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Thread started 07/26/07 8:44pm

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Best Religious-Themed Prince Songs

I do a little freelance writing on the side. My next article is going to be on the top 10 religious-themed Prince songs. Which ones do my fellow orgers like?
Right now "The Cross" is my fav.
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Reply #1 posted 07/26/07 8:49pm

AvramsDad

Anna Stesia
Let's Go Crazy
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Reply #2 posted 07/26/07 9:42pm

rave777

Anna Stesia
The Holy River
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Reply #3 posted 07/26/07 9:59pm

brocklynn

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Everywhere
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Reply #4 posted 07/27/07 12:30am

Snap

rave777 said:

Anna Stesia
The Holy River


these 2 are great
they put Jesus in His proper place
as God
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Reply #5 posted 07/27/07 12:34am

Whitnail

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My name is Prince lol
If it were not for insanity, I would be sane.

"True to his status as the last enigma in music, Prince crashed into London this week in a ball of confusion" The Times 2014
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Reply #6 posted 07/27/07 1:51am

P2daP

The Word


headbang
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Reply #7 posted 07/27/07 3:57am

wlcm2thdwn

Holy river
The word
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Reply #8 posted 07/27/07 5:28am

GiGi319

The ladder

Still would stand all time

Elephants and Flowers

I would die for you

Let's go crazy
love the one who is Love!
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Reply #9 posted 07/27/07 6:00am

datdude

For The Tears in Your Eyes
The Cross
Still Would Stand All Time
God
Elephants & Flowers
Everywhere
Last December
Anna Stesia
Let's Go Crazy
Holy River
The Word
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Reply #10 posted 07/27/07 7:49am

HomeSquid

Snap said:

rave777 said:

Anna Stesia
The Holy River


these 2 are great
they put Jesus in His proper place
as God


Jesus is not "God" in the full sense. Jesus HAS a God (John 20:17, Rev. 3,12) so he is not the Almighty God. Though Jesus is a called a God Hebrew and Greek terms allow such usage without it being some kind of polytheism. YHWH is God, the Father and God of the Lord Jesus.
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Reply #11 posted 07/27/07 8:07am

mattmcbr

"Everlasting Now"
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Reply #12 posted 07/27/07 8:09am

TNorrisjr

"God is Alive"

Jesus is God. The Father, The Son, The Holy Spirit. The Trinity, 3 in 1.
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Reply #13 posted 07/27/07 8:13am

HamsterHuey

Lovesexy.
Sign O The Times
Positivity
Paisley Park
Purple Rain
4 The Tears In Your Eyes
God Is Alive
Crystal Ball
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Reply #14 posted 07/27/07 8:22am

AvramsDad

HomeSquid said:



Jesus is not "God" in the full sense. Jesus HAS a God (John 20:17, Rev. 3,12) so he is not the Almighty God. Though Jesus is a called a God Hebrew and Greek terms allow such usage without it being some kind of polytheism. YHWH is God, the Father and God of the Lord Jesus.


TNorrisjr:

Jesus is God. The Father, The Son, The Holy Spirit. The Trinity, 3 in 1.



rolleyes Here we go. lurking
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Reply #15 posted 07/27/07 8:33am

HamsterHuey

AvramsDad said:

HomeSquid said:



Jesus is not "God" in the full sense. Jesus HAS a God (John 20:17, Rev. 3,12) so he is not the Almighty God. Though Jesus is a called a God Hebrew and Greek terms allow such usage without it being some kind of polytheism. YHWH is God, the Father and God of the Lord Jesus.


TNorrisjr:

Jesus is God. The Father, The Son, The Holy Spirit. The Trinity, 3 in 1.



rolleyes Here we go. lurking


I mean, like, sooooo?

I love how they went from The One God to a Three In One Package. Pay One, Get Three! Convenient.

Now let's re-write the Holy Book so it suits us. Where shall we begin? Shall we write out all feminine influences on Jesus? Let's!
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Reply #16 posted 07/27/07 8:33am

HamsterHuey

I love COntroversy.

Holla Our Father!
[Edited 7/27/07 8:35am]
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Reply #17 posted 07/27/07 8:34am

Genesia

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The Love We Make
We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves.
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Reply #18 posted 07/27/07 9:11am

mrdespues

HomeSquid said:

Snap said:



these 2 are great
they put Jesus in His proper place
as God


Jesus is not "God" in the full sense. Jesus HAS a God (John 20:17, Rev. 3,12) so he is not the Almighty God. Though Jesus is a called a God Hebrew and Greek terms allow such usage without it being some kind of polytheism. YHWH is God, the Father and God of the Lord Jesus.



Oh dear.. take it to P & R.

Millions of Christians would disagree with you.
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Reply #19 posted 07/27/07 9:16am

HamsterHuey

Well, I like Prince's '88/'89 version of God;

God comes like a dog in heat.

Woohoo! WOOF! WOOF!
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Reply #20 posted 07/27/07 1:23pm

HomeSquid

HamsterHuey said:

AvramsDad said:




rolleyes Here we go. lurking


I mean, like, sooooo?

I love how they went from The One God to a Three In One Package. Pay One, Get Three! Convenient.

