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Thread started 08/04/07 2:56pm

jarvis76

Set-list Scrutiny....

Does any other artist have their live setlists put under such scrutiny as Prince does??

I realise he's not like other artists and has a much more extensive back catalogue than most, but to pick his shows apart while he's still on stage performing it.....I think it's a bit much.

At the moment, Mutiny is relaying the setlist back to us in the Concert section. I live that to be honest because I like to see what he's playing, but one comment annoyed me.

"The setlists are becoming predictable" someone said.

Now, 1st August was my first ever Prince show. I'm 30 and have been a fan for 20 years. I thought the set was amazing, even though he didn;t play some of my favourite songs. With such an extensive catalogue, he can't play them all, so I get over it.

I, personally, wasn't as keen on the 3rd August setlist, but I wasn't there, so can't really judge it.

I'm going on Tuesday 7th and all I hope is that he starts with Purple Rain again. Other than that, I'll take whatever he gives us and have a bloody great time.

Lets enjoy the time he's here in the UK rather that scrutinise every move he makes on stage. Lets be thankfull we're not watching Bon Jove or some such crap band for 21 nights.

Cheers confused
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Reply #1 posted 08/04/07 2:59pm

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jarvis76 said:

Does any other artist have their live setlists put under such scrutiny as Prince does??

I realise he's not like other artists and has a much more extensive back catalogue than most, but to pick his shows apart while he's still on stage performing it.....I think it's a bit much.

At the moment, Mutiny is relaying the setlist back to us in the Concert section. I live that to be honest because I like to see what he's playing, but one comment annoyed me.

"The setlists are becoming predictable" someone said.

Now, 1st August was my first ever Prince show. I'm 30 and have been a fan for 20 years. I thought the set was amazing, even though he didn;t play some of my favourite songs. With such an extensive catalogue, he can't play them all, so I get over it.

I, personally, wasn't as keen on the 3rd August setlist, but I wasn't there, so can't really judge it.

I'm going on Tuesday 7th and all I hope is that he starts with Purple Rain again. Other than that, I'll take whatever he gives us and have a bloody great time.

Lets enjoy the time he's here in the UK rather that scrutinise every move he makes on stage. Lets be thankfull we're not watching Bon Jove or some such crap band for 21 nights.

Cheers confused



okay would it better 2 say he's doing the same songs he did in vegas 6 months ago thus it's becoming predictable?
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #2 posted 08/04/07 3:05pm

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For me, he can do the same setlist as he did in London 1992 for all I care. I didn't see that show, I didn't get to Vegas.....so what difference does it make??

So I've read in a forum the order of songs he did. It doesn't mean that when I get to the show I will be bored rigid because he's doing the same set as last week.

Other artists do the same set for 20 years and don't get the same scrutiny.
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Reply #3 posted 08/04/07 3:05pm

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These setlists are totally different from Vegas...
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Reply #4 posted 08/04/07 3:23pm

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jarvis76 said:[quote]Does any other artist have their live setlists put under such scrutiny as Prince does??

The Grateful Dead.
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Reply #5 posted 08/04/07 5:05pm

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Reply #6 posted 08/04/07 5:13pm

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The thing is, most other acts don't make a point of saying they can play 150 songs, but never venture beyond the safe 35.
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Reply #7 posted 08/04/07 6:07pm

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the more he gives the more some people want.
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You say a lot of really good things here.

But remember, what Prince -- or any longterm extremely successful artist has to deal with -- is everybody.

He always has thousands of first timers. He also has thousands that have seen him before. And he has at least hundreds of people who have seen him almost endlessly.

How the hell do you please that kind of diversity?

You really can't, which would be at least part of the reason why you have after shows.

And I'm still one of those fools that hope that someday he'll tour an album again (including a huge dose of hits for the majority).

I know this takes a great deal of courage in a large setting, but I thought he was brave like that.

I normally couldn't care less, but for once I'm enamored beyond all reason with his latest; perhaps even more so than he is.

Prince has admitted that he doesn't listen to his own music, so sometimes the only way to hear something for what it is (outside of course of the album's creation) is to produce it and play it live; over and over, just like some of these hits that he'll never retire.

So some are frustrated that this so far seems more of a "3121" or "Purple Rain" tour than anything else. First timers wouldn't and shouldn't possibly care about such trivialities. They're finally seeing him and that's all that should really matter!! He can't help but play something new for these people.

Now Prince could make the tremendous argument that Londoners didn't hear "3121", and so he's just reciprocating.

But he hasn't hopped the pond previously with a lot of his albums.

And ignoring an album that you just gave away to nearly 3 million people, doesn't trick time, it just looks really weak. I don't think everyone has thrown it away with the paper yet, especially those who bother to buy tickets to a Prince concert.

Anyway, he may never tour another record again (no matter how awesome I might believe it is). That may be his new standard, at least until he tours smaller venues again.

And, who knows, if "3121" is any indication, maybe Prince won't will be promoting his new one for months or even years.

The guy is wonderfully talented, but I would think it quite hard to speak any view to him outside his own.

