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Thread started 09/28/07 1:31pm

nurse

Do You Feel Controlled or censored....

as a Prince fan? Those may not be the right terms, but what I'm sayin' is do you or are you getting tired of being told what you can and cannot do because your his fan? It is a privilege to be his fan, but I wonder sometimes if it's worth it-I mean you can't take photos of him, can't get an autograph, not to mention he'll sue your ass in a heartbeat. Is it all worth it? Tell me why? pc
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Reply #1 posted 09/28/07 1:38pm

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Well,when I read your question it reminded me of some stories I read about him yon fansite(hq or the org).I know youre on the website controlling and suing thing but like one time I read a fan story about meeting him and she told him it was her birthday and he said "uhn-uhn we dont celebrate those anymore"...or something like that.The part that made me feel uncomfortable was the "we" part.It was like he wants his fans 2 do what he does...and he probably does but it was like he was trying to "control" the girl in that little time he knew her.
Anyway... eek
I myself do not feel controlled because I will still listen to his dirty songs and sing the lyrics without including animals such as "ducks" and shit,lol.I will look at videos on the internet and I will take pics and look at pics from concerts lol He cant control me...he can try but he cant.
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Reply #2 posted 09/28/07 1:40pm

ejnbmore

It will always be worth it to me since I don't want his picture or to have his autograph. He is the epitome of an true artist in every since of the word. I am content to just appreciate his work. I try not to think about it monetarily, but this year I spent/invested a pretty penny, however I'm sure what I received is intangible and priceless. I feel like I'm lucky that he is so generous with his art. I don't think it is my right to dictate how he shares.
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Reply #3 posted 09/28/07 1:46pm

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ejnbmore said:

It will always be worth it to me since I don't want his picture or to have his autograph. He is the epitome of an true artist in every since of the word. I am content to just appreciate his work. I try not to think about it monetarily, but this year I spent/invested a pretty penny, however I'm sure what I received is intangible and priceless. I feel like I'm lucky that he is so generous with his art. I don't think it is my right to dictate how he shares.



U said it, I couldn't agree more!!!
God save us from the fame game.....
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Reply #4 posted 09/28/07 1:46pm

nurse

PleasurePrinciple said:

Well,when I read your question it reminded me of some stories I read about him yon fansite(hq or the org).I know youre on the website controlling and suing thing but like one time I read a fan story about meeting him and she told him it was her birthday and he said "uhn-uhn we dont celebrate those anymore"...or something like that.The part that made me feel uncomfortable was the "we" part.It was like he wants his fans 2 do what he does...and he probably does but it was like he was trying to "control" the girl in that little time he knew her.
Anyway... eek
I myself do not feel controlled because I will still listen to his dirty songs and sing the lyrics without including animals such as "ducks" and shit,lol.I will look at videos on the internet and I will take pics and look at pics from concerts lol He cant control me...he can try but he cant.



This is very weird, but probably true. How could someone take a precious thing like a birthday and just completely ignore it? It makes me sad at times that as fans we get no consideration at all and we have supported the man forever. I'm still a fan, but I think that it is starting to bother me now.
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Reply #5 posted 09/28/07 1:47pm

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I don't really care. I tend to separate the person from the artist a lot.

When I listen to Prince, I'm connecting with the man he portrays himself to be in his music. Beyond that, I lose interest.
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Reply #6 posted 09/28/07 1:49pm

Lilith

No. I dont feel controlled nor censored first bcuz I listen 2 other artists that give me what Prince isnt..... second I listen 2 old Prince music without feeling guilty...He wrote them!
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Reply #7 posted 09/28/07 1:50pm

nurse

ejnbmore said:

It will always be worth it to me since I don't want his picture or to have his autograph. He is the epitome of an true artist in every since of the word. I am content to just appreciate his work. I try not to think about it monetarily, but this year I spent/invested a pretty penny, however I'm sure what I received is intangible and priceless. I feel like I'm lucky that he is so generous with his art. I don't think it is my right to dictate how he shares.



I've always appreciated his genius and always will , but it is all about money when you think about it. We invest money in Prince-we enjoy his art, but that's all we ever get. Not a thank you to all my fans-not anything. I have also invested quite a penny in Prince things over the years-that was my choice. But is it really all worth it though?
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Reply #8 posted 09/28/07 1:50pm

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PurpleKnight said:

I don't really care. I tend to separate the person from the artist a lot.

When I listen to Prince, I'm connecting with the man he portrays himself to be in his music. Beyond that, I lose interest.


I agree nod
I love his music, and his "musical persona", but as for his personal feelings, ideas, and beliefs...well he can keep them biggrin
If you will, so will I
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Reply #9 posted 09/28/07 1:51pm

nurse

PurpleKnight said:

I don't really care. I tend to separate the person from the artist a lot.

When I listen to Prince, I'm connecting with the man he portrays himself to be in his music. Beyond that, I lose interest.



