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Reply #30 posted 09/22/07 9:02am

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violett said:

jonylawson said:

i think me needs to school a newbie

the" black album" by name NEVER existed-prince released an album with NO name and a black cover with only a cat no.(in peach)
of WX147-back in december 87

the media coined the phrase"the black album"

if you have that origianl--congrats your a very rich man!!!!

it was officially released by WB in 95


what i have is a tape. it has nothing on an all black cover except for the peach colored WX147.

believe what you want. i listened to it in my car yesterday and re-looked at the case itself to make sure that i hadnt mis-spoken on this thread. and i havent.

nana





AGAIN, what you're debating is the TIMING.

IF you have said tape, WHEN did you acquire it?

It wasn't before '94, i'd wager.
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Reply #31 posted 09/22/07 12:12pm

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jonylawson said:

suomynona said:

There are so many inaccuracies in this article that it's not worth reading. Vinyl only? Really? Someone needs to point Lindsey to a website called Google.


true-only vinyl exists of the black album-the original-12 apparently.shipped from germany in 87 when it was due for a dec.release

of course black exists on cd re-released etc


jonylawson said:


i am saying that floating around the market is twelve vinyl copies apparently NO CDS OR CASSETES escaped that pressing plant in germany.


There is also some cd's floating around from 1987. It was not only vinyl. A longbox release.No CD's were pressed in germany but in the US some got out.
Bob George was on warner's sampler (but that's from hearsay so cannot be verified).

credit:Yormeister



Also besides the vinyl bootleg copies cd bootlegs followed quickly.

Photo's
http://users.skynet.be/yo...kalbum.htm

general info about vinyl
http://www.theblackalbum.info
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Reply #32 posted 09/22/07 4:04pm

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So this is the kind of rubbish that passes for writing these days? It reads like something you'd find on some high schooler's blog..."play Vegas like he’s Wayne friggin’ Newton or somebody? Too fuckin’ rich!". Wow, like, totally awseome writing, dude! Did someone actually pay this idiot to write this adolescent twaddle? I guess you shouldn't expect too much from a world in which Adam Sandler is revered as a comic genius and Kanye West is called an "artist". Bring on the asteroid, Lord, its time!.
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Reply #33 posted 09/22/07 5:44pm

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spaceboy said:[quote]

jonylawson said:



jonylawson said:


i am saying that floating around the market is twelve vinyl copies apparently NO CDS OR CASSETES escaped that pressing plant in germany.


There is also some cd's floating around from 1987. It was not only vinyl. A longbox release.No CD's were pressed in germany but in the US some got out.
Bob George was on warner's sampler (but that's from hearsay so cannot be verified).

credit:Yormeister





Also besides the vinyl bootleg copies cd bootlegs followed quickly.

Photo's
http://users.skynet.be/yo...kalbum.htm

general info about vinyl
http://www.theblackalbum.info
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NOBODY IS DEBATING that a million bootlegs exist.....im just saying that only 12 x original wx147's exist
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Reply #34 posted 09/22/07 6:35pm

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WTF is this shiznit!?!?!?!?!? falloff If these people are telling their kids that Hanna Montana is the devil and they once were into Prince or still into to Prince it's something seriously wrong with them. Besides aren't you supposed to know what real music is? Then why are your kids listening to that stuff? Hanna Montana ain't that Billy Ray Cyrus's daughter nuff said! lol
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Reply #35 posted 09/23/07 2:52pm

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jonylawson said:

spaceboy said:



There is also some cd's floating around from 1987. It was not only vinyl. A longbox release.No CD's were pressed in germany but in the US some got out.
Bob George was on warner's sampler (but that's from hearsay so cannot be verified).

credit:Yormeister





Also besides the vinyl bootleg copies cd bootlegs followed quickly.

Photo's
http://users.skynet.be/yo...kalbum.htm

general info about vinyl
http://www.theblackalbum.info
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[Edited 9/22/07 12:27pm]


NOBODY IS DEBATING that a million bootlegs exist.....im just saying that only 12 x original wx147's exist


I always heard the number 50 (in a box that carried out hust in time). Where did you get the info of the 12? I reckon the guy of the info site would like to know.

I'm not sure if there is a problem with your keyboard. Your caps seems to be stuck sometimes. I wasn't debating just pointing something out to someone who is teaching other. wink
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Reply #36 posted 09/23/07 8:43pm

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LeGrind is the best, Cindy C. as well. The Black Album does need to grow on ya though!
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Reply #37 posted 09/26/07 7:04am

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I'm sure Per Nilsen states The Black Album was only available (originally in 1987) on vinyl... and I'll take his word over any "Ooooh I've got an original Cassette/CD!!!" post here or anywhere. So unless you gotsta a spankin' LP with a particular number on it, stop dreamin'.

Bob George gets my vote. Where I get my username from, heh. Excellent dark, and funky.
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Reply #38 posted 09/26/07 11:12am

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does anyone know who plays the mean bass-solo in 2 Nigs United 4 West Compton? Is it P?
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Reply #39 posted 09/26/07 11:18am

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CaptainJack said:

does anyone know who plays the mean bass-solo in 2 Nigs United 4 West Compton? Is it P?


Don't know officially, but the style of play is definitely Princely. I've always regarded it as him.