His own site is promising that 6 out of the 10 new tracks are being rehearsed, so things will likely change. And maybe they put that up there both as fact and because they knew most would be surprised to see him partially turning this into a "3121" tour.

And, then again, perhaps it's just me spitting in the wind.

I thought he produced brilliance with "Fury" on SNL (so apparently did thousands of others who couldn't care less about Prince), yet that isn't one of the tracks that he plays much live.

This man is either a Contrarian and/or he listens to almost no one.

I know that I'm crazy, but I'm not that crazy. wink

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[Edited 8/4/07 18:55pm]
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Reply #9 posted 08/04/07 7:07pm

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jarvis76 said:

Does any other artist have their live setlists put under such scrutiny as Prince does??

I realise he's not like other artists and has a much more extensive back catalogue than most, but to pick his shows apart while he's still on stage performing it.....I think it's a bit much.

At the moment, Mutiny is relaying the setlist back to us in the Concert section. I live that to be honest because I like to see what he's playing, but one comment annoyed me.

"The setlists are becoming predictable" someone said.

Now, 1st August was my first ever Prince show. I'm 30 and have been a fan for 20 years. I thought the set was amazing, even though he didn;t play some of my favourite songs. With such an extensive catalogue, he can't play them all, so I get over it.

I, personally, wasn't as keen on the 3rd August setlist, but I wasn't there, so can't really judge it.

I'm going on Tuesday 7th and all I hope is that he starts with Purple Rain again. Other than that, I'll take whatever he gives us and have a bloody great time.

Lets enjoy the time he's here in the UK rather that scrutinise every move he makes on stage. Lets be thankfull we're not watching Bon Jove or some such crap band for 21 nights.

Cheers confused


I couldn't agree more. I go to a Prince concert with the thought in mind that Prince is very simply serenading me and I've always left very well pleased.
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Reply #10 posted 08/05/07 10:15am

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Gohi said:

These setlists are totally different from Vegas...



perhaps not in the same order but every song in london thus far with the xception of planet earth, he's done in vegas in some fashion
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #11 posted 08/05/07 10:20am

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SO WHAT!!!!!to all the setlist complainers...he plays what he plays so stfu

bitch...bitch...bitch about P is all so many do on this org!!! mad

this post is not directed at the thread author wink
[Edited 8/5/07 10:22am]
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Brendan said:

You say a lot of really good things here.

But remember, what Prince -- or any longterm extremely successful artist has to deal with -- is everybody.

He always has thousands of first timers. He also has thousands that have seen him before. And he has at least hundreds of people who have seen him almost endlessly.

How the hell do you please that kind of diversity?

You really can't, which would be at least part of the reason why you have after shows.

And I'm still one of those fools that hope that someday he'll tour an album again (including a huge dose of hits for the majority).

I know this takes a great deal of courage in a large setting, but I thought he was brave like that.

I normally couldn't care less, but for once I'm enamored beyond all reason with his latest; perhaps even more so than he is.

Prince has admitted that he doesn't listen to his own music, so sometimes the only way to hear something for what it is (outside of course of the album's creation) is to produce it and play it live; over and over, just like some of these hits that he'll never retire.

So some are frustrated that this so far seems more of a "3121" or "Purple Rain" tour than anything else. First timers wouldn't and shouldn't possibly care about such trivialities. They're finally seeing him and that's all that should really matter!! He can't help but play something new for these people.

Now Prince could make the tremendous argument that Londoners didn't hear "3121", and so he's just reciprocating.

But he hasn't hopped the pond previously with a lot of his albums.

And ignoring an album that you just gave away to nearly 3 million people, doesn't trick time, it just looks really weak. I don't think everyone has thrown it away with the paper yet, especially those who bother to buy tickets to a Prince concert.

Anyway, he may never tour another record again (no matter how awesome I might believe it is). That may be his new standard, at least until he tours smaller venues again.

And, who knows, if "3121" is any indication, maybe Prince won't will be promoting his new one for months or even years.

The guy is wonderfully talented, but I would think it quite hard to speak any view to him outside his own.

His own site is promising that 6 out of the 10 new tracks are being rehearsed, so things will likely change. And maybe they put that up there both as fact and because they knew most would be surprised to see him partially turning this into a "3121" tour.

And, then again, perhaps it's just me spitting in the wind.

I thought he produced brilliance with "Fury" on SNL (so apparently did thousands of others who couldn't care less about Prince), yet that isn't one of the tracks that he plays much live.

This man is either a Contrarian and/or he listens to almost no one.

I know that I'm crazy, but I'm not that crazy. wink

== Screw my Editor's parents ==
[Edited 8/4/07 18:55pm]


very thoughtful repsonse thumbs up! perhaps going in2 smaller venues might b the best approach after this one, so he can tour a new album again ala ONA
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #13 posted 08/05/07 5:11pm

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SquirrelMeat said:

The thing is, most other acts don't make a point of saying they can play 150 songs, but never venture beyond the safe 35.

Nicely put...
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