GiGi319 said:

wierd

GiGi319 said:

Y'know I heard that Prince Phillip actually financed the concert and was pirvy to MJ's evil scheme almost 6 months in advance.
Makes U think doesn't it?

His guitar playing was actually quite good, alot better than I remember. The part where he gets on the mic is just awful tho, he stands there for ages like he doesn't know what the fuck he's doing then just lets out this demonic scream.

dseann said:

I'm laughing cuz that's some silly shit! I look at that clip all of the time, and if you look at prince clips of his performances through out the years you will see that Prince runs his fingers under his nose all the time showing a sign that he is funky. At least that's my take on it!

some of you over think things too much it's funny to read that some of you actually think MJ planned this thing ahead of time,wanted to embarrass prince and blah blah

FunkJam said:

Agreed. Also, the junkie strip routine defintiely breaks the mood right along with the pole being knocked down.

My theory: P didn't want to go to stage, he was surely irritated because MJ asked James to bring him with them, so he performed angry and tense...
[Edited 8/17/07 16:02pm]

FunkJam said:

His guitar playing is shit. The whole thing is fucking awful.

I remember hearing about this a few days after the show. It was talked about on a few black radio stations and it was in the newspapers. I was always left with the impression that P fell while trying to lean against a pole that wasn't mounted down to the floor. To this day, I have NEVER seen this footage. Can someone post a link up here so I can see this thing.

blackguitaristz said:

Voila http://www.youtube.com/wa...BxLYXmXvw

blackguitaristz said:

Wow BG I can't believe you've never seen it. I'm looking forward to hearing your thoughts on it.

mimi07 said:

so why did MJ leave ths stage?

my lord, are some of you seriously trying to put ownership on prince's screw up with mj?

please.

was prince high? i dont think so...did he look like a major dork on stage? yes....did someone clown his arse by throwing his glove back at him? hell yeah!!

overall though, it wasn't that big of a screwup...the entire situation is completely overblown by those who want to tear down prince and by the crazy arse famatics who want to put blame on everyone but the grown man himself.

none of us can proof he was drunk high or sober, so all are just different based on what we think it happended

I dunno,
but I myself may be high right now.

That's why this is such a shitty post..

emilio319 said:

Yeah,BG I'd like to know what you think of it.I'm surprised that you've never seen it before!

electrorock said:

because it wasn't his damn show? he like the audience i assume was there to enjoy the show but JB called him out and i guess he felt since he came up there it would be a good idea for prince to come up also

obviously i don't know exactly what went on that night but i don't think there were any bad intentions invoved.
[Edited 8/18/07 20:52pm]

He wasn't high. It was just a very young Prince, hoping to look cool. But failing. A rare thing to see with him.

Prince as we all know is a control freak and in this instance he had NO control, in fact that night probably mad him into even more of a control freak!

Prince has publicly made a fool of numerous people including Elton John, BrownMark,Sting and a Photographer Lady, so I don't feel sorry for him at all.

Elton John Story - Elton said "Hi, I love your music" at a recording studio and Prince looked at him and just walked away! Funny as hell... but still rude!

Sting - Onstage at Wembley Arena Sting played bass on Miss You with Ronnie Wood and Prince kept cueing the band confusing the hell outta poor Sting who had to stop playing!

BrownMark - Cussed him out and drop kicked him live on stage on the Purple Rain Tour and generally gave the guy a hard time. Now the above two rock stars have also been egomaniacs themselves so karma dealt with them but BrownMark was just a young guy!

Photographer Lady - Prince does this photo shoot where he disappears into his dressing room, the female photographer goes in to see if he's OK after he's been gone a while. He completely ignores her and she ends up crying in front of him wondering "what the hell is going on?". What a jerk!

He has hurt and abused many people with his power tripping so I'm glad he got a taste of his own medicine.

Sadly he didn't learn from it and continued to abuse his position

It saddens me that someone with that much talent and love from people has to act so disgraceful.

I'm sure his mother never raised him that way

mimi07 said:

oh ok, it wasnt his show, true.

so why did he insist on JB calling Prince if it wanst his show?? not consistent at all.

sorry but i still believe jackson called prince cuz he saw him backstage getting high so he knew he was gonna win it.

StereoSushi said:

StereoSushi said:

those were all before this one.

with sting prince was right. also sting stole miles davis bass player and he deserved what happened in that 86 ahow

electrorock said:

Nothing personal Electrorock but I think your theory is ridiculous.

electrorock said:

my lord...give me a break.

emilio319 said:

same in here with yours

The most amazing thing about this topic are the numerous interpretations people have in seeing the same video snippet. One person here said that Prince refused to shake MJ's hand when in actuality, the situation never occurred. Another person said he (Prince) was doing his best Darling Nikki impression but this was before Purple Rain (1984) we're looking at 1982 Maybe early 1983 (look at how Prince's upper body is, compared to maybe the When Doves Cry video. Look at Michael Jackson's nose and his clothes - that Sgt. Pepper jacket, he wore that during the 1982/1983 era). The fact that some people have attacked individual versus addressing the point at hand.


What's so odd is that so many people refuse to even enter the thought that Prince could be drunk or high. Like that is something so improbable. Like Mr. Rogers (host of the children's show that so many people though was gay but he was married and had children) cussing. Prince is human, mortal, Terran. He has the same temptations as all of us, as illustrated by his lyrics. Watch the video again without know that's Prince. I mean truly view it objectively and then decide.

whendovescry2000 said:

i said he was in the darlin nikki mood and that scream and attitude it pretty similar. i also said it was in 83 before PR. so wheres the problem? i mean he was playing purpla rain before it was released and probably the night before or after was his preformance where he played it first with also "lets go crazy" and ended up with "DMSR"

if prince is human, mortal, Terran (sic) why is it that improbable to be drunk or high?

electrorock said:

I was not critizing you and your view - my response was a generalization of the overall status of this topic. To be realistic he also has this same look during computer blue and sceams a bit there too. Most of the songs for Purple Rain had been performed live before the actual release. I would die 4 u, Baby, Im a star, Darling Nikki and Purple Rain and Computer blue. From what I recall but the reality of this is I was making a general statement and not directing or questioning your posting. you also state (as a paraphrase of my post) why is it improbable to be drunk - well that was my intial statement.

berniejobs said:

My husband has worked with the James Brown Band for many years and he is still close friends with some of the musicians who were actually there that night. Being a Prince fan myself, of course I asked the guys about what happened. The truth of the story is that Prince did in fact get high that night - with some of James Brown's band members. I could even give you the names of the musicians, but since we are talking cocaine here, I will respect their privacy, appreciating that they have shared their story with me. I should add that various musicians who were there have confirmed the story, even though some of them haven't even seen each other in many years.
I was told that it was no big deal as everyone did coke back then. I was also told that Michael Jackson saw Prince getting high backstage, and many of the musicians believe that he asked James Brown to invite Prince on stage because he knew that Prince would embarrass himself. That part of the story is pure specualtion of course. But it's at least speculation by people who've been there. The only absolute truth is that Prince was in fact high that night, which might explain his rather sad performance.

i met a guy in here years ago and sent me a private message telling me same story.