berniejobs said:

I agree with that. But how many Official DVDs or VHS tapes of Concerts or Videos do U own of Prince?? Even back b4 the internet he barely released anything other than Records or his 3 movies. Its like he doesn't care about putting himself out there like he could. I agree its his buisiness..its like he just doesn't wanna showcase his best moments in Concert on Video. Doesn't he feel he's the best? He could prove it by doing this.

Not trying 2 start some MJ/Prince debate...but this is something Prince could learn from MJ. Michael NEVER had a problem with his fans..nor putting his videos for sale. I could go out today & own every single Official MJ video if I wanted to. Why??..because its Available. Prince just doesn't make his Legacy available 2 anybody. Sad but true.
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why are so many people calling prince gay as an insult on a website run by a flaming queen?

theghostoftonym said:

Quite the Irony ain't it? I was thinking the same thing!

I used to say the same thing back in the 90's.

Every jock had a red jeep with a NIN sticker on it.

These were the same people that called Prince a "fag".

Yet, Prince was married to Mayte at the time, who is a gorgeous woman.

Trent Reznor admitted to having bi-sexual tendencies (including a rumor of an affair with author Clive Barker).

Prince, married to a woman, versus Trent Reznor, who admittedly was bi. Yet, they consider Prince to be a "fag" as if it was a bad thing, which it isn't even if he was!

I'm a 16 year old female and I wear Prince shirts to school and always tell people I love his music no shame or worries of what they think so its all good. Alot of my friends like his music like from the 80's but thats better than saying they all hate him. So in my opinion he still appeals to the younger people, who appreciate real music not just let me tap that ass; wait till you see my...;blah blah blah whatever floats your boat .



But I respect others opinions too I just hate when people go out of their way just to break someone down.

Because they are idiots who love for people to fit their stereotypes. Just look at the black artists that they like. They want them all to look and act like ignorant thugs and fit that stereotype. It's possible that Prince could very well be gay, regardless of the women he's been around and the marriages he's experienced. He has the gay look and gestures but he carries himself in a strong manner and doesn't fit the weak, limp wristed "go off in a corner somewhere and cry because somebody called me a fag" stereotype. Prince simply doesn't give a damn one way or the other what people think of him and that scares the hell out them because they want all gay people to be weak.

vainandy said:

U never cease 2 amaze me Andy...so hilarious!

berniejobs said:

As is often the case when Prince has a "cause", it's not so much his point, but how he expresses it.

This would not be the first time that a straight forward, concise explaination for his actions would clear up perceptions, but that doesn't seem to be Prince's way.

I think Prince needs to take a good hard look at the comments on perez, digg, etc and realize that most people (eg. the general public) couldn't give two shits about him or his music. But instead he is focusing a lot of his money and attorney's energy on harassing FANsites---full of people who actually like the dude's music. Talk about biting the hand....


(btw, I understand the dude's beef with YouTube. But I think it's a Sisyphean task and instead of fighting it, he should flip the game and use it to his advantage. But his issue with people posting photos of him to which he does not own the copyright is all kinds of ridiculous....see my signature....)

ToraToraDreams said:

lol somewhere someone else is saying the same shit cause ppl around them dont understand nirvana,nin,oldskool hip hop...etc,etc....

No one could be more anti Prince right now than me, but perez hilton is the gutter , I imagine those sycophants will shit on anyone just to sound hip.

Could it be that he wants to shut it all down everywhere else so that he can open up a new site with music and videos...distributing the material his way!!?

Obsidian said:

I'd like to think that's his plan, but based on experience I don't think that's the case. After all wasn't that npgmc.com was for? (And he even shut that down...)

WHO THE FUCK IS PEREZ HILTON??!!??...I DON'T REALLY GIVE A SHIT.

PRINCE HAS BEEN AROUND LONG ENOUGH TO TAKE CARE OF HIMSELF. IF HE DOESNT WANT

HIS WORK OR UNAUTHORIZED PHOTOS ON THESE SITES, THATS HIS RIGHT. THE INTERNET

IS GETTTING OUUTTA HAND. SOMEONE NEEDS TO PUT THESE COMPANIES IN THEIR PLACES.

Y SHOULD THEY PROFIT FROM PRINCES LIFE OF WORK. THESE SITES..TOUTUBE..MYSPACE

ARE SHIT ANYWAY..HERE TODAY GONE TOMMOROW. WHEN THEY ARE GONE..PEOPLE WILL JUST

LOOK FOR THE NEXT FAD...I SAY TAKE EM ALL THE WAY TO COURT AND COLLECT!!!$$$

AND ALSO WHO CARES WHAT 16 YEAR OLDS THINK ANYWAY. THEY DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT THE

F_CK THEY WANT. WELL YES THEY DO..THEY WANT SHHIT HOP..BUBBLE GUM MUSIC..AND

THESE FLY BY NITE WEBSITES. THEYRE A DIME A DOZEN. NOTHING IN LIFE IS FREE..

EXCEPT LOVE.

PRINCES WORK HAS SPANNED OVER 30 YEARS AND WILL BE HERE FOR A LONG TIME TO COME.

PEOPLE..RELAX AND LET IT FLOW. ENJOY PRINCE WHILE U CAN..CAUSE WHEN HE REALLY

DECIDES TO GO..WERE ALL IN TROUBLE!! PEACE!

That's if Prince doesn't sue you for that too.

Whatever they said, he deserves it for pulling such a douchebag stunt.

ifiwereadolphin said:

His website gets over 8 million hits a day. Way more powerful than Prince right now.

Yes, he's demonstrated that beautifully. Most of the public don't know who he is besides a washed up, weird 80's has been trying to recapture his former glory.

