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Reply #30 posted 09/25/07 8:48am

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Has anyone seen the live acoustic version of Reflection with Wendy? i saw/heard that version first and was a little disapointed when i heard the album version, as with some of his other personal songs i think minimal production adds to the personality of the song, im thinking "I love you but.... and sometimes it snows ..."
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Reply #31 posted 09/25/07 10:06am

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Patrick1985 said:

Has anyone seen the live acoustic version of Reflection with Wendy? i saw/heard that version first and was a little disapointed when i heard the album version, as with some of his other personal songs i think minimal production adds to the personality of the song, im thinking "I love you but.... and sometimes it snows ..."


I'm not sure if I saw that before or after I got Musicology. But I really loved seeing it... as with any of his live performances.
But there is something different about him when he does acoustic guitar... makes things a little more personal. I hadn't seen it since I really got to know who Wendy (or any of the members of the Revolution) really was... so hopefully I'll be able to find it again and see it. Seems like there's a lot of sparks going between them when they're onstage.
Not like lovey-dovey sparks, but more like he plays his best when she's at his side.
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Reply #32 posted 09/25/07 6:47pm

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Patrick1985 said:

Has anyone seen the live acoustic version of Reflection with Wendy? i saw/heard that version first and was a little disapointed when i heard the album version, as with some of his other personal songs i think minimal production adds to the personality of the song, im thinking "I love you but.... and sometimes it snows ..."


no no no! Please Stay On Topic





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Reply #33 posted 09/25/07 8:57pm

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Dreamy Pop, please let me know what year and who the publisher will be when your book "Musings on Musicology" comes out. I will eagerly be holding my breath in anticipation in the meantime.
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Reply #34 posted 09/25/07 8:58pm

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Reply #35 posted 09/25/07 8:59pm

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runningbear said:

Dreamy Pop, please let me know what year and who the publisher will be when your book "Musings on Musicology" comes out. I will eagerly be holding my breath in anticipation in the meantime.


For serious? confused

[if anyone thinks that's a GOOD idea, send me a message. It's hard to tell sometimes if you guys are joking or being straight with me.]
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Reply #36 posted 09/25/07 9:11pm

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runningbear said:

Dreamy Pop, please let me know what year and who the publisher will be when your book "Musings on Musicology" comes out. I will eagerly be holding my breath in anticipation in the meantime.


For serious? confused



Uhh, no, sorry. Was making fun of you and your thread. I suppose I am a bad person. Also think Musicology is competitive for most mediocre Prince record, and I have heard all the main releases of his. Just my opinion though.
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Reply #37 posted 09/25/07 9:15pm

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runningbear said:

DreamyPopRoyalty said:



For serious? confused



Uhh, no, sorry. Was making fun of you and your thread. I suppose I am a bad person. Also think Musicology is competitive for most mediocre Prince record, and I have heard all the main releases of his. Just my opinion though.


Ok, just for future reference, don't joke with me about writing books.
That's something I've done, but haven't gotten to the publishing step yet.

And honestly, I think Prince would be a good subject for me. Writing interpretations of his work and making it into a book. But he'd just think I had no life if I did cuz I go into so much detail.

sigh I guess nobody cares enough to care/comment on anything I said about the album. I thought they were good ideas (especially my intro & conclusion).
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Reply #38 posted 09/25/07 9:22pm

runningbear

I apologize, I was being a bit mean spirited. I think when you said "lets stay on topic" readers found the comment a bit off-putting, and were more likely to jest you. In actuality though, you have had some sincere responses to your thread.

Keep writing , like everything, it will improve with time.
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Reply #39 posted 09/25/07 9:32pm

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runningbear said:

I apologize, I was being a bit mean spirited. I think when you said "lets stay on topic" readers found the comment a bit off-putting, and were more likely to jest you. In actuality though, you have had some sincere responses to your thread.

Keep writing , like everything, it will improve with time.


Thanx.
Seems like its getting harder to keep my chin up around here with all that's going around.
Part of it might be just me, though.

