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Thread started 09/17/07 7:04pm

pennylover

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Is Prince ashamed of his past?

I do understand why he has retired some songs do to his religion and explicit lyrics, etc. He’s a very handsome man who has taken the most beautiful photos, even the commando ones boxed. I’m sure Prince has come across these threads with us drooling all over him lol. I just wonder and want 2 hear your views on this subject matter. Could this be one of the reasons he is responding 2 some of the fan sites. sad I understand You Tube but his fans that have dedicated so much 2 him? As fans have we gone 2 far? R we trying 2 dig 2 deep and invading his privacy? Has Prince become paranoid and frustrated with us?sad
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Reply #1 posted 09/17/07 7:27pm

kpowers

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I don't think he's ashamed of his past. He always say that was a period of his life and understands why he did what he at that time.
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Reply #2 posted 09/17/07 7:32pm

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Prince, is it true that youre annoyed with us? sad

We don't mean 2 be, at least some of us don't! rolleyes

If u r annoyed that's a shame, my dog Fluffy loves u! Ain't that right Fluffy?.....



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I ain't felt this way in years...
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Reply #3 posted 09/17/07 7:38pm

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prince repressing himself isn't good. it's a failure of imagination. but if he's truly obsessed with his religion, then nothing anyone says really matters.


oh p.s. i would say that to anyone. i don't think it's healthy to try to erase part of yourself (if that's what he's doing).
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Reply #4 posted 09/17/07 7:41pm

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I don't think he is ashamed of his past.
Your past makes u who u r. He knows that perfectly.
But the way he writes music all the time, he can't really linger in the past. He's always doing something new.

In response 2 the other thing, if u read this, Prince, sorry 4 anything I might have said 2 offend u.
had 2 run away... pride was 2 strong. It started raining, baby, the birds were gone
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Reply #5 posted 09/18/07 3:09am

wlcm2thdwn

He's said that he is not and I believe him, it's his affiliation with others that are deciding for him.
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Reply #6 posted 09/18/07 3:15am

GiGi319

Prince isn't ashamed of his past. He's just not living in the past, but has moved on to things that are important to him at the present time.
love the one who is Love!
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Reply #7 posted 09/18/07 3:36am

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i think he's just trying to resist the past and follow the JW line of practice. However given the fact that he is playing riffs from Head, Irresistable bitch, soft and wet, erotic city etc it would appear that he misses the 'rude boy'!. Come P, reistance is futile!.
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Reply #8 posted 09/21/07 9:04am

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pennylover said:

I do understand why he has retired some songs do to his religion and explicit lyrics, etc. He’s a very handsome man who has taken the most beautiful photos, even the commando ones boxed. I’m sure Prince has come across these threads with us drooling all over him lol. I just wonder and want 2 hear your views on this subject matter. Could this be one of the reasons he is responding 2 some of the fan sites. sad I understand You Tube but his fans that have dedicated so much 2 him? As fans have we gone 2 far? R we trying 2 dig 2 deep and invading his privacy? Has Prince become paranoid and frustrated with us?sad



I'm not sure any of us are remotely qualified to say if he's ashamed of his past or not, though i'm not sure exactly what it is he's doing now to help you think he may be (prob me just being thick) ?

I'm becoming very aware tho' about what you're saying regarding fans being "dedicated so much to him", as this is cropping up a lot on threads.

I really don't see any relevence between Prince (his behaviour), his life and career choices.... and fans dedication to him. You ask a good question about are we going too deep invading his privacy. The way i'm feeling it, some people may be suffering with transference problems arising from the "relationship" they feel they have with Prince.

We don't have a real life relationship with this man. So many people on threads are saying what Prince feels, thinks, does, likes, etc as tho' stating FACT.. but it's transference. It's what the individual writing the thread or response to a thread "thinks" Prince feels or thinks. That's transference, no more no less. It has nothing to do with Prince.

It's maybe when Prince's own actions don't back up what a fan thought they would/should be, that possibly the fan feels Prince let them down or may be somehow angry or pissed at them.

