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Thread started 07/17/07 8:00am

LittleSmedley

The problem with "Under The Cherry Moon" is Mary Sharon

We all know that UTCM is a funny, charming film, and didn't deserve the shit-kicking it got in the 80's.

But for me, the major thing that lets the film down is Kristin Scott-Thomas's performance as Mary Sharon. She went on to do better things, but I just cringe whenever she's onscreen in this. She generates zero chemistry with Prince (unlike Jerome), is unlikeable throughout, and about as sexy as being repeatedly slammed in the nuts with a prada handbag full of gravel.

At no point can you see why Christopher Tracey would fall in love with her, and this completely blows the central premise of the film.

Other than that I love it though thumbs up!
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Reply #1 posted 07/17/07 8:20am

RUHip2TheJive

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LittleSmedley said:

We all know that UTCM is a funny, charming film, and didn't deserve the shit-kicking it got in the 80's.

But for me, the major thing that lets the film down is Kristin Scott-Thomas's performance as Mary Sharon. She went on to do better things, but I just cringe whenever she's onscreen in this. She generates zero chemistry with Prince (unlike Jerome), is unlikeable throughout, and about as sexy as being repeatedly slammed in the nuts with a prada handbag full of gravel.

At no point can you see why Christopher Tracey would fall in love with her, and this completely blows the central premise of the film.

Other than that I love it though thumbs up!


Is there a plot to that movie?

I've only seen a few clips of it, and I'm waiting for a chance for me to buy it.
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Reply #2 posted 07/17/07 8:21am

LittleSmedley

Yes there's a plot
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Reply #3 posted 07/17/07 8:25am

emesem

yes SHE was the problem of the movie. Give me a break.

Nothing to do with the retarded dialog or the horrible ending. That said it has its moments (unlike Graffiti Bridge) and both Mary Sharon and the other chick are cute eye candy.

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Reply #4 posted 07/17/07 8:28am

LittleSmedley

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yes SHE was the problem of the movie. Give me a break.

Nothing to do with the retarded dialog or the horrible ending. That said it has its moments (unlike Graffiti Bridge) and both Mary Sharon and the other chick are cute eye candy.

"Rock, Rock planet Rock, You just cant stop."


i dunno emesem. It ain't that bad. I spose alot of it is nostalgia
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Reply #5 posted 07/17/07 9:29am

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the film is shot beautifully, it looks great. Did prince direct it? If so, its a great effort. The music is spectacluar, too.

Also, the long haired guy out of failed 90's US pop act EYC was quoted in 'Big' magazine as saying UTCM is his fave film of all time

fact


What more proof do you need thats its a top film?!


E Y C ya!
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Reply #6 posted 07/17/07 9:35am

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Whoah, there were more problems than just that broad.
- Direction was cheesy.
- Acting was cheesy.
- Plot was cheesy.
- The execution of the plot was cheesy.

It was a pretty cheesy film.
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Reply #7 posted 07/17/07 9:38am

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RUHip2TheJive said:

LittleSmedley said:

We all know that UTCM is a funny, charming film, and didn't deserve the shit-kicking it got in the 80's.

But for me, the major thing that lets the film down is Kristin Scott-Thomas's performance as Mary Sharon. She went on to do better things, but I just cringe whenever she's onscreen in this. She generates zero chemistry with Prince (unlike Jerome), is unlikeable throughout, and about as sexy as being repeatedly slammed in the nuts with a prada handbag full of gravel.

At no point can you see why Christopher Tracey would fall in love with her, and this completely blows the central premise of the film.

Other than that I love it though thumbs up!


Is there a plot to that movie?

I've only seen a few clips of it, and I'm waiting for a chance for me to buy it.


Here's your chance...

http://cgi.ebay.ie/Prince...dZViewItem
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Reply #8 posted 07/17/07 9:53am

GoldiLocks

no problem, Xcept it followed PR
Xpectations were 2 high
Apples & oranges

HiLites:
Jerome as his Bud
France
B & W
Plot (similar 2 'Dirty Rotten Scoundrels')

i enjoyed seeing P in more of a straight acting role vs. musical/rock film.
demonstrated major risk & 'stretching' on P's part.
the film makes me smile & laugh . . . that's all i can say.
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Reply #9 posted 07/17/07 10:03am

fasteddie

shooting in black and white is a beautiful thang. godard, trauffaut, bresson,...prince. hahahha. just had to see what that looked like.