And fair enough. But, as he says, in this digital age, he NEEDS to give fans some other official outlet in order to keep them happy. I tell you, once this is all over, there won't be many fans left. He will gain NO new ones in the process, either.
You overdosing on the purple kool aid is getting out of hand. Nothing on the net is "getting out of hand" it's just that Prince is too up himself to even give us fans, who pay his bills, a chance to actually SEE his older work. IF HE'S SO PROTECTIVE OF IT HE SHOULD JUST PULL EVERYTHING HE'S EVER RELEASED AND SLAM IT IN THE VAULT. IF HE'S SOOOO SENSITIVE ABOUT HAVING PEOPLE SEEING IT WHY THE FUCK DID HE RELEASE IT? YOU DON'T SAY "OH HERE WATCH THIS VIDEO, LISTEN TO THIS SONG AND PAY FOR IT PLEASE" ONLY TO SAY THEY CAN'T DO THAT A FEW YEARS LATER BUT STILL EXPECT THEM TO COUGH UP 3000 DOLLARS TO SEE HIM LIVE.


Kinda like Prince's career soon, huh? Youtube was bought by Google for 1 billion dollars. That kind of money doesn't get thrown around for a "fad" website. Youtube and myspace ARE the future of music advertising whether you or Prince like it or not. Myspace is MASSIVE now and has over 200 MILLION people joined to it. Say it with me TWO HUNDRED MILLION! They're not gaining that much money from videos being uploaded anyway. It's free to upload videos so what exactly are they gaining?

They're not just 16 year olds. A lot of celebrities read and support that website. Perez is a very powerful man these days and he gets a 6 figure sum every year from what he does. Unknown bands become overnight sensations when he advertises them. Tabloid magazines basically rely on him to get the exclusives for them these days. And these "16 year olds" are the general buying public aka the ones lining Prince's pockets. Well, they were. Now because there's no way of seeing his videos or hearing his songs, they'll keep buying SHIT HOP.


How old are you exactly? Would you have been happy with someone saying this about you when you were 16? Weren't you listening to Prince when you were 16 while all the adults around you derided him as satanic music and tried to censor him?

Well, apparently Prince has all his girlfriends sign confidentiality agreements so apparently even love isn't free in Prince's books anymore.

Dont' you get it? HES ALREADY OVER. This has sealed the deal and once he isn't visible anymore, he's DONE. That's it. Sure, he'll keep doing concerts but no one will know and no one will give a damn because they will cost the earth to see and people in the wrong country or people who can't make it won't be able to see pictures, watch video or experience it in any way. PRINCES CAREER AS A VISIBLE STAR IS OFFICIALLY DEAD NOW.

We're in trouble? hahahahahhahahaah! NOT! In some way, it'll be easier! Because he won't be around to sue our asses when we wanna use his famous face as our avatar! You're telling us to relax when you put your whole pose in caps?!

Somebody said that Prince little purple grapes should be cut off....
And that was a Prince fan I think

Ya'll leave his grapes alone!!!!

We should bum-rush that place and tell them all off!
[Edited 9/16/07 22:57pm]

interesting thread

god, it's 1997 all over again.

Same ol' bullshit...

Damn..and just when I thought '07 would be a good year 4 Prince. I'm really concerned with how this will effect his career. Fighting WB is one thing...but fighting his fans might cost him....Big Time.

SexyBeautifulOne said:

POST OF THE WEEK!

ifiwereadolphin said:

Chris Crokcer..... whats up?!?

berniejobs said:

You're missing a very important point that even Prince doesn't understand: If artists gave fans what they really wanted,there would be no need for something like YouTube.Bootleggers wouldn't even be in business! Many artists have very weak "official" sites,and some don't even include their music videos on their sites.Thanks to YouTube,I can see almost any music video,whenever I want.It's not about "stealing" from the artist.Obviously,if I'm sitting at a computer watching one of his old music videos,I'm clearly a fan who has spent alot of money on him.Prince is too dumb to realize that YouTube is another form of exposure and promotion for him,at a time when the video channels (MTV,VH-1) rarely show videos anymore.He should be embracing this concept.

Prince (and other artists) can't control the Internet.File-sharing will never be stopped.Fans will always find ways to obtain this stuff.He needs to be realistic about these things and stop acting like a paranoid,overly controlling asshole.You may wanna do the same.You say you're a musician.Surely the last thing you would want to do is alienate potential fans? That's exactly what you'd be doing if you follow Prince's lead.


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[Edited 9/17/07 4:44am]

Hilarious!

So Perez Hilton is a credible website and barometer for Prince's success and appeal?

The people who frequent Perez Hilton are the kind of people who are 'well-informed'?

Prince is coming to the end of a sell-out 21 date tour in the UK in a 23,000 seater arena. His 2004 'Musicology' tour was the most successful in the US that year. If that is the 'end times' what the fuck was 1999-2001?

totaldiva said:

Exactly!! I don't know why he doesn't think like this.As long as he has a shitty official site,with very little stuff that fans actually want to see,fans are gonna look elsewhere for videos.He's gonna soon learn that (in the Internet era) he can't really control what people see,and how and where they see it.

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[Edited 9/17/07 3:43am]

PerezHilton is a clown.

OperatingThetan said:

Tours don't mean shit anymore. Yes, they're good for diehard fans but as for sales and overall success as an artist, tours don't even come into it. The fact that you didn't list anything to do with the actual success of his recent CDs tells me A LOT. Plus, he barely sings material from his new CDs on tour so basically we're paying to see the 80s hits we fell in love with and nothing more.

Like it, like it

berniejobs said: