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PrintableUbiquity said: berniejobs said: Wouldn't it be cool to hear from a musician who was in James Brown's band during that performance? Or maybe someone that was in the audience? Of course, you'd have to believe they were telling the truth that they were actually there.
My husband has worked with the James Brown Band for many years and he is still close friends with some of the musicians who were actually there that night. Being a Prince fan myself, of course I asked the guys about what happened. The truth of the story is that Prince did in fact get high that night - with some of James Brown's band members. I could even give you the names of the musicians, but since we are talking cocaine here, I will respect their privacy, appreciating that they have shared their story with me. I should add that various musicians who were there have confirmed the story, even though some of them haven't even seen each other in many years. I was told that it was no big deal as everyone did coke back then. I was also told that Michael Jackson saw Prince getting high backstage, and many of the musicians believe that he asked James Brown to invite Prince on stage because he knew that Prince would embarrass himself. That part of the story is pure specualtion of course. But it's at least speculation by people who've been there. The only absolute truth is that Prince was in fact high that night, which might explain his rather sad performance. cocaine does not make you act a fool like that. not that i've ever done cocaine before.  Space for sale... | |
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sosgemini said: Ubiquity said: My husband has worked with the James Brown Band for many years and he is still close friends with some of the musicians who were actually there that night. Being a Prince fan myself, of course I asked the guys about what happened. The truth of the story is that Prince did in fact get high that night - with some of James Brown's band members. I could even give you the names of the musicians, but since we are talking cocaine here, I will respect their privacy, appreciating that they have shared their story with me. I should add that various musicians who were there have confirmed the story, even though some of them haven't even seen each other in many years. I was told that it was no big deal as everyone did coke back then. I was also told that Michael Jackson saw Prince getting high backstage, and many of the musicians believe that he asked James Brown to invite Prince on stage because he knew that Prince would embarrass himself. That part of the story is pure specualtion of course. But it's at least speculation by people who've been there. The only absolute truth is that Prince was in fact high that night, which might explain his rather sad performance. cocaine does not make you act a fool like that. not that i've ever done cocaine before. Well, then you wouldn't know, would you?  On any account, that was the choice of drugs that night ... | |
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Ubiquity said: sosgemini said: cocaine does not make you act a fool like that. not that i've ever done cocaine before. Well, then you wouldn't know, would you? On any account, that was the choice of drugs that night ...It could have been cocaine (from what I've heard about it) I danced with a gal at a disco once and fell down twice in the space of 5 minutes. In this small conservative town, some peaple are still talking about it, even though it was about a year ago. Nobody asked me if I had a good time, on that night. Now I wonder did Prince had a good time on his infamous night. And if MJ masterminded the whole thing it shows quite clearly that at least he's got a sense of humour. small circles, big wheels!
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Rightly said: [quote:71cc35fb47]Ubiquity said: [quote:71cc35fb47]Well, then you wouldn't know, would you? On any account, that was the choice of drugs that night ...[/quote:71cc35fb47]
It could have been cocaine (from what I've heard about it) I danced with a gal at a disco once and fell down twice in the space of 5 minutes. In this small conservative town, some peaple are still talking about it, even though it was about a year ago. Nobody asked me if I had a good time, on that night. Now I wonder did Prince had a good time on his infamous night. And if MJ masterminded the whole thing it shows quite clearly that at least he's got a sense of humour.[/quote:71cc35fb47] cocaine is not an intense (long lasting) euphoric drug...if folks act all crazy like that it just means they are gullible. 
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Ubiquity said: berniejobs said: Wouldn't it be cool to hear from a musician who was in James Brown's band during that performance? Or maybe someone that was in the audience? Of course, you'd have to believe they were telling the truth that they were actually there.
