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Reply #30 posted 09/10/07 4:15pm

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skywalker said:

BTW--IF Prince "owned the 80's" from 1980-1988 howscome his record sales don't reflect that. Someone said The Beatles "owned the 60's" (which is not true) but at least they have massive record sales and cultural signifigance to back it up.

Face it, the masses were not exactly eating up Prince from '85-'88. Sure, we Prince fans loved those years, but we see it with purple tinted glasses. In the US, [b]it wasn't until Batman that he hit Purple Rain levels of mass success again.
All of his career it has mostly been his fanbase buying all of his albums with the masses tuning in here and there.

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I disagree with that... Nothing compares to Purple rain levels.
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Reply #31 posted 09/10/07 4:33pm

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krayzie said:

skywalker said:

BTW--IF Prince "owned the 80's" from 1980-1988 howscome his record sales don't reflect that. Someone said The Beatles "owned the 60's" (which is not true) but at least they have massive record sales and cultural signifigance to back it up.

Face it, the masses were not exactly eating up Prince from '85-'88. Sure, we Prince fans loved those years, but we see it with purple tinted glasses. In the US, [b]it wasn't until Batman that he hit Purple Rain levels of mass success again.
All of his career it has mostly been his fanbase buying all of his albums with the masses tuning in here and there.

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I disagree with that... Nothing compares to Purple rain levels.


Yeah really... nothing else he's done has yet to touch the "timelessness" of PR.
had 2 run away... pride was 2 strong. It started raining, baby, the birds were gone
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Reply #32 posted 09/11/07 12:50am

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love2thenines2003 said:

The top of the Prince music 1980-1988 ….a constant evolution… a max taking risk….a revolution in the sound ..... a permanent questioning ..... out-standard quality ..... 8 years of PURE HAPPINESS ..... the antithesis of the years 2003-2007 !


This is my point of view...what's yours?


um... that's 9 years, not 8 geek
personally, i'd go up to 1990
and probably put 1979 in there too
heck, 1978 as well
"Just As Long As We're Together" dancing jig
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Reply #33 posted 09/11/07 1:58am

LexNevermind

As a fan who lived thru the late 70's and early 80's as a die hard tru blu prince fan..I can say that Prince has fell off the wagon that made him what he was in tyhe first place..dare we not forget The Time and Vanity 6's Nasty Girl...nothing from Prince to me since SOTT....
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Reply #34 posted 09/11/07 8:55am

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I also agree that 1980-1988 was peak Prince. The guy was at the peak of his powers musically and each album was different and exciting. No album sounded like any other act either, and was uniquely Prince. His 90's material with Diamonds and Pearls and Emancipation the highlights for me, was otherwise very stale and the Symbol and Gold albums were about as bland as it gets. Worse they don't even sound like Prince albums, and could be another R&B act altogether. However for all of his albums that have not soared as highly as his 80's material, there has still been a slew of great songs from him. 3121 was a slight return to form, followed by a huge dip with Planet Earth. Who knows what the next album will bring, but one thing is for sure it won't be as ground breaking as his 80's work. But it could be a good Prince album, and I will take that gladly!

80's master list:

1. Dirty Mind
2. Controversy
3. 1999
4. Purple Rain
5. ATWIAD
6. Parade
7. SOTT
8. Black Album
9. Lovesexy
10. 1988 Small Club Aftershow 2 disc set (greatest Prince live show on soundboard)

Hall of fame artist for that list alone, and still releasing an album every year for almost 30 years now. Amazing stuff.
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Reply #35 posted 09/11/07 9:24am

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My knowledge is mostly in the 80's cuz I own more 80's albums.

Not to mention I've heard more 80's albums.

So far, all I have 2 go on for the 90's is D&P, prince (ironically, Prince's last stand until the next millennium), Come and TGE.
All of which hold something of interest to me.
D&P holds untapped knowledge, I guess... cuz I haven't had the time 2 chill with it and get the full feel of it.
prince is one huge party, which is a lot of fun 4 me (and apparently 4 Prince as well).
Come is very experimental & tight, which I dig.
TGE is huge and full of very heart-felt & fun, new material.

I also own Rave & one another "mystery" album, but I've only heard Rave once... and that could very well change my attitude about the 90's. And the other obscure choice... I don't know what'll happen with that until I listen 2 it, but it most likely will make all the difference.
had 2 run away... pride was 2 strong. It started raining, baby, the birds were gone
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Reply #36 posted 09/11/07 9:03pm

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Prince started in 1978 with "Soft and Wet" on R&B radio. I don't how successful it is because I had never heard of Prince until 1979. I don't think it was very successful though because most of my friends (who had previously listened to R&B radio) had never heard of "Soft and Wet" until around the time I heard in 1981 during the "Controversy" era, when a local DJ did a Prince double play....Controversy/Soft and Wet. When I heard it, I started asking around and every one of them were clueless.

Prince had a moderate hit with "I Wanna Be Your Lover" during the disco era. Both pop and R&B fans were aware of this song because disco crossed all color lines. This is during the era when I first discovered Prince. After the death of disco, I switched over to R&B radio (the closest sounding thing to disco) and continued hearing Prince, and the pop crowd completely forgot about him and didn't play another one of his songs until 1982's "Little Red Corvette".

All throughout the "Dirty Mind", "Controversy", and the beginning of the "1999" eras, Prince was well known and loved exclusively on R&B radio only. After pop fans discovered "Little Red Corvette", mainly because of MTV, Prince had to go and re-release the first single "1999" which had been out for months, had already been a favorite of R&B fans, and the song had gone out of style on R&B radio which had moved on to "Lady Cab Driver"...a song that everyone had hoped would have been the second single, instead of "Little Red Corvette"....well, either "Lady Cab Driver" or "D.M.S.R.".....we used to have fights about which one we wanted to be the second single. lol

Throughout "Little Red Corvette" through the "Purple Rain" album and movie eras, Prince was well known in both the pop and R&B worlds. During the "Purple Rain" era he was huge.

After "Purple Rain", Prince changed his style and started exploring other types of music other than just his trademark funk/rock cold sound with a slow jam here and there. He got all psychodelic, started using orchestras, did a folk sounding song, started getting into jazz, started added horns and things to his funk....in other words, got all artsy/fartsy. A lot of the late 1980s consisted of fans buying a new Prince album, hoping Prince had returned to his old self like he was either during "Purple Rain" or the years before it, getting the album home, and finding out that artsy/fartsy Prince was still here. Prince picked up a lot of European fans during these years but lost a lot of American fans.

As for the big three being Michael Jackson, Madonna, and Prince, that would be in 1983 and 1984 only. After that, the big three was Michael Jackson, Madonna, and that motherfucking Shitney fuckin' ass Houston who came along to kill the funk. lol
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Why do people say that, Disco did not die.It seems to still be alive and well on the radio...
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Reply #37 posted 09/11/07 9:23pm

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Tame said:

Why do people say that, Disco did not die.


It didn't really die. There was just a huge backlash against it by pop/rock fans. The funk of the early 1980s was very similar to disco. That's why I switched to R&B radio in 1979 after disco's official "death". Disco was also reincarnated in the mid to late 80s as house music and lived on until around 1992 or 1993 before going back underground.

It seems to still be alive and well on the radio...


Well, I wish I had the same radio stations that you have. All the ones in my area are nothing but shit hop.
Andy is a four letter word.
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