I am kind of tiresome because he is not doing anything anywhere I can go to. I'm sure if he'd be in Vegas, I'd be following all reports and be on the org more often.
It goes on and off!

Riverpoet31 said:

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"R&B-tracks to satisfy his R&B fanbase"

Yes, it so bad for P to appeal to the fanbase that has been with him since 1978
(LOL) I am begining to think you have a serious dislike for anything African-American oriented but, realize P is black.

laurarichardson said:

oh god damn.

Prince is NOT black. we voted on this years ago



Mods. Please update the Q&A section of this thread, and put this subject to bed.
Thanks!

Imago said:

Prince is not black? What do you mean?

Riverpoet31 said:

The Gold Experience (1995) is widely considered a masterpiece, and (1992) is in the top half of Prince's albums.

tricky99 said:

Amen

If there was anything left to say to "...poet" - besides something about the grammatical errors - it would simply be

I'm not getting tired of current day Prince.
I quite enjoy these last three cds.

I never got the so-called fans who accuse Prince of being too preachy

Were you not listening when he put the Lord's Prayer in the middle of Controversy?

Or during the PURPLEN RAIN TOUR when he said that Jesus was the one true god. Or when he performed a song called GOD

Or when he said that Let's Go Crazy was a gospel song

Did you have your stereo down during songs like The Ladder, The Cross, The entire Lovesexy album, Elephants and Flowers, etc..

I think maybe one too many Jehovah Witnessess knocked on your door on a Saturday morning and now you're taking it out on Prince.

Imago said:

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A vote was taken but, nothing changed. He is still black.

I'm completely sick of Prince today with all the preaching and the whole stance on new technology. Did he really need to ruin such a beautiful song in Somewhere Here On Earth by rambling on about the "digital age" like some 80 year old? Grow up Prince! Embrace technology! Sure, "real" music is fantastic, but technology is nothing to be afraid of or dis just because you don't understand it.

The youtube thing is appauling and embarassing. No other artists fans have to deal with their fave singer being so stingy he can't even let his videos, that HE RELEASED, been seen by the people lining his pockets with their money. Well, that's if he believes in any of us enough to think we actually don't just download his songs on our evil computers, cackling to ourselves.

As if that wasn't annoying enough - now he's decided that because of religious beliefs he's not going to sing the songs that freakin' made him famous and an icon but he doesn't mind singing a B grade excuse (black sweat) for the genius he used to sing. Oh yeah, no one's allowed to swear or be vulgar around him but HE'S allowed to sing about taking his clothes off - but not to the tune of the songs that got him where he is today. To the tune Pharrell had already been doing for the last 6 years over and over again. Yeah, great.


And the whole religion thing - fine, I could care less what your religion is, but I DONT want to be hearing about friggin Moses when I'm trying to groove to Chelsea Rodgers. I want to be able to play Prince's stuff to my friends and show them what an amazing artist he is and as if they're gonna give me two seconds of their time when they hear about being "baptized according to the master plan" - what the fuck? Just dance Prince, RELAX!!

All the no photos, no videos, no fucking anything oh but please cough up 3000 dollars if you wanna see me perform. Sorry, but I'm not dumb enough to just blindy accept all this shit because he's a "genius". Or was.

purplesweat said:

I agree with you about the YouTube situation. I can watch BRITNEY SPEARS, but I cannot watch PRINCE!

I forgot to add: However, I will continue to love his MUSIC! If not the man!
[Edited 9/2/07 16:58pm]

Rodya24 said:

Exactly! He harps on and on about "musicology" and "teachin' those young'ns real music" and "you can't do that with a computer!" blah fucking blah BUT whoever he wants to teach can't even LEARN if whenever we log on we get "This video has been removed because the artist is turning into a grumpy old man..but pay him megabucks to go to his concerts! Whatta genius!" Please.