My husband has worked with the James Brown Band for many years and he is still close friends with some of the musicians who were actually there that night. Being a Prince fan myself, of course I asked the guys about what happened. The truth of the story is that Prince did in fact get high that night - with some of James Brown's band members. I could even give you the names of the musicians, but since we are talking cocaine here, I will respect their privacy, appreciating that they have shared their story with me. I should add that various musicians who were there have confirmed the story, even though some of them haven't even seen each other in many years. I was told that it was no big deal as everyone did coke back then. I was also told that Michael Jackson saw Prince getting high backstage, and many of the musicians believe that he asked James Brown to invite Prince on stage because he knew that Prince would embarrass himself. That part of the story is pure specualtion of course. But it's at least speculation by people who've been there. The only absolute truth is that Prince was in fact high that night, which might explain his rather sad performance. i dont believe any of that.. that's bullshit.. Prince did not like the guitar that was given to him and he tried improvising ... and left the stage... period.. now if u're talking Rick James and his musicians.. maybe that's what you meant.. but Prince is not a coke head.. and i HAVE done cocaine.. so i can speak from there.. | |
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prince does move in mysterious ways.
When he fell ..... I mean went off stage it only looked like a accident to the ignorant. Just like the time I fell twice in the space of 5 minutes. Why these small town grannies will be eating humble pie when they find out that both me and prince don't make mistakes, we just move in mysterious ways. Here's to future dance steps done a year ago!  small circles, big wheels!
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I bet these are the exact things P does not want fans speculating on. High or not, it was just an off night for a young musician trying to be cool. Whatever, move on. | |
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electrorock said: not drunk, high or anything.
my theory is that prince was in the "darling nikki" mood and he tried to do that kinda dance and final scream but few people got it. that was it...darling nikki rare form that night. he was nervous like he had too much pixy-stix before he went there.and he was hot sweating,his weave was frizzy...not a good nite! | |
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Flowerz said: Ubiquity said: My husband has worked with the James Brown Band for many years and he is still close friends with some of the musicians who were actually there that night. Being a Prince fan myself, of course I asked the guys about what happened. The truth of the story is that Prince did in fact get high that night - with some of James Brown's band members. I could even give you the names of the musicians, but since we are talking cocaine here, I will respect their privacy, appreciating that they have shared their story with me. I should add that various musicians who were there have confirmed the story, even though some of them haven't even seen each other in many years. I was told that it was no big deal as everyone did coke back then. I was also told that Michael Jackson saw Prince getting high backstage, and many of the musicians believe that he asked James Brown to invite Prince on stage because he knew that Prince would embarrass himself. That part of the story is pure specualtion of course. But it's at least speculation by people who've been there. The only absolute truth is that Prince was in fact high that night, which might explain his rather sad performance. i dont believe any of that.. that's bullshit.. Prince did not like the guitar that was given to him and he tried improvising ... and left the stage... period.. now if u're talking Rick James and his musicians.. maybe that's what you meant.. but Prince is not a coke head.. and i HAVE done cocaine.. so i can speak from there.. You don't have to believe it. But it's what the people said who were there with him that night. Could it be that they made the story up? Anything is possible. But most of these people are like family to me and they have no reason to lie to us. It's also quite significant that everybody who was there that night confirms this story, even though some of the fellas don't even speak to each other anymore. My conclusion: Unless Prince is the victim of a major conspiracy among the James Brown Band (which I consider highly unlikely and rather pointless, since they never went public with it), the story is true and he was high that night.
I'd rather take it from people who were with him and not from you, who wasn't and who is just guessing. No offense. [Edited 8/21/07 8:32am] | |
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Christopher said: electrorock said: not drunk, high or anything.
my theory is that prince was in the "darling nikki" mood and he tried to do that kinda dance and final scream but few people got it. that was it...darling nikki rare form that night. he was nervous like he had too much pixy-stix before he went there.and he was hot sweating,his weave was frizzy...not a good nite!  
