And processed their emotions through artistic/creative endeavors - Would we have as many suicides, murders, mental and emotional illnesses or wars?

What do you think?

it certainly helps. i'm an artist and it definitely eases my frustrations whenever i work on something.

if only the whole world did the same...

I remember my dad told me as a kid,

"when your so mad you want to break something - make something instead..."


or something like that.

It's funny that now when I get angry, I get more productive than when I'm not.
[This message was edited Thu Sep 26 14:46:08 PDT 2002 by yamomma]

CandyEyce said:

I don't think so, because it's cathartic. Even if it's just consistent excersize it can be cathartic for certain people. It's all about how you channel your frustrations, because everybody has them. Everybody needs an outlet of some kind.

yamomma said:

Thank you for sharing that with us.
That's really good advice.
I may borrow that from time to time

Supernova said:

Excellent Supernova
That's true Supernova - [b]Exercise too is a great outlet[b].
Perhaps I should edit my Post...
or they can just see it on yours.

I would think that it's just good practice to let emotions and circumstances be catylists for productivity period.

Not to say that some things can't break you. They can.

Yes it would. Big time. But would they be as good at it like him so they can continue, is the real question...

We would have a lot of bad angry music & art.

CherrieMoonKisses said:

I'm not sure being as good at it as Prince is at what he does is prerequisite for sticking with it. As long as said person enjoys it they get something out of it. Charles Barkley is a weak golfer, and from what I hear has always been. But even during his retirement, and during the off season of his basketball career he continued to play. It's just an example. But if someone enjoys competing for years knowing they're not great at what they're competing at (non-professionally) it may help that person regardless of his/her skill level. But I have to make a disclaimer saying that I have no idea if it's a need for Barkley and some others who don't do it professionally.

There are kids and adults alike playing music in garages all over the world that aren't great at it (at least not yet), and they still enjoy what they do, while most stay out of trouble and haven't attempted suicide.

Although an outlet isn't always a 100% prevention of something potentially detrimental, it certainly helps in a lot of cases.

But there is a small percentage of very successful people who have attempted and/or committed suicide. In the entertainment industry, and outside of it in the business and art world.

I think sometimes kids in school who have organized after school activities are more likely to stay out of trouble than those who don't. Especially nowadays.

But me personally, I was a latch-key kid during part of my school years. It's not for everybody, but I wouldn't have traded that for anything. Coming home to an empty house was a beatiful thing for me.

Playing my piano uninterrupted.
Blasting the stereo without being yelled at to turn it down.
Watching Popeye at 3:00 everyday.
Hanging out at my neighbor's house when I wanted to.

It was a beautiful thing for me.

Everyone needs a series of outlets in which to release emotion.

Sex for example is a physical activity that you partake in, to express to someone, how much you love them. (idealy (that's not always the case)

Anger/Frustration can be exerted through activities like the following:

Screaming (it's a psychological fact)

Laughter (also a psych fact)

Counting backwards from ten (old, yet works for some)

Sports (in an attempt to harness and mold aggression, organized sports can be very helpful)

The Bag:Boxing (Many exercises on a boxers training schedule, surely relieve tension)

As far as being hurt, sad, or heart broken:

Crying (may sound simple and redundant, but matters only worsen, when you hold back tears. Statistically, men are very prevelant in holding tears back. When you fight your brain/body's physiological reactions to stimuli, you cause even more tension 'hypertension' to be exact. Who wants High-Blood Pressure...? Just cry already!)

Sad Songs (again this may seem redundant, but listening to your fav sob song, is excellent therapy. You relate to the artist, and it gives you a feeling of "not being alone," or "not the only one who's been through this." It's been proven that sitting alone with your fav sob song playing, is just as productive as seeing a psychiatrist. Go figure.)

Just my

Blue

CandyEyce said:

no. we'd take it out on our underlings and fans. just like he does.
[This message was edited Thu Sep 26 16:13:37 PDT 2002 by AaronForever]

Yes is the answer to your question.

However it's really important for each individual to find their OWN thang
which makes it bearable to live with
themselves. This is may be more difficult
than anything because it may not be the same for each situation they have to deal with...
[This message was edited Fri Sep 27 0:44:01 PDT 2002 by origmnd]

CandyEyce said:

---I dont think creativity would help too much with wars, or homicides. i do know it DOES help with stress and emotional problems. i've gone through very stressful times in my life where my creativity helped me get through it. they dont teach basket weaving in mental hospitals etc. 4 nothing! it is a deversion away from ones thinking about unsettling things in their life. not that we should avoid reality and NEVER face our problems, but some people obsess on them and become anxious or very depressed, withdrawn etc. and creativity tends to help with this. it gets ur mind off of these problems and gives one something constructive to do, as well as b proud of (if ur good at it, like prince is at his gifts).

TheBluePrince said:

If you're not good to yourself, you'll be drowned out by your inner scream...

go on & let your scream out!

- TTD

CalhounSq said:

pyschology holds no 'facts' just opinions. im a psychologist. i agree with your opinion though. x

Supernova said:

Okay

Being an artist/fashion designer it is amazing the emotional release you can get from cutting up something when you're angry, or the drilling of the sewing machine when you're frustrated or illustrating a wild and crazy designs when you feel confused. All in the name of art. The problem comes when you want or need to be creative, but you're blocked. :grrr:

Come off it guys, Prince is no supreme being of pure light that can channel all of his pure emotional energy and transform it into his art No one is. Prince is just a man like the rest of us and no doubt he has his frustrations and his problems and other ways of venting them outside of his music.

Sometimes when you are really down you are in no shape whatsoever to create anything. It takes some distance, some time after the event in many cases. Well that's my take on it anyway.

I make videogames for a living, and I play music so I'm reasonably creative considering I'm a techy But when I need to "deal with my feelings" the last thing I wanna do is try to create something, because it will just turn out like shite

I suppose the difference is when your emotional state is tied to your ability to create. For example, in the past when I was in a really crap, uncreative job I very quickly became depressed, disinterested, dispondent, and desperate to find another job. My work is my art and vice versa (and they both come with their own frustrations) but I've never felt they were a "channel for my emotions" rather they are a channel for my vision, concepts, imagination and desire to make stuff - which isn't really the same thing. Maybe I'm too cynical or I have a different perspective from being a scientist / technologist - when I'm depressed I create shit stuff. The act of just making stuff in itself is great but I need to be in a good emotional state before that happens.

ian said:

I think you're looking at it too simplistically. It's not about trying to be creative when you're depressed. It's a constant thing that has to have continuity in your life long before you even remotely have the chance to become depressed (if you become depressed at all). This is a complex issue.

howcomeudontcallme said:

Yeah, you're right but. So I'll say it's been proven to work for most people, that are under alot of stress. Sometimes when you feel as if your world is collapsing on you. You SCREAM!

Blue

ian said:

Nicely said Ian.

CandyEyce said:

O my, yes! Maybe more. If you have a tender heart, it will ask you to defend it with all your might.

It's the tender hearted who are artists and it's the tender hearted who get jealous and paranoia. It's the tender hearted who start a war when their heart is hurt.
[This message was edited Mon Sep 30 17:25:14 PDT 2002 by LillianLaughs]