Otherwise, it would be Levi, but it just don't sound like him.
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Reply #40 posted 10/01/07 1:02pm

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I wonder whether Prince has already read Hanif Kureishi's Black Album?
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Reply #41 posted 10/09/07 10:08am

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ButterscotchPimp said:

suomynona said:

There are so many inaccuracies in this article that it's not worth reading. Vinyl only? Really? Someone needs to point Lindsey to a website called Google.



If you read the article (please read before over-reacting) is clearly states that ORIGINALLY the album was only available as a bootleg on vinyl. there were tons of cassettes that were made (usually bad copies of someone taping it from vinyl).


YEARS LATER, it was released as a cd on Warner.



good god, anytime some of you purple sheep sense any kind of criticism, you go on the attack.


lol I thought it was me. Back then, I don't think I even knew what a CD was! Yeah, the way I remember it, it was an impossible to find vinyl record and everyone had a half-assed, smudged up, badly-labeled cassette tape "tHe BlAck albuM" that hissed and cracked and warbled like a mo'fo.

It was gold.

Talking about tone-deaf rappers and calling himself a "skinny mutha-f**er with a high voice", Prince made a rekkid that was indeed a bitch.

I should get the re-released CD version because soon enough cassette tape players will go the way of the 8-Track...

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Reply #42 posted 10/12/07 6:38am

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suomynona said:

There are so many inaccuracies in this article that it's not worth reading. Vinyl only? Really? Someone needs to point Lindsey to a website called Google.


cant say i agree with you about this article, although it is a bit sketchy, it is still an interesting read and brought back a few fond memories. I think I ended up with more copies of the black album than any other prince album.

BTW that is an incredible Prince CD collection you have, was stunned looking at it today. Well done wink
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Reply #43 posted 10/12/07 5:14pm

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ButterscotchPimp said:

If you read the article (please read before over-reacting) is clearly states that ORIGINALLY the album was only available as a bootleg on vinyl.


Sheesh. No, it doesn't say that. It says:

A vinyl-only, eight-song funk free-for-all, it was supposed to be Prince’s big fuck-you to those who thought the Minneapolis kid was going too soft after the commercial success of Purple Rain.


No mention of the word bootleg anywhere. Don't make stuff up.

ButterscotchPimp said:

there were tons of cassettes that were made (usually bad copies of someone taping it from vinyl).


Pur-lease. Excellent quality dubs were circulating mere months later. It was even played on radio (Holland, Germany,...).

ButterscotchPimp said:

YEARS LATER, it was released as a cd on Warner.


And YEARS earlier it was on bootleg CD. Which was a straight rip from a CD that fell through the cracks. Initially, original TBA CDs were highly valued and were sold for tons of money.

ButterscotchPimp said:

good god, anytime some of you purple sheep sense any kind of criticism, you go on the attack.


Making up more stuff. We attack the FACTUALLY WRONG STUFF.
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Reply #44 posted 10/12/07 5:25pm

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jonylawson said:

BartVanHemelen said:



Dude, per-lease. There were CRYSTAL CLEAR copies floating around pretty soon, and not from vinyl rips. At least a handful of CDs also slipped through the net.


i am saying that floating around the market is twelve vinyl copies apparently NO CDS OR CASSETES escaped that pressing plant in germany.


http://www.xeon-networks....a_faq.html

However, in 1991 a legitimate copy of The Black Album, in CD format, sold at an auction for $11,000.00. Since 1992, other originals have turned up from time to time and are peaking their value around at $9,000.00.


http://en.wikipedia.org/w...8Prince%29
http://upload.wikimedia.o...ssing.jpeg

Please explain where bootleggers got CRYSTAL CLEAR copies of TBA for CD releases if there were no CDs that had escaped? Please explain how ORIGINAL CDs were auctioned for huge sums of money, yet you claim they don't exist?
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Reply #45 posted 10/12/07 5:33pm

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skinnyMF said:

I'm sure Per Nilsen states The Black Album was only available (originally in 1987) on vinyl... and I'll take his word over any "Ooooh I've got an original Cassette/CD!!!" post here or anywhere. So unless you gotsta a spankin' LP with a particular number on it, stop dreamin'.


So those rich fans who paid thousands of dollars for ORIGINAL CD COPIES at auctions weren't buying original items, but bad bootleg copies? Sure, whatever. Sheesh, people post PHOTOS of the damn thing and you still pretend they don't exist.
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Reply #46 posted 10/12/07 5:59pm

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Your 100% on the money with this one Bart...

My old cassette copy circa 1994.. has just turned into Gold!

An extremely overated record in the Prince Canon anyway bar 2 Nigs and

Bob George....The rest blah..i think he probably pulled it because Sign..

destroyed it in every way.....
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Reply #47 posted 10/12/07 10:52pm

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jonylawson said:

i think me needs to school a newbie

eek Violett a newbie?? giggle

violett said:

jonylawson said:

i think me needs to school a newbie

the" black album" by name NEVER existed-prince released an album with NO name and a black cover with only a cat no.(in peach)
of WX147-back in december 87

the media coined the phrase"the black album"

if you have that origianl--congrats your a very rich man!!!!

it was officially released by WB in 95


what i have is a tape. it has nothing on an all black cover except for the peach colored WX147.

believe what you want. i listened to it in my car yesterday and re-looked at the case itself to make sure that i hadnt mis-spoken on this thread. and i havent.

nana

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Reply #48 posted 10/15/07 4:46am

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BartVanHemelen said:

Making up more stuff. We attack the FACTUALLY WRONG STUFF.
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"We"?? hmmm Time to see your shrink dude! nod
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