing Irresistible Bitch, the first verse anyway.

Of course I hear what you're saying, but I've always liked the fact that Prince does exactly what he wants and doesn't pander to critics or his fans. He's got the balls to follow his own thing no matter what and all in all I think that's pretty cool.

I heard him sing all that stuff back in the day anyway. The man's nearly 50 - nothing wrong with growing old with a little old fashioned grace.


No, i hear ya too. i've been a big fan since 81' and I've heard him sing all of it too. i think what bothers me is that he almost comes off like what he did was bad or that he's embarrased by it. this is gonna sound corny but most of his albums are like the soundtrack of my life. his music has taught me allot - how to act, talk, dress, dance, romance, think, etc....i dnt know why but him 'censoring" himself really bothers me. there's NO way ha can just turn that off!!


nod That's my problem with the whole issue too. Not that he's stopped some of his old ways (at least in public) but that he seems embarassed or ashamed by his past and his past work. IMO I don't see anything to be ashamed of.
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Reply #67 posted 10/03/07 2:01am

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bunnyhoney said:



No, i hear ya too. i've been a big fan since 81' and I've heard him sing all of it too. i think what bothers me is that he almost comes off like what he did was bad or that he's embarrased by it. this is gonna sound corny but most of his albums are like the soundtrack of my life. his music has taught me allot - how to act, talk, dress, dance, romance, think, etc....i dnt know why but him 'censoring" himself really bothers me. there's NO way ha can just turn that off!!


nod That's my problem with the whole issue too. Not that he's stopped some of his old ways (at least in public) but that he seems embarassed or ashamed by his past and his past work. IMO I don't see anything to be ashamed of.


I quite agree that there is nothing to be ashamed of. But if you attended any of the London shows (I live very locally to the o2 so was fortunate enough to attend 12 dates & aftershows) you would know that he is not at all ashamed of his past. He he makes outwardly playful references to the censorship he uses on his tracks. If he was shamed of his past, he would have ditched everything pre-2000 & played a strict "rainbow children", "news" "planet earth" set.
Instead, when playing the "sampling" section of his show, he would laugh & smile whilst dropping in bits of "Darling Nikki" & singing "Irresistable Bitch" right up until the curse word & then laughing & teasing us with the next track.

He knows that we all think he is taking he is taking himself too seriously with being squeeky clean, & I think he has great fun in playing up to that role in an almost comic way. I think that Prince has evolved into a more all round entertainer. Having watched his concert shows from back in 1980, it is very clear now that he has evolved. Back in the early 80's he was very moody looking and serious. All that has changed to this day is he has toned down the language & appears to be just having the greatest laugh on stage. Anybody present at the aftershow where he sang about his cock-eyed, three handed lover will be able to vouch for the fact that a new comedic facet of Prince has emerged recently. Let's not look at what is no more & focus on what is to be.
[Edited 10/3/07 2:02am]
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Reply #68 posted 10/03/07 2:39am

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i hated when prince was not himself at the grammies performance with beyonce. he looked like scared or too conservative and boring mature.

i loved him at the RNRHOF performance tho'
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Reply #69 posted 10/03/07 12:14pm

Heiress

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Heiress said:



lol

Oh right. Any decent parent protects his or her offspring, in his or her own home! There are subject matters out there that are NOT for children.

Your argument is a bit like saying a parent should expose a child to an actor's entire oeuvre, to the R-rated films they have starred in as well as the PG or G-rated ones... or the parents somehow lack integrity.

You know I love you, meow, but sometimes... giggle

Why not?

I could see the argument if Prince had made his career singing about bitches and hoes and drive-by shootings and beating the shit out of people, but he hasn't. Prince may have gotten outright nasty sometimes, but his work was rarely if ever disrespectful or violent, and the rare times it was it was generally done to prove a point. The point of contention seems to be the sexual content, but honestly. A lot of the same parents who are getting all uppity about Prince singing about doing the nasty are the same parents who let their kids watch Pirates of the Caribbean and just bought them Halo 3. That's not a lack of integrity, but it does smack of questionable values when sex is deemed X times more horrific and unacceptable than violence.

I understand that parents want to protect their kids, but at the same time I think kids are sheltered way too much. How can you possibly introduce anybody of any age to what Prince and his musical legacy is if all you show them is the G rated material? They'll end up thinking Prince is nothing but some fluffy, sappy bitch with weird ideas about religion (not that he isn't that too, but...lol) What point is there in even attempting to share your love of the little man with your offpsring if they'll only get the sanitized; that is, the incomplete version? Say what you want about where Prince is now musically, but he wouldn't be there if it wasn't for everything he made before.


Hey, there's a time and an age for everything.

I don't think she can handle all that stuff at age four. Right now she likes stuff like Wedding Feast; let's not push it. lol
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Reply #70 posted 10/03/07 6:50pm

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PleasurePrinciple said:

bunnyhoney said:



Serious as a Housequake - JILL!!!

the fudge? as Prince would say


hah!
surviving on the thought of loving you, it's just like the water
I ain't felt this way in years...
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Reply #71 posted 10/04/07 1:27am

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djenerate said:

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nod That's my problem with the whole issue too. Not that he's stopped some of his old ways (at least in public) but that he seems embarassed or ashamed by his past and his past work. IMO I don't see anything to be ashamed of.


I quite agree that there is nothing to be ashamed of. But if you attended any of the London shows (I live very locally to the o2 so was fortunate enough to attend 12 dates & aftershows) you would know that he is not at all ashamed of his past. He he makes outwardly playful references to the censorship he uses on his tracks. If he was shamed of his past, he would have ditched everything pre-2000 & played a strict "rainbow children", "news" "planet earth" set.
Instead, when playing the "sampling" section of his show, he would laugh & smile whilst dropping in bits of "Darling Nikki" & singing "Irresistable Bitch" right up until the curse word & then laughing & teasing us with the next track.

He knows that we all think he is taking he is taking himself too seriously with being squeeky clean, & I think he has great fun in playing up to that role in an almost comic way. I think that Prince has evolved into a more all round entertainer. Having watched his concert shows from back in 1980, it is very clear now that he has evolved. Back in the early 80's he was very moody looking and serious. All that has changed to this day is he has toned down the language & appears to be just having the greatest laugh on stage. Anybody present at the aftershow where he sang about his cock-eyed, three handed lover will be able to vouch for the fact that a new comedic facet of Prince has emerged recently. Let's not look at what is no more & focus on what is to be.
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If he didn't think there was something wrong with what he'd been doing before, why would he decide it needed to stop?


Or maybe the better question is, why's he feel the need to be an annoying prat about it? If he's not going to sing something, then he just shouldn't sing it. And if he wants to sing those songs, then why won't he just do it?
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Reply #72 posted 10/04/07 1:31am

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Why not?

I could see the argument if Prince had made his career singing about bitches and hoes and drive-by shootings and beating the shit out of people, but he hasn't. Prince may have gotten outright nasty sometimes, but his work was rarely if ever disrespectful or violent, and the rare times it was it was generally done to prove a point. The point of contention seems to be the sexual content, but honestly. A lot of the same parents who are getting all uppity about Prince singing about doing the nasty are the same parents who let their kids watch Pirates of the Caribbean and just bought them Halo 3. That's not a lack of integrity, but it does smack of questionable values when sex is deemed X times more horrific and unacceptable than violence.

I understand that parents want to protect their kids, but at the same time I think kids are sheltered way too much. How can you possibly introduce anybody of any age to what Prince and his musical legacy is if all you show them is the G rated material? They'll end up thinking Prince is nothing but some fluffy, sappy bitch with weird ideas about religion (not that he isn't that too, but...lol) What point is there in even attempting to share your love of the little man with your offpsring if they'll only get the sanitized; that is, the incomplete version? Say what you want about where Prince is now musically, but he wouldn't be there if it wasn't for everything he made before.