Now let's re-write the Holy Book so it suits us. Where shall we begin? Shall we write out all feminine influences on Jesus? Let's!


You my friend have nailed it. The whole "3 in 1" concept was forced upon Christianity long ago for political and philosophical reasons.

Personally, to me, whether one believes the reality that God is truly one or subscribes to a confusing "trinity" concept doesn't make one more Christian than the other. A think real Christians can disagree on many things as long as the main, necessary beliefs are shared.All Christians MUST believe Jesus Of Nazereth was the Son of God and faith in his sacrificial death is essential to life

Peace
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Reply #21 posted 07/27/07 1:42pm

HamsterHuey

HomeSquid said:

real Christians can disagree on many things as long as the main, necessary beliefs are shared.All Christians MUST believe Jesus Of Nazereth was the Son of God and faith in his sacrificial death is essential to life

Peace


I, we can agree I am a real atheist then.

I think Jesus was just one very cool carpenter that made it big in ways he'd never imagine himself.

His teachings were screwed up over the years by crazy people and people in it for their own gain. I can dig the echoes of his true life filtering through some of the books they wrote about him, though.
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Reply #22 posted 07/27/07 1:59pm

littlemissG

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The Word, I just love it.
No More Haters on the Internet.
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Reply #23 posted 07/27/07 2:01pm

AvramsDad

HamsterHuey said:

HomeSquid said:

real Christians can disagree on many things as long as the main, necessary beliefs are shared.All Christians MUST believe Jesus Of Nazereth was the Son of God and faith in his sacrificial death is essential to life

Peace


I, we can agree I am a real atheist then.

I think Jesus was just one very cool carpenter that made it big in ways he'd never imagine himself.

His teachings were screwed up over the years by crazy people and people in it for their own gain. I can dig the echoes of his true life filtering through some of the books they wrote about him, though.


perfect
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Reply #24 posted 07/27/07 2:03pm

HamsterHuey

AvramsDad said:

HamsterHuey said:

I can dig the echoes of his true life filtering through some of the books they wrote about him, though.


perfect


ANd I am not digging the re-writes much,know what I'm saying?
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Reply #25 posted 07/27/07 2:07pm

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I Would Die 4 You.

Nothing comes even close.
I'm not mad at you, I'm mad at the dirt.
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Reply #26 posted 07/27/07 2:39pm

HamsterHuey

rushing07 said:

I Would Die 4 You.

Nothing comes even close.


Ermmm.

Just cuz he claims to be the messiah? Ermmm, nope.

I mean, I can read religious themes in a lot of his songs (Forever In My Life/The Question Of U) but hell, (heh) I never considered I Would Die 4 U.
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Reply #27 posted 07/27/07 2:43pm

HamsterHuey

I lost my Songs 4 Sundays playlist...

It was created after reading Susan Rogers' words about Prince creating religiously themed songs on sundays especially.

I kinda liked that idea.
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Reply #28 posted 07/27/07 3:24pm

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HamsterHuey said:

rushing07 said:

I Would Die 4 You.

Nothing comes even close.


Ermmm.

Just cuz he claims to be the messiah? Ermmm, nope.

I mean, I can read religious themes in a lot of his songs (Forever In My Life/The Question Of U) but hell, (heh) I never considered I Would Die 4 U.


I think there are a lot of religious references in that song.
In the first verse he talks about being an entity that exceeds (or combines) the two elements that create mankind (the meaning of "I'm not a woman I'm not a man" is I would argue more than an allusion to Prince's androgenic scene persona). That entity is expected to be never understood by the addressee. Kinda like god.

The chorus is an obvious allusion to the sacrifice of Christ.

The second verse talks about the relationship between the narrator and the addressee. This closeness that they share is unlike other positive human-to-human relationships such as friendship or love (I'm not your lover , I'm not your friend, I am something that you'll never comprehend), And again the narrator is certain that the address will not be able to fully understand that connection. Rings a bell?

Verse 3 is again reference to Christ, who comes to save all.

This motif of Christ the redeemer, the comforter of mankind is continued in Verse 4:

You're just a sinner I am told
Be your fire when you're cold
Make u happy when you're sad
Make u good when u are bad

In Verse 5, the narrator makes it clear that he/she is not human.

I'm not a human
I am a dove
I'm your conscious
I am love
All I really need is 2 know that
U believe

Just like a Christan God, the narrator is the essence of love, a divinity that calls for faith and that resides both in religious symbols (dove=symbol of the Holy Ghost) and in humans themselves (consciousness).

Naturally, the song can be read in many different ways.

P.S. What I'm saying about Christianity might not be very accurate. I've been to a church twice in my life.
I'm not mad at you, I'm mad at the dirt.
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Reply #29 posted 07/27/07 3:35pm

HamsterHuey

rushing07 said:

I think there are a lot of religious references in [I Would Die 4 U].


Oh, alright. But just cuz you wrote such a long post and I can't be arsed to make a point he is actually blaspheming all through the song, claiming to be god, non-sexual and, hurray; a birdy.

I like him best as a dove. Cuz it rhymes with love.
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