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sosgemini said: Ubiquity said: My husband has worked with the James Brown Band for many years and he is still close friends with some of the musicians who were actually there that night. Being a Prince fan myself, of course I asked the guys about what happened. The truth of the story is that Prince did in fact get high that night - with some of James Brown's band members. I could even give you the names of the musicians, but since we are talking cocaine here, I will respect their privacy, appreciating that they have shared their story with me. I should add that various musicians who were there have confirmed the story, even though some of them haven't even seen each other in many years. I was told that it was no big deal as everyone did coke back then. I was also told that Michael Jackson saw Prince getting high backstage, and many of the musicians believe that he asked James Brown to invite Prince on stage because he knew that Prince would embarrass himself. That part of the story is pure specualtion of course. But it's at least speculation by people who've been there. The only absolute truth is that Prince was in fact high that night, which might explain his rather sad performance. cocaine does not make you act a fool like that. not that i've ever done cocaine before. you do not know what a drug or achohol will do to someone - it cannot be predicted. Regardless if he was high or not, Prince was not "acting". He was a little altered. | |
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Ubiquity said: berniejobs said: Wouldn't it be cool to hear from a musician who was in James Brown's band during that performance? Or maybe someone that was in the audience? Of course, you'd have to believe they were telling the truth that they were actually there.
My husband has worked with the James Brown Band for many years and he is still close friends with some of the musicians who were actually there that night. Being a Prince fan myself, of course I asked the guys about what happened. The truth of the story is that Prince did in fact get high that night - with some of James Brown's band members. I could even give you the names of the musicians, but since we are talking cocaine here, I will respect their privacy, appreciating that they have shared their story with me. I should add that various musicians who were there have confirmed the story, even though some of them haven't even seen each other in many years. I was told that it was no big deal as everyone did coke back then. I was also told that Michael Jackson saw Prince getting high backstage, and many of the musicians believe that he asked James Brown to invite Prince on stage because he knew that Prince would embarrass himself. That part of the story is pure specualtion of course. But it's at least speculation by people who've been there. The only absolute truth is that Prince was in fact high that night, which might explain his rather sad performance. Thank you for your insight - it is funny how so many people cannot even conceive Prince getting high. He's not Jesus. | |
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oh i am not saying prince has never taken drugs or that he wasn't on drugs that night...i just think its a stretch to use drugs as justification for his behavior. now if he were drunk (and on coke) then yeah i can see it...but i would chalk that up to him being a drunk mess cause coke does not make folks act a fool all by itself. Space for sale... | |
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No, not coke alone, but a headful of hyped bullshit and coke, will do nicely! small circles, big wheels!
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sosgemini said: oh i am not saying prince has never taken drugs or that he wasn't on drugs that night...i just think its a stretch to use drugs as justification for his behavior. now if he were drunk (and on coke) then yeah i can see it...but i would chalk that up to him being a drunk mess cause coke does not make folks act a fool all by itself.
I am not trying to justify his behaviour. I am just a lurker and this thread caught my interest because I happen to know the story behind this performance and I thought that my contribution to this thread might answer some questions. Some still may not believe this story and draw their own conclusions ("Prince did not like the guitar that was given to him" ), acting like they were with Prince that night. That's cool with me, but I know what I was told and by whom, so I have no doubts that this is what happened. If y'all wanna believe something else, that's fine with me. 
Oh, and I have no idea if alcolhol was involved as well. I never asked that question, and nobody ever brought it up. Maybe it was the case, maybe not. But from what I know is that most musicians of the James Brown Band rarely messed around with alcohol before gigs. But maybe Prince did, who knows? Does it really matter? [Edited 8/21/07 10:34am] | |
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Ive been reading this forum for a long time but still cant understand something?
Why is it alot of people on here feel so bitter towards Michael Jackson? It sounds like its on the verge of jealously or something, I dont get it? How is Jackson to blame for Prince making a fool of himself on stage? Anything to have a pop at Mike it seems to me. Michael Jackson and Prince are two of, if not the two finest musical icons and performers ever, why cant it just be left at that? Who cares about plastic surgery, mistakes made in the past and the vile claims that were made against MJ, they are both brilliant artists. And as for you morons who call Jackson a child molester, I have nothing to say to you as you are plainly not intelligent enough to understand. I would give anything to have EVER seen MJ,Prince and James Brown on stage together, Id give anything to still see MJ and Prince on stage together. Its about time the die hard Prince and MJ fans learned to respect each others idol. Rant over. | |
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sosgemini said: oh i am not saying prince has never taken drugs or that he wasn't on drugs that night...i just think its a stretch to use drugs as justification for his behavior. now if he were drunk (and on coke) then yeah i can see it...but i would chalk that up to him being a drunk mess cause coke does not make folks act a fool all by itself.