It's come up twice and I'd love nothing more than to one day write something on Prince that could be published for all to see. He just has this way of making me think anything's possible. Seems like a crazy dream/idea that I might change my mind about a year later... but I have more of a chance with than seeing him in person. shrug I could still live with the fact I never met him personally, but already, he's given me so much that all I can give in return is money for those albums, heh.
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Reply #40 posted 09/25/07 10:14pm

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DreamyPopRoyalty said:

thepope2the9s said:

Guess it is safe to say dreamypop doesn't write reviews for a living..


ha ha... very funny

I write things 4 long for you people and very few can keep up.
I've never had this much trouble getting responses b4.

Side-note: My new siggy pretty much explains why I went through all this trouble.
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Um, it's not just the fact that what you wrote is so long... it's the fact that you manage to say absolutely nothing interesting in these overly wordy posts of yours. It's very easy to "keep up". Get over yourself. Your writing is not complex at all.

We get that you sometimes don't like Gold as much and that you don't like 3121 as much as when you first listened to it... no need to post about it in every single thread you reply to.
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Reply #41 posted 09/26/07 12:22am

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Gohi said:

DreamyPopRoyalty said:



ha ha... very funny

I write things 4 long for you people and very few can keep up.
I've never had this much trouble getting responses b4.

Side-note: My new siggy pretty much explains why I went through all this trouble.
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Um, it's not just the fact that what you wrote is so long... it's the fact that you manage to say absolutely nothing interesting in these overly wordy posts of yours. It's very easy to "keep up". Get over yourself. Your writing is not complex at all.

We get that you sometimes don't like Gold as much and that you don't like 3121 as much as when you first listened to it... no need to post about it in every single thread you reply to.

I hate to be mean here, but I agree.
It is not known why FuNkeNsteiN capitalizes his name as he does, though some speculate sunlight deficiency caused by the most pimpified white guy afro in Nordic history.

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Reply #42 posted 09/26/07 1:11am

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DreamyPopRoyalty said:

Another cheesy love song, but back when Prince was growing up, it wasn’t uncommon. Here he talks about his current wife and it’s pretty much a love song dedicated to her. Here he says that he can’t stop writing songs about her, a few of those songs did show up in his next album, but not quite as many as he did for his first wife. The 2nd verse kinda foreshadows the track after it, but he quickly retreats back to the current track. The significance of the title lies in the fact that he had just went back to being called Prince. And Mayte never called him Prince. When you’re truly in love with someone, it must feel pretty special to hear them call your name. I think that’s what the song’s really all about. Occasionally, when I listen to it, I really get drowned in it. There’s just something very romantic and sweet about it, regardless of how cheesy the lyrics are. “So many speak of the moon as if it has no flaws,” is also what being in love is about. You only see the good when you’re in love with someone that much. And of course, the song wouldn’t be complete unless someone did say “Prince” once before it ended. This song is a hit/miss for me most of the time. A lot of the time, it’s a miss for me, but I guess that’s only because I don’t want to be taken in by it. But sometimes, it surprises me and it sounds really sweet and beautiful.





Hey, girl! You already know my take on this song! It's a sort of biased statement though!

Well, let me try to restate it. I feel that this song was written to please his wife due to her insecurities and jealousy and prove his love for her in trying to make peace in his marriage. (Sorry , just using my keen imagination - lol). But that's what I gander from reading stories about her. And to me it seemed like his heart wasn't too into it. Ok, ok! to be fair though, I was not there and neither were any of the people that have commented on her but if you put things together, that seems like the most likely story behind the story. Although I should add that I don't doubt that he really did love her otherwise he would not have crafted such a beautiful song for her!

I feel like such a gossip right now, and you made me say it by putting your sad-puppy faced icon.

As far as calling his name, besides what you mentioned, I remember that interview with Larry King(?) where he asked Prince, "What do people call you?", and Prince said that Mayte calls him "Honey", not Prince. So he probably liked that Manuella called him by name. After all, using someone's name is personal! I wouldn't like people calling me, "Hey, fat girl" lol instead of my name! (Some serious butt whooping will be in order mad )

Hope you are enjoying the process of trying to figure out the man! biggrin
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Reply #43 posted 09/26/07 4:01am

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FuNkeNsteiN said:

Gohi said:



Um, it's not just the fact that what you wrote is so long... it's the fact that you manage to say absolutely nothing interesting in these overly wordy posts of yours. It's very easy to "keep up". Get over yourself. Your writing is not complex at all.

We get that you sometimes don't like Gold as much and that you don't like 3121 as much as when you first listened to it... no need to post about it in every single thread you reply to.