You at least ask questions rather than stating facts in your thread, and for that I applaud you. Beause, the ONLY fact is, we don't collectively know what he's paranoid about or pissed about or what makes him tick. To discuss and debate is fascinating, but it is ultimately only what we think, because we don't KNOW.
" A mind changed against its will, is of the same opinion still"
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Reply #9 posted 09/21/07 9:32am

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It is questionable whether indeed he has retired certain aspects of his past though.

His shows in London are full of innuendo and sex and hes even played cream and songs like that which he said he wouldnt play anymore due to his religious beliefs.
Oh Princey if your free for a couple of hours...If you aint busy for the next 7 years...Lets Pretend were married, and go all night..
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Reply #10 posted 09/21/07 10:36am

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pennylover said:

I do understand why he has retired some songs do to his religion and explicit lyrics, etc. He’s a very handsome man who has taken the most beautiful photos, even the commando ones boxed. I’m sure Prince has come across these threads with us drooling all over him lol. I just wonder and want 2 hear your views on this subject matter. Could this be one of the reasons he is responding 2 some of the fan sites. sad I understand You Tube but his fans that have dedicated so much 2 him? As fans have we gone 2 far? R we trying 2 dig 2 deep and invading his privacy? Has Prince become paranoid and frustrated with us?sad


He's a man of faith but he still performed a cheeky snippet of Darling Nikki last week at the O2 so what do you think? He doesn't seem remotely embarrassed by anything he's done. He might not perform Gett Off or Sexy MF these days but there's still plenty sexy stuff going on on stage, believe me. He's nowhere near as full on about his faith as he was just before he converted properly, when he was playing the Christ and talking endlessly about Jesus. I think he's mellowed since he got divorced from Manuela.
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Reply #11 posted 09/21/07 11:58am

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Everything that man has done in the past was part of a calculated effort that has put him where he is today.

I think it's pretty safe to say he regrets nothing. Though it would probably be healthier for him if he had at least a few regrets.
We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves.
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Reply #12 posted 09/21/07 12:03pm

WellInever

If so where does he send the royalties?
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Reply #13 posted 09/21/07 12:30pm

DigMeNow

I think this should answer your question about Prince's past and whether or not he is ashamed of it.

Oprah Interview

Question: Do you ever regret anything?

Prince: "No because eye think it's all part of the experience of life and growing;and it's gotten me 2 this place. Um, U take one thing out of that
and the structure falls, U know. So um, eye'm quite content. "



Most recent interview from Prince in Giant magazine:

Question: Was there a turning point for you when you bean to realize this?

Prince: "No, I always accepted it, but I didn't understand it until I got into
the Scriptures. When you read the Scriptures, you start to understand that, wait a minute, someone said this way before I did. I ain't the first one, If
society did this,we would have a paradigm shift, and everybody would all get along. Everyone is upposed to eat. Everybody is supposed to treat people with respect."


So to answer another part of the original question have the fans gone to far, digging into his private life, and is Prince frustrated with the fans. My opinion is that Prince certainly isn't pleased with all of the disrespect that is shown on the forums about him. Prince doesn't disrespect the fans, but some perceive that he is by asking for his videos to be removed off certain sites. In actuality Prince has every right to do this,it's his image and work and he made a decision as to how it should be distributed. People are way to quick to judge and jump on every little thing he does.
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Reply #14 posted 09/21/07 1:10pm

paintedlady

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I don't think Prince knows shame lol he danced around in panties on stage, and still doesn't care that we know he doesn't wear drawers....even if I told him his pubes were poking through the crotch of his pants and told him how many veins were in his johnson, he still wouldn't put panties on or line his pants confused

Still this man is frustrated that people are fixated on his sex life Well Prince....when you sing(or in your case brag) about your abilities in the sack, what do you expect? err rolleyes
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Reply #15 posted 09/21/07 1:20pm

electrorock

THE SAME as most if there were so many pics and recordings of the silly things we did when we were teenagers. thing is we all think its cute...
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Reply #16 posted 09/21/07 1:39pm

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electrorock said:

THE SAME as most if there were so many pics and recordings of the silly things we did when we were teenagers. thing is we all think its cute...