But he didn't act like a fool - he tried to perform - and while not at perfect level, Prince still was able to atleast play some guitar and play around with the michrophone. Nevertheless da brother was TIPSY. | |
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Let's admit it kids:
----- MICHAEL JACKSON UPSTAGED PRINCE INTO THE MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK!! ----- That's why it just doesn't sit right! Wave your wild signs for MJ!  small circles, big wheels!
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Zink said: Ive been reading this forum for a long time but still cant understand something?
Why is it alot of people on here feel so bitter towards Michael Jackson? It sounds like its on the verge of jealously or something, I dont get it? How is Jackson to blame for Prince making a fool of himself on stage? Anything to have a pop at Mike it seems to me. (no matter what you do people will always take sides on an issue - look at my previous post in which I verbally fought with someone over nothing that had to do with the issue at hand) Michael Jackson and Prince are two of, if not the two finest musical icons and performers ever, why cant it just be left at that? Who cares about plastic surgery, mistakes made in the past and the vile claims that were made against MJ, they are both brilliant artists. (I would agree the problem here is musicianship, artistry, creativity and performance - The majority of people will say Michael is more talented but it is Prince that has created so much music and can play several instruments - [i have seen the man play drums live] that debate will go on to the end of time) And as for you morons who call Jackson a child molester, I have nothing to say to you as you are plainly not intelligent enough to understand, (this is a tough issue - from all the things I have studied in Psychology regarding pedophiles well he (MJ) does fit the profile. same sex, child like interaction. If he just liked children then he would also have little girls in that circle. The fact that he had an entire backyard devoted to a playground for kids...I dont know. I mean when you have a great deal of money you spend it on your fantasies and vices. Hugh Hefner has the Grotto. ) I would give anything to have EVER seen MJ,Prince and James Brown on stage together, Id give anything to still see MJ and Prince on stage together. (same here - but it will never happen) Its about time the die hard Prince and MJ fans learned to respect each others idol. (this is true for all ideas - if someone has a different view period then it should be respected) Rant over. | |
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Zink said: Ive been reading this forum for a long time but still cant understand something?
Why is it alot of people on here feel so bitter towards Michael Jackson? It sounds like its on the verge of jealously or something, I dont get it? How is Jackson to blame for Prince making a fool of himself on stage? Anything to have a pop at Mike it seems to me. Michael Jackson and Prince are two of, if not the two finest musical icons and performers ever, why cant it just be left at that? Who cares about plastic surgery, mistakes made in the past and the vile claims that were made against MJ, they are both brilliant artists. And as for you morons who call Jackson a child molester, I have nothing to say to you as you are plainly not intelligent enough to understand. I would give anything to have EVER seen MJ,Prince and James Brown on stage together, Id give anything to still see MJ and Prince on stage together. Its about time the die hard Prince and MJ fans learned to respect each others idol. Rant over. Er,,,,,this is Prince.org most fans on here are Prince fans and not MJ fans... although there are a few MJ/Prince fans like myself.,,, This incident is so old... how many times in life have you guys made a fool of yourself in public when you were young. Just because it wasn't recorded and you were not famous you got away with it. Give Prince a break... he was young... he is very talented now, we all see that, so why hash this thing out over and over. :rolleyes: | |
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pplrain said: Zink said: Ive been reading this forum for a long time but still cant understand something?