And that whole thing with selling Musicology and PE with the tickets, that doesn't actually mean the album sold well, Prince.

purplesweat said:

Ya know what's funny?....Many people (I'm guessing the younger fans) were complaining how backwards or retro the comment was about "paging him" in the song "Somewhere Here On Earth." There are a number of fans who didn't think it was strange for Prince to mention "paging" or the digital age in this song. Many people including myself didn't think anything of it because "paging" is still alive and extremely widely used...and by some of the most IMPORTANT job descriptions in the world! I think Prince understands technology VERY well....if anything...suggesting that someone should "page" him is more of an elitist comment!

This thread is hilarious and pointless... All the wining in the world is not going to change things to suit those who don't like his newer music, or the way he does or doesn't present himself to the world. Why does everything have to make perfect sense? Why can't there be some missing pieces to a purple puzzle?

Some people need a hobby, or a second job to use up some of that SPARE time wasted worrying over videos that can no longer be viewed! My Gosh...you might even enjoy the next album because you didn't spend so much time "sweating the small stuff!!"

Obsidian said:

Well, the whole thing about "paging" is so not what I meant. I meant he can't just sing about wanting a woman he really loves without suddenly voicing off about being in the digital age. It totally ruins the mood of the whole song and makes him sound way older than he is. I never actually bagged him for using the word "paging" so I suggest you RE-READ what I wrote and understand it before you go telling me how "elite" he is.

And if Prince understood new technology, he'd be taking advantage of it x100. Think of the promo he could get out of it. But no, be a complete and utter grump and SHUT DOWN your myspace just as your new album comes out. Yeah, no wonder no person under 28 knows or cares who he is today.

Obsidian said:

So according to you the only threads that aren't "hilarious and pointless" are those which worship him and accept all the shitty things he does? Of course it's not going to change anything but it's obvious his spies read this website a lot so I'm gonna say what I feel in the hope that they get a freakin' clue. It's not about making sense or being perfect, it's just about relaxing a bit and not being so uptight about stuff that doesn't need worrying about like videos on youtube.

It's like he's gotten so obsessed with money that he'll only let us see/hear/smell things of his that cost money and if he's not getting any financial gain out of it - then it's not worth it!

He probably didn't do any music videos for this album because when they're aired on MTV, he doesn't recieve any money!

I don't need a hobby to occupy my "spare time", it's got nothing to do with me being bored - it's simply what I see and I'm voicing my opinion on it.

If I were Prince, you'd be lapping this up and worshipping me.

laurarichardson said:[quote]

Riverpoet31 said:

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"R&B-tracks to satisfy his R&B fanbase"

Yes, it so bad for P to appeal to the fanbase that has been with him since 1978
(LOL) I am begining to think you have a serious dislike for anything African-American oriented but, realize P is black.[/quote]

ain't that the truth. That statement may take the hump out the camels back

Paris9748430 said:

Elephants & Flowers is a religous song?
Well I'll be damned.
Guess you can tell I never have paid
much attention to those lyrics. !

Riverpoet31 said:

now what about the other albums where he's catered 2 the pop fanbase? was that a dumb mistake? just because u don't like funk (even tho there is NONE on planet earth) u need 2 realize he will always b more of a funk/ r & b artist than pop/rock.

wlcm2thdwn said:

yes he has ..look at the setlists from london ..sounds like a going back 2 me

purplecam said:

hey play me some of those 45's u got over there ..I AIN'T LEAVING!!!

Thank you. That's why I was happier in the years when Prince was getting airplay on R&B stations only. I knew his broader audience would want him to get more and more diverse and eventually would want him to get away from making the type of music that his early fans wanted. Those fans supported him for years before he crossed over and are the ones that got him to the point that he could cross over. Without their support, he wouldn't have made it to "Purple Rain".....remember The Rolling Stones concert incident in 1981?

I just want to come in and add that I am not tired of current day Prince.

In fact, it was current day Prince that first caught my attention and turned me into a fan.

