J Holiday's BED song is sexier than any thing prince has done since scandalous.....

why is prince letting these youngsters run circles around him?
Reggie Jamz also has a song called Too Late that is another prince killer!

Will Prince fight back? or get badly out done again like R Kelly did him in the 90's?

here is a quote from j holiday....

J. Holiday doesn’t pull any punches when he offers his take on the current state of R&B. “Rhythm and Blues is lacking storytellers right now,” insists the candid 23-year-old singer/songwriter. Holiday then pauses, name checks the late legendary singer Otis Redding as if to show his soul credentials and asks, “Where’s our generations’ ‘Sitting on the Dock of the Bay?’ Lately, it seems hip-hop has been birthing all of the great storytellers. It’s time to show that R&B is way more than just dance music. That’s what I’m trying to convey with my music. I won’t settle for less.”

Will prince ever be able to compete in the slow jamz market again?

Come see me in 30 years and we'll talk about where these "artists" stand.

mirrorbestfriend said:

"eh eh eh", is he Rihanna's brother?
That song and video are very formula. Looks and sounds like everything else out there.

Genesia said:

AMEN!

Genesia said:

hopefully not irrelevant like Prince to anyone under 30

mirrorbestfriend said:

Go back to bed.

skywalker said:

You took the words right out of my mouth!

uptown26 said:

and future babay mama aint run of the mill?

mirrorbestfriend said:

In a sense, anyone who records an album is in competition with the rest of the industry, so the question is relevant.

There is little doubt that other artists are making decent "slow jamz," but there is a lot of doubt that Prince hasn't made a good one since "Scandalous." Many would argue for tracks like "Insatiable," "Dark," " Can't Make U Love Me," "Shh" and " Hate U (especially Eric Leeds' Remix).

And, when I was 30, I had long since discovered the slow jams of Marvin Gaye, The Isley Brothers, Isaac Hayes, Rufus feat. Chaka Khan, Teddy Pendergrass, Earth, Wind and Fire, and yes, John Coltrane and Miles Davis. Don't underestimate the young folk. If they love music, they'll discover good music.

And This so-called J. may have a point about today's R&B, but I have to wonder whether he's listening to anything other than what's on the radio. I doubt this kid has ever heard Donnie, Van Hunt, Martin Luther, or any of the other more creative voices in contemporary black music.
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mirrorbestfriend said:

Call it a hunch -- but I suspect they'll be irrelevant, period.

mirrorbestfriend said:

I think the only one Prince would be in competition with is himself,especially when you have 30 plus years of a fantastic music catalogue. You can't really take younger artists today and put them up as competition against an artist like Prince who could still fill arenas today and is an icon. Especially if that younger artist is just starting out. Question is, could these younger artists maintain a career that could span over 30 years like Prince?

These other artists that are just out of their diapers, off the baby bottle, and just starting out, would have a lot to catch up with if other people want to compare them to Prince. Quite frankly they need to stop crowning themselves "Kings of R&B" beforehand, especially when they have never been a "Prince" and have a vast catalogue like all the other well-known artists, that have made major contributions to R&B over the years and their music is still remembered generations later....enough said.
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bsk3601 said:

It's sad isn't it?!

As slow as their music is, they aren't doing any "running". "Walking at an elderly person's pace" is more like it for the youngsters.



Fight back who? These aren't talented folks like Rick James or Michael Jackson from back in the day. These are dead asses that never get past midtempo. They aren't even worth Prince's time.



OK, she's 23, so she's not Jennifer Holiday that I was thinking of when I opened this thread. Her young age would explain why she makes the stupid comments that she makes such as "Rhythm and Blues is lacking storytellers right now". Look at the title of the genre rhythm and blues, the first word is "rhythm". What today's music lacks is rhythm. If people want a damn story, then they need to turn on the TV and watch "As The World Turns".




And this is her stupidest remark yet. R&B hasn't been danceable since the very early 90s. It's all too damn slow to dance to. But of course, she's only 23 so by the time she was old enough to get into music, it was already bullshit.

These little brats need to go find them a slinky to play with and let the real musicians pick up the instruments, speed up the tempo, and get people to shaking asses again.

J Holliday doesn't write or produce anything himself, so where was there supposed to be some kinda comparison between the two?

Before I even give my answer, let me start out by saying that there are a few people under 30 that do have good taste and had the good sense to look for something other than the bullshit music that has been shoved down their throats for years. To those young people, I applaud.

However, for the majority of today's listeners under 30, they have absolutely no taste whatsoever and I don't want Prince appealing to them. I'd like to put my foot up Prince's ass every time I hear something that he made that sells out to their bullshit music. Prince has a large fanbase of his own that will buy every single album of his and keep him comfortable. Whether or not the kids under 30 like him or not, I personally could give less than a damn.

Oh, it's a "he"? Hell, I thought it was a "she". Hell, it just goes to show that not only do I not like boring music, I don't even know who the boring artists are. I'm very proud of myself.

vainandy said:

J.Holiday is a dude!

And personally I don't really care for this song too much, not really my style!

When I first opened this thread, I was expecting it to be about Jennifer Holiday, as in "And I Am Telling You, I'm not going". Until I read his/her age, which was 23. Jennifer Holiday would be in her 40s by now.

vainandy said:

Hey, I'm proud of never hearing of this person. That lets me know that staying away from stations that play current R&B is doing me some good. I wish I could say that I've never heard of folks like 50 Cent but the TV is messing things up.

vainandy said:

Put them into perspective though....when Prince was 23 he was thunder, I don't think he's doing to bad for himself pre-middle aged. But until TV is dead and in a grave and music reclaims its throne, no one is ever gonna' love it to the fullest.


Though i'm glad people are voicing their opinions on the state of music. i hope r & b gets revived.

mirrorbestfriend said:

Who say hes Irrelevent, you and all the so called music (if thats what you call it) listeners of Radio. Me personally wouldnt want the under 30's of today listening to prince cause that to me means prince must be doing something wrong anyway i know plenty of people under 30 who likes prince and they dont listen to crap artist whats on the Radio these Days.

mirrorbestfriend said:

I don't like that kid J Holiday at all, but still why did u come on here and thrown him at a hungry pack of wolves? Its not really fair to him. He didn't make it a competition between he and P u did. U know what the reaction will be before u even start a thread like this so why even start it. U know ur on a Prince board and its unfair to throw some other artist under the bus for no reason. I know u've seen even the treatment that artists like D'Angelo get on this board when P is brought up and P loves D! Just let the boy do his thing and get his shine as long as he doesn't call P out there's no need to bring him up here to have him needlessly criticized...

adorable2 said:

:churchhattilt&fanwave: i know that's right!

adorable2 said:

There's nothing wrong with him. He's cute enough, I guess...and I kinda like Be With Me even though it's produced like every other song out there. What he sounds like live...that will be the test. But I agree, if you're going to compare him, go to an Usher site and do it.

Lemme at him! I'll rip his little ass to shreds!




Actually, if he had made a comparison to Rick James, I would have both good and bad things to say about both the Rick James and Prince side of the discussion because both artists are worthy of being compared to. Compare Prince to one of these little newcomer acts or any act that came out in the 1990s or today, and I'm going to rip them to shreds and take pleasure in doing it.

vainandy said:

I already know!