Hey, there's a time and an age for everything.

I don't think she can handle all that stuff at age four. Right now she likes stuff like Wedding Feast; let's not push it. lol


Fair enough. I did't realize yours was only 4. For some reason I was thinking closer to 8. I really was speaking more in generalities about people sheltering their kids though.

Just consider this: Most adults don't pay attention to lyrics. How much more is a kid going to pay attention to? lol
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Reply #73 posted 10/04/07 2:42am

Heiress

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Hey, there's a time and an age for everything.

I don't think she can handle all that stuff at age four. Right now she likes stuff like Wedding Feast; let's not push it. lol


Fair enough. I did't realize yours was only 4. For some reason I was thinking closer to 8. I really was speaking more in generalities about people sheltering their kids though.

Just consider this: Most adults don't pay attention to lyrics. How much more is a kid going to pay attention to? lol


Well, we sing in this household (as in, professionally), so we do pay close attention to lyrics...

My daughter likes to hang out with me during practice, and sings right along.

So naturally, in the car or the living room she does too. When there's a lyric or word she doesn't understand, she asks me about it.
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Reply #74 posted 10/05/07 2:40am

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djenerate said:



I quite agree that there is nothing to be ashamed of. But if you attended any of the London shows (I live very locally to the o2 so was fortunate enough to attend 12 dates & aftershows) you would know that he is not at all ashamed of his past. He he makes outwardly playful references to the censorship he uses on his tracks. If he was shamed of his past, he would have ditched everything pre-2000 & played a strict "rainbow children", "news" "planet earth" set.
Instead, when playing the "sampling" section of his show, he would laugh & smile whilst dropping in bits of "Darling Nikki" & singing "Irresistable Bitch" right up until the curse word & then laughing & teasing us with the next track.

He knows that we all think he is taking he is taking himself too seriously with being squeeky clean, & I think he has great fun in playing up to that role in an almost comic way. I think that Prince has evolved into a more all round entertainer. Having watched his concert shows from back in 1980, it is very clear now that he has evolved. Back in the early 80's he was very moody looking and serious. All that has changed to this day is he has toned down the language & appears to be just having the greatest laugh on stage. Anybody present at the aftershow where he sang about his cock-eyed, three handed lover will be able to vouch for the fact that a new comedic facet of Prince has emerged recently. Let's not look at what is no more & focus on what is to be.
[Edited 10/3/07 2:02am]



If he didn't think there was something wrong with what he'd been doing before, why would he decide it needed to stop?


Or maybe the better question is, why's he feel the need to be an annoying prat about it? If he's not going to sing something, then he just shouldn't sing it. And if he wants to sing those songs, then why won't he just do it?


Well my answer 2 that question would be that there is MORE to the songs he sings than the curse words within them. For instance, DMSR. At the london shows he says how he has to play that song for himself coz he loves it so much, but just decides to replace the word "whore" with "want some more" which leaves the entire vibe & subject matter of the song intact, yet makes it more in tune with his current personal views on bad language. Quite simple I would say.
If he can change drummers & have a brass section play on "Peach" or perform a custom version of "All the Critics Love U In New York" for a london audience, why can he not simply adapt certain song lyrics (minor changes) to be more OAP friendly & more child friendly?
Seems like some are hanging on too hard too yesterday (or perhaps addicted to swearing??)...
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Reply #75 posted 10/05/07 4:18am

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meow85 said:




If he didn't think there was something wrong with what he'd been doing before, why would he decide it needed to stop?


Or maybe the better question is, why's he feel the need to be an annoying prat about it? If he's not going to sing something, then he just shouldn't sing it. And if he wants to sing those songs, then why won't he just do it?