Straight to the point eek I like it
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Reply #10 posted 09/28/07 1:54pm

nurse

Lilith said:

No. I dont feel controlled nor censored first bcuz I listen 2 other artists that give me what Prince isnt..... second I listen 2 old Prince music without feeling guilty...He wrote them!



I'm sure that we all listen to other people-I know that I do, but I don't know of any other artist that is always attempting to control things that way that Prince does. Sure, one must have some control-there are people out there who take things to the extreme, but for us fans who have been with him for 26 years don't we deserve at least a "thank you?"
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Reply #11 posted 09/28/07 1:55pm

nurse

thekidsgirl said:

PurpleKnight said:

I don't really care. I tend to separate the person from the artist a lot.

When I listen to Prince, I'm connecting with the man he portrays himself to be in his music. Beyond that, I lose interest.


I agree nod
I love his music, and his "musical persona", but as for his personal feelings, ideas, and beliefs...well he can keep them biggrin


Nicely said wink
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Reply #12 posted 09/28/07 2:26pm

ritaw

nurse said:

ejnbmore said:

It will always be worth it to me since I don't want his picture or to have his autograph. He is the epitome of an true artist in every since of the word. I am content to just appreciate his work. I try not to think about it monetarily, but this year I spent/invested a pretty penny, however I'm sure what I received is intangible and priceless. I feel like I'm lucky that he is so generous with his art. I don't think it is my right to dictate how he shares.



I've always appreciated his genius and always will , but it is all about money when you think about it. We invest money in Prince-we enjoy his art, but that's all we ever get. Not a thank you to all my fans-not anything. I have also invested quite a penny in Prince things over the years-that was my choice. But is it really all worth it though?


well i'm sure i heard a few thank-yous/appreciative comments in the O2 shows, everyone got a free CD in the paper or with a ticket and on the last aftershow he played for near on 3 hours (for £25.00) - frankly i'm amazed compared to alot of other artists (tickets £50-100, no free CDs etc.) Prince seems to be quite good VFM - and on sunday we get the SOTT free in the Observer - give the guy a break
"C'mon y'all - let me hear you sing, c'mon y'all, shake, c'mon y'all, jump" - Yes Prince -
"London do you feel for me what I feel for you"- yes Prince -
"Can I play my guitar now?" - yes please
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Reply #13 posted 09/28/07 2:46pm

wlcm2thdwn

I love Prince dearly and have since before the Purple rain days but I must admit this trying to control everything is wearing on my nerves. I've tried to understand his reasons for his actions, but this latest thing with making photobucket delete all his pictures in peoples accounts is ridiculous! confused Yes i feel controlled AND censored.
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Reply #14 posted 09/28/07 2:51pm

christos7

I've been outta control 4 a while now, and I like 2 flirt with danger. cool
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Reply #15 posted 09/28/07 2:57pm

sexxydancer

I don't feel controlled r censored.Some act as tho he's the only celeb doing these thingz,but I don't know of any who u can just walk up on and take photos r get autographs.Not big name celebs,anyway.I have all the uncensored music,vids, and memories of the "old" Prince 2 last a lifetime.I actually kinda appreciate this new Prince,and I remain honored 2 b a fam.It's all worth it 2 me,and I'm with him every step of the way.I just love him. mushy
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Reply #16 posted 09/28/07 3:39pm

Genesia

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Well, first of all, censorship can only be done by a government, technically. So, no -- I don't feel censored. And controlled? lol The only thing Prince controls (that affects me) is the number of opportunities I have to actually see him in person. (Whether I choose to take advantage of those opportunities is up to me.)
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Reply #17 posted 09/28/07 3:45pm

christos7

nurse said:

It is a privilege to be his fan, but I wonder sometimes if it's worth it-I mean you can't take photos of him, can't get an autograph, not to mention he'll sue your ass in a heartbeat. Is it all worth it? Tell me why? pc



I dunno bout it bein 'a privelage' 2 b his fan... rolleyes
He's the privelaged 1. lol
(I'm sure he'd agree 2)
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Reply #18 posted 09/28/07 3:59pm

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nurse said:

as a Prince fan? Those may not be the right terms, but what I'm sayin' is do you or are you getting tired of being told what you can and cannot do because your his fan? It is a privilege to be his fan, but I wonder sometimes if it's worth it-I mean you can't take photos of him, can't get an autograph, not to mention he'll sue your ass in a heartbeat. Is it all worth it? Tell me why? pc


Whoa!! Excellent question!