so yeah, looked great and did have a funny scene or two. also alot of cringeworthy shots as well. still love the 'Mountains' video coming in at the end.
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Reply #10 posted 07/17/07 6:31pm

wlcm2thdwn

Well that was her first movie so give her a break. What I don't like about her is she never mentions UTCM in her movie credits and she once says that she was ashamed of her part in it. mad
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Reply #11 posted 07/17/07 6:41pm

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I love UTCM and I don't have any problems with Kristin's part in it. I do have a problem though with her acting like being in that movie did nothing for her career. HELLO! Before that movie we'd never heard of her. She acts like it was a porno or something!
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Reply #12 posted 07/17/07 6:45pm

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wlcm2thdwn said:

Well that was her first movie so give her a break. What I don't like about her is she never mentions UTCM in her movie credits and she once says that she was ashamed of her part in it. mad



Did she says 'ashamed' or 'embarrased'? The last time I heard her mention the film she said she had a great time making it, that the atmosphere was like a big party when they weren't filming, but that looking back on it she's rather embarrased (either by her performance or the film itself - who could blame her?).

Personally, I think she was one of the few saving graces of the film.
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Reply #13 posted 07/17/07 6:53pm

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LittleSmedley said:

We all know that UTCM is a funny, charming film, and didn't deserve the shit-kicking it got in the 80's.

But for me, the major thing that lets the film down is Kristin Scott-Thomas's performance as Mary Sharon. She went on to do better things, but I just cringe whenever she's onscreen in this. She generates zero chemistry with Prince (unlike Jerome), is unlikeable throughout, and about as sexy as being repeatedly slammed in the nuts with a prada handbag full of gravel.

At no point can you see why Christopher Tracey would fall in love with her, and this completely blows the central premise of the film.

Other than that I love it though thumbs up!

I think you might be on to something.

I mean, yeah, UTCM suffered from an iffy script and lacklustre acting but so did every second movie in the 80's. It's not like this was a crap movie sticking out like a pile of manure in a field of clover, is it? It didn't deserve the frowns it got.

Kristen Scott Thomas turned out to be a decent actress -after she did this movie. But you're right, she and Mr. Christopher Tracy ha absoultely zero chemistry. Why was she cast as the love interest if they reacted to each other like siblings? confuse
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Reply #14 posted 07/17/07 6:55pm

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MuthaFunka said:

Whoah, there were more problems than just that broad.
- Direction was cheesy.
- Acting was cheesy.
- Plot was cheesy.
- The execution of the plot was cheesy.

It was a pretty cheesy film.

All that is also true of Purple Rain, and it's pretty much universally loved, even by non-fans. Half the best-loved movies of that decade are cheesy, badly-written and badly acted.
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Reply #15 posted 07/17/07 7:06pm

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wlcm2thdwn said:

Well that was her first movie so give her a break. What I don't like about her is she never mentions UTCM in her movie credits and she once says that she was ashamed of her part in it. mad


Whaaa! omg Prince gave her her first leading lady role in a big film and her ass had the nerve 2 say she was ashamed of it. I could see if she had shown titties some bootay or even 1 tit, but she didn't. How ungrateful can u get? {Heffa talk to the hand} lol
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Reply #16 posted 07/17/07 8:38pm

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wlcm2thdwn said:

Well that was her first movie so give her a break. What I don't like about her is she never mentions UTCM in her movie credits and she once says that she was ashamed of her part in it. mad


Um, did you see the movie? lol
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Reply #17 posted 07/17/07 8:40pm

MuthaFunka

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meow85 said:

MuthaFunka said:

Whoah, there were more problems than just that broad.
- Direction was cheesy.
- Acting was cheesy.
- Plot was cheesy.
- The execution of the plot was cheesy.

It was a pretty cheesy film.

All that is also true of Purple Rain, and it's pretty much universally loved, even by non-fans. Half the best-loved movies of that decade are cheesy, badly-written and badly acted.


Naw, PR had a good premise. The direction was good. The ovearall acting was good, especially to see Mo'iss breakout. No one broke out in UTCM, except the audience - In layghter when there shoudn't have been lol .
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Reply #18 posted 07/17/07 8:54pm

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wow, i thought it was the script, the acting, the direction, and the entire idea to even do it. huh. learn something new every day. it was the future Oscar winner's fault lol
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Reply #19 posted 07/17/07 9:00pm

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RUHip2TheJive said:

Is there a plot to that movie?

Some of us dont watch it 4 the plot....just because prince is in it lol
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Reply #20 posted 07/17/07 9:03pm

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MuthaFunka said:

meow85 said:


All that is also true of Purple Rain, and it's pretty much universally loved, even by non-fans. Half the best-loved movies of that decade are cheesy, badly-written and badly acted.