Well my answer 2 that question would be that there is MORE to the songs he sings than the curse words within them. For instance, DMSR. At the london shows he says how he has to play that song for himself coz he loves it so much, but just decides to replace the word "whore" with "want some more" which leaves the entire vibe & subject matter of the song intact, yet makes it more in tune with his current personal views on bad language. Quite simple I would say.
If he can change drummers & have a brass section play on "Peach" or perform a custom version of "All the Critics Love U In New York" for a london audience, why can he not simply adapt certain song lyrics (minor changes) to be more OAP friendly & more child friendly?
Seems like some are hanging on too hard too yesterday (or perhaps addicted to swearing??)...


That's a funny thing about the swearing... you'd think some people started liking Prince purely because he swore!

It's all too easy to swear. Not swearing forces you to express yourself more imaginatively.
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Reply #76 posted 10/05/07 4:53am

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i hate it when Prince does rap, the man raps like a white boy and the people hanging around him should tell him instead of encouraging him to ruin perfectly good songs!!!
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Reply #77 posted 10/05/07 8:57am

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i hate it when Prince does rap, the man raps like a white boy and the people hanging around him should tell him instead of encouraging him to ruin perfectly good songs!!!


Me 2!! - i've actually edited some songs and took out the rap. I also edited Eve out of the "Hot Wit U" (Nasty Girl Mix). It's MUCH Better!!
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Reply #78 posted 10/05/07 9:51am

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Your opinion, indeed. I just hope that you aren't seeing him in the eyes of one with purple 3-D shades, as if he could do no wrong. If this were the likes of someone like, oh say, "JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE"; then, you might have agreed with me. When the original intention of the song on that line was meant to rhyme that one couplet, he kind of ruined the flow (Not that I even really like that song, as it is. Because I don't. But, what a butcher to an already badger.). Not that it was overly necessary. But, really. As someone else said. I'd rather he just avoided it altogether or just play an instrumental version of those types of songs. Either way, as long as the "GOOD" music is residual in some form and/or fashion, I'm content.


I knew deep down that somebody would be able to squeeze some more milage out of this one. For the record, I do not own any purple 3-D glasses. I am going on musical/social history (of which Prince features quite strongly in the breaking down of contemporary boundaries) & interview dialogue from the man himself. I have not yet even got 2 expressing my opinion on whether I would prefer him to avoid singing these songs or not. Although unfortunately, personal opinion appears to be the only basis for people judgements on this subject. & again, with opinions, nobody can win or be right because that is all they are.

All I intended was to clear up the "reason" why he has chosen 2 make this move with factual evidence. If u or anybody else has some evidence to the contrary, please let me know. If not, I'm not too interested to hear your opinions (again). So don't bother quoting me.

(ps. why anybody would want to argue over an (unnamed) song which they claim to not even like, screams out: "iv got absolutely nothing better to do")

Already, you made your point. I said I didn't like it. So, why even address. There, you win. I freakin' admit defeat. Hope you can sleep at night, sir. lol
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Reply #79 posted 10/05/07 10:03am

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It is annoying but I think we'd rather hear these songs with a couple of minor changes than none at all. He seems to alter a word or two in the majority of songs performed now and would hardly touch his peak 80s years otherwise.
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Reply #80 posted 10/05/07 11:17am

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FarrahMoan said:

djenerate said:



I knew deep down that somebody would be able to squeeze some more milage out of this one. For the record, I do not own any purple 3-D glasses. I am going on musical/social history (of which Prince features quite strongly in the breaking down of contemporary boundaries) & interview dialogue from the man himself. I have not yet even got 2 expressing my opinion on whether I would prefer him to avoid singing these songs or not. Although unfortunately, personal opinion appears to be the only basis for people judgements on this subject. & again, with opinions, nobody can win or be right because that is all they are.

All I intended was to clear up the "reason" why he has chosen 2 make this move with factual evidence. If u or anybody else has some evidence to the contrary, please let me know. If not, I'm not too interested to hear your opinions (again). So don't bother quoting me.

(ps. why anybody would want to argue over an (unnamed) song which they claim to not even like, screams out: "iv got absolutely nothing better to do")

Already, you made your point. I said I didn't like it. So, why even address. There, you win. I freakin' admit defeat. Hope you can sleep at night, sir. lol


Ur a funny guy. But any1 who volunteraly calls me "sir" is alright in my book!
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Reply #81 posted 10/06/07 7:08pm

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djenerate said:

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If he didn't think there was something wrong with what he'd been doing before, why would he decide it needed to stop?


Or maybe the better question is, why's he feel the need to be an annoying prat about it? If he's not going to sing something, then he just shouldn't sing it. And if he wants to sing those songs, then why won't he just do it?


Well my answer 2 that question would be that there is MORE to the songs he sings than the curse words within them. For instance, DMSR. At the london shows he says how he has to play that song for himself coz he loves it so much, but just decides to replace the word "whore" with "want some more" which leaves the entire vibe & subject matter of the song intact, yet makes it more in tune with his current personal views on bad language. Quite simple I would say.
If he can change drummers & have a brass section play on "Peach" or perform a custom version of "All the Critics Love U In New York" for a london audience, why can he not simply adapt certain song lyrics (minor changes) to be more OAP friendly & more child friendly?
Seems like some are hanging on too hard too yesterday (or perhaps addicted to swearing??)...


I'd hardly say I'm hanging on too hard to yesterday. Purple Rain came out the year before I was born. lol

Like I said, I don't think there's any need to change the lyrics. Somebody coming to a Prince show, no matter what their age, is chances are already familiar with what's come out of his mouth in the past, and isn't bothered by it.

Second, anyone who thinks words like whore or bitch or shit or fuck are swears is deeply misinterpreting the Biblical edict against swearing. What the Bible says is that you should not swear by God -which hey, includes "Good God", "My God", "Oh My God", "Oh Lord" etc. All phrases Prince makes ample use of. Those words he's decided he's not going to utter on stage anymore are at worst, a bit rude and probably best not said in front of Grandma. But not swears.


Besides, changing "work your body like a whore" to "work your body like you want some more" really isn't making it any cleaner. In fact, I'd argue the "clean" version is light years ahead in the filthy department. lol
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Reply #82 posted 10/06/07 7:11pm

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monkeyrose said:

i hate it when Prince does rap, the man raps like a white boy and the people hanging around him should tell him instead of encouraging him to ruin perfectly good songs!!!

Prince's rapping I can handle. It's when he decides to have some untalented loser spew their lameness through a song that he really fucks it up. Why, oh why can't Prince get a decent rapper to guest? It's not like he doesn't know any.
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Reply #83 posted 10/07/07 5:30pm

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FunAndJames said:

He sais "All My Purple Life" on the Erotic City samply once, and then we "Thats just too funky for ya'll"

When he done Darling Nikki and said "i cant play that" He actually sounded like he was gutted he couldnt do it


Five words that would drop me to my knees!!!!! ALL OF MY PURPLE LIFE....

I WOULD LOSE MY MIND AND NEED TO GET A TAXI HOME... lol
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Reply #84 posted 10/07/07 10:08pm

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bunnyhoney said:

He wouldn’t even attempt the Lyrics to Darling Nikki, Erotic City or Irresistible Bitch he would start and then say “Awwww…I can’t sing that”.

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Reply #85 posted 10/08/07 3:10am

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Reply #86 posted 10/08/07 3:19pm

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dearlybeloved said:

FunAndJames said:

He sais "All My Purple Life" on the Erotic City samply once, and then we "Thats just too funky for ya'll"

When he done Darling Nikki and said "i cant play that" He actually sounded like he was gutted he couldnt do it


Five words that would drop me to my knees!!!!! ALL OF MY PURPLE LIFE....

I WOULD LOSE MY MIND AND NEED TO GET A TAXI HOME... lol


Oh I thought I was dreaming when he started playing those and then the bubble burst...lol. Oh well.sigh His time ain't over yet so...
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