I hate to be mean here, but I agree.


Cosign.

The "stay on topic" was just straight-up rude. You also said on another thread for responders to "keep it positive". Don't tell people what to write, this is a discussion forum.

For as often as you post which albums you get/need, you've set yourself up for that album question. I think the person posting the question was nice to remember that you're still building your collection.

It seems that you are writing your daily blog here on the Org. This thread was not captivating or thought-provoking, hence not many pure responses.
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Reply #44 posted 09/26/07 7:41am

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As far as calling his name, besides what you mentioned, I remember that interview with Larry King(?) where he asked Prince, "What do people call you?", and Prince said that Mayte calls him "Honey", not Prince. So he probably liked that Manuella called him by name. After all, using someone's name is personal! I wouldn't like people calling me, "Hey, fat girl" lol instead of my name! (Some serious butt whooping will be in order mad )

Hope you are enjoying the process of trying to figure out the man! biggrin


I figured out that right on the spot. Which really interested me quite a bit. Like "how come I didn't think of it before, it's so simple".
In reponse 2 the latter, I ALWAYS enjoying figuring him out. But these days, I hardly know what to think. Maybe its cuz of what's going on here (this thread & the site)... or schoolwork starting to pile up (well, just one paper and a test coming up)...I dunno.

I think its safe 2 say that I committed thread-suicide boxed dead here.
Musicology will always be a gem for me because it was the first album I ever picked out.
I'll gladly take requests for album reviews of anything else I own. In an attempt 2 redeem myself, I guess. I used to come up with some really thought-provoking posts in the very beginning... I dunno what happened there, but it may have to do with the funk I've been going thru lately. Feels like I've forgotten what it felt like to listen to him... so hopefully Planet Earth will be a cure for that later today.
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Reply #45 posted 09/26/07 2:47pm

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Jackie, you, this thread and you're writing are corny. You come off as a new fan who just learned of Prince's later work and went nuts. The "how many albums" question was appropiate because in other threads you've mentioned you just became a fan and had only a handful of releases. It was "on topic".

I think it's cute you find Prince so intriguing alongside Lindsay Lohan and Jesse McCartney. But I think it's a safe bet to say around here that shit don't fly.

It seems you need to start from the beginning and evolve with Prince's music like everybody else before you start sharing stories of how a 2004 release is so sentimental for you because it "was the first one" you "picked out".

As far as a carrer in writing?, read more.

I don't care if this comes across mean spirited or haterish. It needed to be said.
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Reply #46 posted 09/28/07 2:11pm

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Actually, this was one of the nicer posts I got there.

I easily got annoyed with everyone else because it sounded like "you can't have too many albums if you think Musicology sounds great." In an attempt to avoid that, I just made things worse.
I guess I'm not used to getting slammed on by everyone else because my messages used to come off great and I kinda made a name for myself. [Behind my u/n DreamyPop, I feel more protected and I guess a way to break away from myself... now who knows what they'll be saying about me?]

I do things the way I want to, so I most likely won't take your advice on "starting from the beginning and going thru his work"... you're not the first who's told me so and I've gotten by on going thru his work my own way. The earliest I have is Dirty Mind, which I probably should be getting back to. It's been quite a while.
But I kinda want to avoiding going back to Purple Rain... cuz I've seen the movie too many times recently and I think I wore the novelty off (3x in 2 weeks will do that).

And this probably is the 2nd time in 2 weeks someone's told me to "read more." I really don't like reading all that much to began with... at least not the posts I've been seeing lately that come across as negative, long before I came up with this "mistake." Seems like the world kept turning after my little hiatus from here (my computer crashed)... and most of the friends I made rarely come anymore.
It's getting a little frustrating here the same thing over and over.

And maybe I just have this fear that if I go back and try to go thru his earlier work and work my way through, I'm just going appreciate his recent material a lot less... and I'd hate that to happen to the likes of Planet Earth. (Musicology, I was kinda starting to dislike when I posted this thread... I wrote all that about a month ago).

I'd start posting past reviews I've made of the albums I got in my absence, but nobody's given me the go-ahead. Guess cuz they're already expecting me to continue digging my own grave.
I'm gonna stop posting replies on my "mistake" thread so it can at least slowly die off. It's no use fighting a losing battle anymore.