Why is it alot of people on here feel so bitter towards Michael Jackson? It sounds like its on the verge of jealously or something, I dont get it? How is Jackson to blame for Prince making a fool of himself on stage? Anything to have a pop at Mike it seems to me. Michael Jackson and Prince are two of, if not the two finest musical icons and performers ever, why cant it just be left at that? Who cares about plastic surgery, mistakes made in the past and the vile claims that were made against MJ, they are both brilliant artists. And as for you morons who call Jackson a child molester, I have nothing to say to you as you are plainly not intelligent enough to understand. I would give anything to have EVER seen MJ,Prince and James Brown on stage together, Id give anything to still see MJ and Prince on stage together. Its about time the die hard Prince and MJ fans learned to respect each others idol. Rant over. Er,,,,,this is Prince.org most fans on here are Prince fans and not MJ fans... although there are a few MJ/Prince fans like myself.,,, This incident is so old... how many times in life have you guys made a fool of yourself in public when you were young. Just because it wasn't recorded and you were not famous you got away with it. Give Prince a break... he was young... he is very talented now, we all see that, so why hash this thing out over and over. :rolleyes: because he is famous and new folks discover the video every other day. to them its not a rehash. Space for sale... | |
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whendovescry2000 said: sosgemini said: oh i am not saying prince has never taken drugs or that he wasn't on drugs that night...i just think its a stretch to use drugs as justification for his behavior. now if he were drunk (and on coke) then yeah i can see it...but i would chalk that up to him being a drunk mess cause coke does not make folks act a fool all by itself.
But he didn't act like a fool - he tried to perform - and while not at perfect level, Prince still was able to atleast play some guitar and play around with the michrophone. Nevertheless da brother was TIPSY. Ya'll r cracking me the hell up!surviving on the thought of loving you, it's just like the water
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I didn't see anything wrong with that performace he did. It wasn't all that serious as folks made it out to be. People are good at blowin' things up. When Prince left the stage he not knowingly grabed that statue thing, holdin'it for Chick(His body guard) to help him down. Him not knowin' it would fall over. Anybody could of made that mistake. Prince is a normal person, and he makes mistakes like all of us. So I don't think it is cool for some of ya'll to say Prince was "High" or "Tipsy" or what the fuck ever.. Some people think I'm kinda cute
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I still think, tipsy or not
----- MICHAEL JACKSON UPSTAGED PRINCE INTO THE MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK!! ----- The michael Jackson performance was timeless! small circles, big wheels!
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Rinluv said: I didn't see anything wrong with that performace he did. It wasn't all that serious as folks made it out to be. People are good at blowin' things up. When Prince left the stage he not knowingly grabed that statue thing, holdin'it for Chick(His body guard) to help him down. Him not knowin' it would fall over. Anybody could of made that mistake. Prince is a normal person, and he makes mistakes like all of us. So I don't think it is cool for some of ya'll to say Prince was "High" or "Tipsy" or what the fuck ever..
Yes - it is not uncommon to find an actual working street light/lamp on stage. And if he wasn't "TIPSY" why would he have leaned on it anyway? The arrogant sober Prince would have jumped into Big Chick's arms as he has done so many times in the past. | |
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Ubiquity said: berniejobs said: Wouldn't it be cool to hear from a musician who was in James Brown's band during that performance? Or maybe someone that was in the audience? Of course, you'd have to believe they were telling the truth that they were actually there.
My husband has worked with the James Brown Band for many years and he is still close friends with some of the musicians who were actually there that night. Being a Prince fan myself, of course I asked the guys about what happened. The truth of the story is that Prince did in fact get high that night - with some of James Brown's band members. I could even give you the names of the musicians, but since we are talking cocaine here, I will respect their privacy, appreciating that they have shared their story with me. I should add that various musicians who were there have confirmed the story, even though some of them haven't even seen each other in many years. I was told that it was no big deal as everyone did coke back then. I was also told that Michael Jackson saw Prince getting high backstage, and many of the musicians believe that he asked James Brown to invite Prince on stage because he knew that Prince would embarrass himself. That part of the story is pure specualtion of course. But it's at least speculation by people who've been there. The only absolute truth is that Prince was in fact high that night, which might explain his rather sad performance.  | |
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the lamp thing was funny but who in the world was gonna think it wouldnt be stucked on the floor? come on, that was cheap! | |
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well..i thought Prince performance was actually really great..
the way he was lifted to the stage..and left the fact he just screamed ...and played some guitar was funny and special.. and yes i can understand it wasnt a regular kind of performance..but it had a special sense over it.. i just cant understand what people are talking about when they say he messed up.. | |
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