But when we grew up we changed our patterns, walk, talk, and dress...nobody has really checked him yet so he hasn't changed much
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Reply #17 posted 09/21/07 5:14pm

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paintedlady said:

I don't think Prince knows shame lol he danced around in panties on stage, and still doesn't care that we know he doesn't wear drawers....even if I told him his pubes were poking through the crotch of his pants and told him how many veins were in his johnson, he still wouldn't put panties on or line his pants confused

Still this man is frustrated that people are fixated on his sex life Well Prince....when you sing(or in your case brag) about your abilities in the sack, what do you expect? err rolleyes
[Edited 9/21/07 13:13pm]


Awww Lawd! rolleyes falloff
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Reply #18 posted 09/21/07 9:36pm

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prettylies said:

pennylover said:

I do understand why he has retired some songs do to his religion and explicit lyrics, etc. He’s a very handsome man who has taken the most beautiful photos, even the commando ones boxed. I’m sure Prince has come across these threads with us drooling all over him lol. I just wonder and want 2 hear your views on this subject matter. Could this be one of the reasons he is responding 2 some of the fan sites. sad I understand You Tube but his fans that have dedicated so much 2 him? As fans have we gone 2 far? R we trying 2 dig 2 deep and invading his privacy? Has Prince become paranoid and frustrated with us?sad



I'm not sure any of us are remotely qualified to say if he's ashamed of his past or not, though i'm not sure exactly what it is he's doing now to help you think he may be (prob me just being thick) ?

I'm becoming very aware tho' about what you're saying regarding fans being "dedicated so much to him", as this is cropping up a lot on threads.

I really don't see any relevence between Prince (his behaviour), his life and career choices.... and fans dedication to him. You ask a good question about are we going too deep invading his privacy. The way i'm feeling it, some people may be suffering with transference problems arising from the "relationship" they feel they have with Prince.

We don't have a real life relationship with this man. So many people on threads are saying what Prince feels, thinks, does, likes, etc as tho' stating FACT.. but it's transference. It's what the individual writing the thread or response to a thread "thinks" Prince feels or thinks. That's transference, no more no less. It has nothing to do with Prince.

It's maybe when Prince's own actions don't back up what a fan thought they would/should be, that possibly the fan feels Prince let them down or may be somehow angry or pissed at them.

You at least ask questions rather than stating facts in your thread, and for that I applaud you. Beause, the ONLY fact is, we don't collectively know what he's paranoid about or pissed about or what makes him tick. To discuss and debate is fascinating, but it is ultimately only what we think, because we don't KNOW.

Thank u so much prettylies 4 your kind words hug I appreciate all who have given input 2 my thread. wink
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Reply #19 posted 09/21/07 9:49pm

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Reply #20 posted 09/21/07 9:53pm

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I don't think he is ashamed of his past, I think he just wants to go another way with with his life JW beliefs.. (his mom's religion) maybe fulfilling a promise he made to her.


I think he still brags about the past and about how many women he has had (1000+), King Solomon's reference in recent interview. Princey that is pretty scary eek
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Reply #21 posted 09/21/07 11:30pm

DigMeNow

pplrain said:

I don't think he is ashamed of his past, I think he just wants to go another way with with his life JW beliefs.. (his mom's religion) maybe fulfilling a promise he made to her.


I think he still brags about the past and about how many women he has had (1000+), King Solomon's reference in recent interview. Princey that is pretty scary eek



lol I don't mean to laugh but you have that all wrong. Prince wasn't bragging whatsoever when he mentioned King Solomon having 1000 wives, or how many women he has been with!

Here is that part of the interview from Giant magazine:

Question: Throughout the past three decades, you have influenced music in so many ways. As an artist, you don't really have any peers--

Prince: --Hold on. If you write that, please just do me a favor, and put it in a way that gets the point across but doesn't dis anybody because my band and I are not in competition with anyone. If you're hanging out with Maceo Parker, who are you in competition with, really? At this age, it starts to more be about what the gift is and then what your role is. That's where the Scriptures come into play. As men, we're supposed to be humble. The ones that can't admit that are the ones that fall because they're caught up in worldly things like women,sex,drugs. The Bible is like the guidebook to help men and women with their sins. If I'm going to get some advice,wouldn't I want it from Solomon? That man had a thousand wives. I mean, I want to talk to the guy who had a thousand women!

I think he was basically saying that he could get the most advice from a man on relationships,marriage actually a lot of things. King Solomon is known for his wisdom and writings. He composed 3,000 proverbs and 1,005 songs. He wrote the Song of Songs, the Book of Proverbs and Ecclesiastes. In no way does it mean that Prince wishes to be with 1,000 women or has been with that many.

You can catch the train with an open heart and mind!
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Reply #22 posted 09/22/07 1:28am

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paintedlady said:

electrorock said:

THE SAME as most if there were so many pics and recordings of the silly things we did when we were teenagers. thing is we all think its cute...

But when we grew up we changed our patterns, walk, talk, and dress...nobody has really checked him yet so he hasn't changed much



which is great.

wer not all the same
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Reply #23 posted 09/22/07 4:00am

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I personally do not think that Prince is ashamed of his past, nor would he have any reason to be. His reasons behind what he is doing with youtube and other sites are only best known by him. I have also never considered Prince to be a braggart.
As fans I think that sometimes some of us do go to far in trying to pry into his personal life and thinking that we know all there is to know about him and his love life, when infact we dont.
Im sure he is very comfortable with who he is as a person and would feel as if he has no reason to be ashamed of anything....but then, I dont know him, so I guess I wouldnt really know lol
PRINCE IS WATCHING U evillol" When an Artist Creates, whatever they create belongs to society"chocolate chocolate chocolate chocolate chocolate chocolate chocolate

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Reply #24 posted 09/22/07 4:03am

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I personally do not think that Prince is ashamed of his past, nor would he have any reason to be. His reasons behind what he is doing with youtube and other sites are only best known by him. I have also never considered Prince to be a braggart.
As fans I think that sometimes some of us do go to far in trying to pry into his personal life and thinking that we know all there is to know about him and his love life, when infact we dont.
Im sure he is very comfortable with who he is as a person and would feel as if he has no reason to be ashamed of anything....but then, I dont know him, so I guess I wouldnt really know lol

As for pulling out some of his explicit songs for religious reasons or otherwise, thats his perogative and all we can do is respect his views even if some people might not agree with them.
Madonna re-invented herself enough times to make one dizzy. Why can't Prince do the same thing to reflect the changes in his life?
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Reply #25 posted 09/22/07 5:34am

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people change full stop. plus if you've been through tough times sometimes you turn to religion to have some faith in life. as long as he makes music and carries on performing live like he just has in London hes still amazing to me smile I don't think hes ashamed hes just not the same person now in some respects.
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Reply #26 posted 09/22/07 5:35am

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but then, I dont know him, so I guess I wouldnt really know lol

exactly we don't know him, he only wants to share his music with us nothing else
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Reply #27 posted 09/22/07 12:05pm

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Why do people keep sayin' he's changed?!! Prince has always come off as being a very spiritual person, and he's always surrounded himself around beautiful women, worn glammed out clothing,and did things to his liking despite negative reaction!
Prince is the same to me as he ever was,JW or not. His unique formula has always worked for him,and I don't see him changing his lifestyle anytime soon.
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Reply #28 posted 09/22/07 12:09pm

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People grow and mature and I'll leave it at that.
Peace and be wild!
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Reply #29 posted 09/22/07 12:22pm

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LoDog said:

People grow and mature and I'll leave it at that.

Prince mature in age yes, I'm talking about his habits and how he portrays himself to the public.....mellowed out a little yes, changed?....NO
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