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Reply #47 posted 09/28/07 2:21pm

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AvramsDad said:

Jackie, you, this thread and you're writing are corny. You come off as a new fan who just learned of Prince's later work and went nuts. The "how many albums" question was appropiate because in other threads you've mentioned you just became a fan and had only a handful of releases. It was "on topic".

I think it's cute you find Prince so intriguing alongside Lindsay Lohan and Jesse McCartney. But I think it's a safe bet to say around here that shit don't fly.

It seems you need to start from the beginning and evolve with Prince's music like everybody else before you start sharing stories of how a 2004 release is so sentimental for you because it "was the first one" you "picked out".

As far as a carrer in writing?, read more.

I don't care if this comes across mean spirited or haterish. It needed to be said.

I would SO do Lindsay!
She has that certain edge,
that danger of unpredictablity.
Nothin' turns me on more than a loopy cunt who knows how to rub romance against the grain.

Nothin'.
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Reply #48 posted 09/28/07 2:25pm

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AvramsDad said:

Jackie, you, this thread and you're writing are corny. You come off as a new fan who just learned of Prince's later work and went nuts. The "how many albums" question was appropiate because in other threads you've mentioned you just became a fan and had only a handful of releases. It was "on topic".

I think it's cute you find Prince so intriguing alongside Lindsay Lohan and Jesse McCartney. But I think it's a safe bet to say around here that shit don't fly.

It seems you need to start from the beginning and evolve with Prince's music like everybody else before you start sharing stories of how a 2004 release is so sentimental for you because it "was the first one" you "picked out".

As far as a carrer in writing?, read more.

I don't care if this comes across mean spirited or haterish. It needed to be said.

I would SO do Lindsay!
She has that certain edge,
that danger of unpredictablity.
Nothin' turns me on more than a loopy cunt who knows how to rub romance against the grain.

Nothin'.

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Reply #49 posted 09/28/07 2:33pm

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DreamyPopRoyalty said:



I always wrote a lengthy intro & conclusion. But I'll add each track one post at a time. Hope u like the rest.

Illusion, Coma, Pimp and Circumstance
Here’s one of his storytelling tracks. It’s hard to tell if this was ever taken from personal experience, but its an interesting tale. It seems like it’s a story about a little rich girl that doesn’t have any rhythm and a man shows her how to dance. This just might go back to the movie “under the cherry moon” where Christopher Tracy tries to bring Mary Sharon down to his world. It’s a bit of a vague/obscure track. The instrumentals are a little funky, but show how music used to sound when he was growing up. His delivery of some of his lines is more of his personality and that speaks volumes more than a lot of the lyrics do. The obscurity of the whole thing just be another one of his “Prince”-isms. The song ends with instrumentals alone that recall the chorus and such and that’s how songs used to end “back in the day.” The only thing that irks me is his delivery of the first line of the song and each time its repeated. It could have been a little smoother.

This song is about a young gigolo showing a rich, old, fugly woman a good time...a young pimp turned into a ho for $$$

In-depth view hmm.....more like glanced over lol
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Hahahah, this nigga here. I agree 100%
Kick the old school joint 4 the true funk soldiers.

1. Sign 'o' the Times
2. 1999
3. Dirty Mind
4. Parade
5. Purple Rain
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Reply #50 posted 09/28/07 2:59pm

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Brendan said:

I really like the way you bury yourself so completely in a topic. This will give me a different perspective the next time I listen to this album.

You have a lot of exploring/thinking behind you, but even more of it ahead.

Out on Prince’s stoop thinking about the 60s and 70s, about mom, posters, fishing nets, and young romance.

Thanks.


:gasp: An actual reply... I could die of shock. Glad to hear u could at least digest some of what I wrote. One night, I just decided "I want to really go in deep with Musicology". It'll always be a special album for me cuz I picked it out as my very first one. And once I got into the Toostie roll center, I found something really... quite amazing. So here's the rest.