I haven't told too many people... but it's because I know how people who don't know him too well (only what the media shows 2b "true") see him. They believe because of the things he's done in his work & onstage that he's just plain weird and that's kinda frowned upon in society.
I'm half afraid to bring him up sometimes because I don't want to get that kind of reaction. As far as the other stuff goes, I don't really care if I don't get a picture of him or an autograph... it'd be a priviledge, but I wouldn't "die" if I never get the chance to meet him.
His music is all I really need... and people here to discuss it with, people that understand and aren't so quick to judge him.
had 2 run away... pride was 2 strong. It started raining, baby, the birds were gone
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Reply #19 posted 09/28/07 4:15pm

Tame

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Just to answer, I do not feel controlled or censored.
"The Lion Sleeps Tonight...
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Reply #20 posted 09/28/07 4:36pm

happyhappy

it isn't really a privilege that were his fans, it's a privilege that he has fans. (i kind of give him credit for all the effort he makes to maintain his identity, but he does oppress his fans alot)
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Reply #21 posted 09/28/07 4:44pm

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great question and thread.

Do i feel controlled or censored? No, but I do get annoyed that he seems more interested in coming up with creative solutions for controlling his image then he does creating his art. Not that there is anything wrong with controlling ones image...I just wish the art was just as creative as giving away a cd or dvd via a newspaper.
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Reply #22 posted 09/28/07 4:47pm

christos7

Just don't look him straight in the eye... lol
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Reply #23 posted 09/28/07 4:53pm

DreamyPopRoyal
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christos7 said:

Just don't look him straight in the eye... lol


falloff

For a while, I think I was under his spell most of the time, but I did have a will of my own.

These days, I really have a will of my own... too bad some kind of balance can't be reached.

Him hypnotize me as I listen to his music and I choose which albums I listen to. I give him my time and he takes it away...
a mutual agreement cool
had 2 run away... pride was 2 strong. It started raining, baby, the birds were gone
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Reply #24 posted 09/28/07 4:59pm

ReginaCarman

nurse said:

as a Prince fan? Those may not be the right terms, but what I'm sayin' is do you or are you getting tired of being told what you can and cannot do because your his fan? It is a privilege to be his fan, but I wonder sometimes if it's worth it-I mean you can't take photos of him, can't get an autograph, not to mention he'll sue your ass in a heartbeat. Is it all worth it? Tell me why? pc

YES! smile Because i LOVE Prince heart Plus, Prince shares his Photos of himself and, he is Loving and that is why he has fans, he doesn't force people to be his fans, the ones that are his fans are because they want to be.
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Reply #25 posted 09/28/07 7:20pm

PurpleKnight

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sosgemini said:

great question and thread.

Do i feel controlled or censored? No, but I do get annoyed that he seems more interested in coming up with creative solutions for controlling his image then he does creating his art. Not that there is anything wrong with controlling ones image...I just wish the art was just as creative as giving away a cd or dvd via a newspaper.



It's ironic, isn't it? Now that Prince's business skills have improved exponentially, his musical creativity has vastly diminished, whereas his best 90's work suffered from a complete lack of proper business sense.
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Reply #26 posted 09/28/07 8:33pm

shaomi

nurse said:

as a Prince fan? Those may not be the right terms, but what I'm sayin' is do you or are you getting tired of being told what you can and cannot do because your his fan? It is a privilege to be his fan, but I wonder sometimes if it's worth it-I mean you can't take photos of him, can't get an autograph, not to mention he'll sue your ass in a heartbeat. Is it all worth it? Tell me why? pc


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Reply #27 posted 09/28/07 8:36pm

DreamyPopRoyal
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well, i do feel censored... cuz nobody around me seems to want to talk about him and its awkward to bring him up... so I plain just don't unless someone gives me the go-ahead... music comes up, so I talk about Prince... if only for a while.

Then on car rides, I want to play him, but I'd have to cut some tracks my mom isn't comfortable with. She has this idea that Prince is "weird"... and I wouldn't want to get a lecture about what he's really singing about... like I don't know! lol

Can't talk about him openly in conversation... very frustrating... cuz I gottsta talk about him... just gottsta cool
had 2 run away... pride was 2 strong. It started raining, baby, the birds were gone
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Reply #28 posted 09/28/07 9:18pm

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1st off let me say nursey nurse I'm tired of you dissapearing on me! lol

And No! I don't feel censored bcuz I respect people's wishes. Whatever he asks for doesn't bother me a bit. Dreamy said that she feels censored bcuz people doesn't want to talk about him with her..... Me personally I don't really care if anybody talks about him with me I enjoy him either way. Sure it feels good to know that people share the same interest in him that you do, and you like to converse about it nothing wrong with that. I always brought him up knowing alot of the consequences I was going to have to deal with {meaning people calling him out of his name etc}. I always got easily offended and still do, but not as much as I use to I just tell them "It's nothing wrong with your opinion, but if your going to try and stuff it down my throat as if it were facts then I don't wanna be bothered!" But that's just me soooo shrug biggrin
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Reply #29 posted 09/28/07 9:27pm

nurse

shaomi said:

nurse said:

as a Prince fan? Those may not be the right terms, but what I'm sayin' is do you or are you getting tired of being told what you can and cannot do because your his fan? It is a privilege to be his fan, but I wonder sometimes if it's worth it-I mean you can't take photos of him, can't get an autograph, not to mention he'll sue your ass in a heartbeat. Is it all worth it? Tell me why? pc


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