(Also brainwashing by my obsessive husband lol.)

Riverpoet31 said:

I’m one of the few fans who does understand your thread.
Every year I’m curious if Prince’s new album is exciting again ...
Every year I’m disappointed again.
3121 was the first album in 18 years which got me a little bit excited, so I was eagerly awaiting Planet Earth, which turned out to be one of the worst Prince albums ever.

But this doesn’t mean I’m no fan anymore. I still adore the first 11 albums. I’m still anxious to hear the new releases. But I just find his releases after LoveSexy mediocre. After 1988 Prince ain’t revolutionary anymore, other artists took his position. But that’s no shame: being on top for 10 years is a great achievement. I really don’t understand the new fans who adore the 90’s and 00’s.
Haven’t they listened to the older Prince albums? Don’t they listen to other artists? Do they like mainstream music instead of the alternative music?
Back in the 80’s Prince’s music was considered alternative / revolutionary. Nowadays we got used to the music-category Prince created, but that doesn’t make his 80’s albums less revolutionary.
But this lollypop music Prince released in the 90’s and 00’s isn’t exactly my thing.
I really have no problem that the majority on the org does like these albums, but I don’t understand them and don’t agree with them ...

So those replies like "leave this site / stop following Prince" don’t make any sense to me.
We don’t agree with you on a discussion-site, so we have to leave the site:
That would make an interesting discussion.

Those adoring the 80’s think they’re the superior fans
Those adoring the 90’s think they’re the superior fans too
So what ... we all have our own opinion, and we can discuss it here.
If you don’t like the 90’s / 00’s you’re considered to be a cunt for spreading your opinion,
If you repeatedly post the positive critics you’re a Hero

Yeah ... the new album is great!

I'm only been in this world for 7 months... u can't expect me to get tired of "Prince @ present" (that's what I call him).

And Planet Earth was brilliant in comparison 2 3121...
it didnt sound like it fit directly into the era we're in now music-wise. It was just Prince being himself, but applying the knowledge he's gained along the way (both about his religious beliefs and himself).

And I think he's in a really good place right now, and as long as he's happy, I'm happy.

"not I, said the cat."

ThataintFunky said:

I have been a fan since 84 and i adore his 90's and current music minus Planet Earth more now then the 80's just because it's a case of been there done that. this is where he's at now. evolution can b hard 2 some. i don't want the same prince of the 80's due 2 the fact that his age dictates the need 4 a more mature person than someone at the age of 49 humping a stage singing about sex all the time. if he keeps bringing the funk i'm happy.

tricky99 said:

Exactly hes his own person, if you dont like something on TV you switch channels, so just listen to something else...

Again i am accused on this thread about being against afro-americans or something. Those reactions make no sense at all, they are rather painfull IMO.

When i am talking about 'generic R&B songs' i am talking about a style of music: a watered down, plastic form of 'soul' that is lacking all the excitement of the original musical style, most importantly: the soul.

Maybe as an european i use another definition for R&B then a lot of people in america do, but for me: its the kind of polished, poppified take on soul and funk that started with the whole New Jack Swing-thing in the early nineties, or maybe even earlier with the Jimmy Jam / Terry Lewis productions.

Beside of that, it seems like everytime i critisize modern 'R&B' some people in here see that as an attack on afro-americans, which leads them to make me feel like some sort of 'racist'. The fact is: it isn't what i am about or pointing at, it is in the mind of those people.

This is one of the issues that comes on this site all the time and I'm getting pretty sick of it.

Most of you, I'm sure, have had to live thru this debate for a couple of years now. It's only been 1/2 a year for me and I'm sick of it.

I put his happiness above everything else. And as long as he's happy with what he's doing, I'll back him up 100%.

And the fact I like Planet Earth as much as I do is a huge bonus cuz it made me really see where his head and mind is right now and it's in a good place as far as I can tell.