Reflection
Here he’s alone and he uses the different instruments to showcase his laid-back attitude towards life. It’s a very smooth steady beat that draws on his laid-back nature when he isn’t hard at work. I really like the use of flute in this song and the addition of instruments in the last verse that help everything come together. He interjects a few little thoughts here and there from his feelings on different days of the week. He talks about his beliefs (life after death), and the reference to his mother shows that he could have written this a little bit after he died. It could have helped him deal with that loss. The lyric about afros goes back to when he started his career and how he and his friends did compare theirs. The last line shows his love for life and the simplicity of it. This is also a great ending track for the album because “back in the day,” things were a lot simpler. There was no technology and here he uses the organic nature of the instruments to show that simplicity. Oddly, it does go against his nature because he’s not the reminiscing type, but since he was going back to how old-school music used to be, there was no harm in bringing old experiences into that light.

Conclusion
I like to come back to this album every now and then to remind myself of things. It holds my perception of Prince at the beginning of my journey and shows me what he’s like a person. It lacks the elements his long-time listeners know him for, but I don’t mind not having that side of him anymore. A person can’t be that kind of a person with that kind of mind all the time. It shows how he’s grown up and the fact he put such a project together shows off his experience. Not many do, but I respect this album. I believe it should be respected because its still great in its own right.


I like your analogy of Musicology. I'd like to add, did it ever occur that Prince may have not wanted Mayte to call him by Prince...they were together when he was through all the turmoil with WB and he changed his name/refered to glyph.
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Reply #51 posted 09/28/07 3:43pm

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4bjb said:


I like your analogy of Musicology. I'd like to add, did it ever occur that Prince may have not wanted Mayte to call him by Prince...they were together when he was through all the turmoil with WB and he changed his name/refered to glyph.


Thanx 4 ur kind words. Gotten very few of them here...

anyway...
I belive her story. I think it was on the Today Show. She said she never called him Prince the whole time she knew him because she didn't see him as "that person." Like his onstage personality.

The past month or so, I found it hard to really associate him with that name too. Somehow, it sounds too good for him... or not good enough for him. I don't know how I really see him these days.
I used to call "His Greatness" a lot at the beginning of my journey, but I think my view of him has gotten more "human"... cuz even he has flaws, so it'd be wrong to worship him as a "God"...
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Reply #52 posted 09/30/07 5:08am

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DreamyPopRoyalty said:


I belive her story. I think it was on the Today Show. She said she never called him Prince the whole time she knew him because she didn't see him as "that person." Like his onstage personality.


that's bull, you should read her recent interview with FHM
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Reply #53 posted 09/30/07 5:23am

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Patrick1985 said:

DreamyPopRoyalty said:


I belive her story. I think it was on the Today Show. She said she never called him Prince the whole time she knew him because she didn't see him as "that person." Like his onstage personality.


that's bull, you should read her recent interview with FHM



Hi, what is FHM and where can I find it?
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Reply #54 posted 09/30/07 8:01am

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Do not b discouraged. eye like Musicology 2, especial-E the song "Musicology", b-coz it is about Musicology. It N-couraged me 2 pursue my degree in Musicology. eye also like the song 'Guitar', b-coz it is about loving a Guitar. Loving a Guitar is important 4 Musicology. We need love 4 1 another, and eye need anotherloverlikeaholeinthehead.
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Reply #55 posted 10/02/07 3:16am

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wildgoldenhoney said:

Patrick1985 said:


that's bull, you should read her recent interview with FHM



Hi, what is FHM and where can I find it?

A male orientated magazine over here in England
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Reply #56 posted 10/02/07 7:44am

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Reply #57 posted 10/02/07 7:52am

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spacedolphin said:

Do not b discouraged. eye like Musicology 2, especial-E the song "Musicology", b-coz it is about Musicology. It N-couraged me 2 pursue my degree in Musicology. eye also like the song 'Guitar', b-coz it is about loving a Guitar.


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Reply #58 posted 10/03/07 2:33am

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Patrick1985 said:

wildgoldenhoney said:




Hi, what is FHM and where can I find it?

A male orientated magazine over here in England



Oh, ok... so a nude magazine? lol

Do you know if they have an online version, and if you can direct me to it. I'm curious bout the interview now.
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Reply #59 posted 10/03/07 3:34am

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Patrick1985 said:


A male orientated magazine over here in England



Oh, ok... so a nude magazine? lol

Do you know if they have an online version, and if you can direct me to it. I'm curious bout the interview now.

it has interesting articles too lol (not that i read it), i think the article in question was posted on here once, might be worth a search/new thread
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