Naw, PR had a good premise. The direction was good. The ovearall acting was good, especially to see Mo'iss breakout. No one broke out in UTCM, except the audience - In layghter when there shoudn't have been lol .

You thought the acting was good in PR? eek
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Reply #21 posted 07/17/07 9:49pm

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MuthaFunka said:

meow85 said:


All that is also true of Purple Rain, and it's pretty much universally loved, even by non-fans. Half the best-loved movies of that decade are cheesy, badly-written and badly acted.


Naw, PR had a good premise. The direction was good. The ovearall acting was good, especially to see Mo'iss breakout. No one broke out in UTCM, except the audience - In layghter when there shoudn't have been lol .


What theater did you see it in? I saw it the first time at the Bel Air Drive In in Detroit, it was the last movie that showed there before it was dismantled and turned into a strip mall. No one laughed when they shouldn't have, we partied!!
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Reply #22 posted 07/17/07 11:19pm

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meow85 said:

MuthaFunka said:



Naw, PR had a good premise. The direction was good. The ovearall acting was good, especially to see Mo'iss breakout. No one broke out in UTCM, except the audience - In layghter when there shoudn't have been lol .

You thought the acting was good in PR? eek


Well ok it was much better than UTCM. Too much over-the-topness in Cherry.
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Reply #23 posted 07/17/07 11:21pm

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SexyBeautifulOne said:

MuthaFunka said:



Naw, PR had a good premise. The direction was good. The ovearall acting was good, especially to see Mo'iss breakout. No one broke out in UTCM, except the audience - In layghter when there shoudn't have been lol .


What theater did you see it in? I saw it the first time at the Bel Air Drive In in Detroit, it was the last movie that showed there before it was dismantled and turned into a strip mall. No one laughed when they shouldn't have, we partied!!


I saw it in Westwood, Ca with my girlfriend at the time - a big Prince fan like me. She got sick from the popcorn and missed a lot of it while hurling in the bathroom. Then she comes back and kisses me. Yuck. Then again, she could have been sick from the movie! lol
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Reply #24 posted 07/17/07 11:49pm

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Wow I totally disagree, in fact many a review I've read has said that if it weren't for her bringing a little credibility to the film, it would have been just another Prince kitsch-fest with goood music like Graffiti Bridge.

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Reply #25 posted 07/18/07 1:46am

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UTCM was supposed to be a campy caricature. that's why its classic, cheesiness and all (and it IS velveeta) i'm glad P was able to laugh at himself. old girl was kinda uptight, that was intended to be Susan, but hey enjoy it for what it is. her denial reminds me of Jim Carey tryin' to front like he was never on Living Color back in the day.
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Reply #26 posted 07/18/07 7:25am

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emesem said:

yes SHE was the problem of the movie. Give me a break.

Nothing to do with the retarded dialog or the horrible ending. That said it has its moments (unlike Graffiti Bridge) and both Mary Sharon and the other chick are cute eye candy.

"Rock, Rock planet Rock, You just cant stop."



horrible ending? r u referring 2 the character of christopher being killed?
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #27 posted 07/18/07 10:17am

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LittleSmedley said:

We all know that UTCM is a funny, charming film, and didn't deserve the shit-kicking it got in the 80's.

But for me, the major thing that lets the film down is Kristin Scott-Thomas's performance as Mary Sharon. She went on to do better things, but I just cringe whenever she's onscreen in this. She generates zero chemistry with Prince (unlike Jerome), is unlikeable throughout, and about as sexy as being repeatedly slammed in the nuts with a prada handbag full of gravel.

At no point can you see why Christopher Tracey would fall in love with her, and this completely blows the central premise of the film.

Other than that I love it though thumbs up!


All of following is taking from PURPLE REIGN by LIZ JONES(1998)

UNDER THE CHERRY MOON WON EIGHT Rasberry awards -the alternative to the oscars. "SCOTT THOMAS was completely miscast inthe film,but then u cant really blame PRINCE for not being Alfred Hitchock the onlyman who would have been able to understand and exploit her brand of sexiness"observes TOM SHONE FILM CRITIC ofthe SUNDAY TIMES.The two apparently fell out after the film wrapped-Prince tore up the invitation to her wedding,but they recently made up over tea in London.He didn't seem aware thatshe was still inthe acting business.

"Working onthe film(UTCM)was fun-party allthe time" SCOTT recalled in HARPERS BAZAAR."There were all these limosines and handlers and managers all kinds of glitzy stuff but it wasnt my thing,and i was terribly disappointed in my self for not being able to get into it.What was i supposed to do? Sit there like a potted plant?"

The movie would take only a third of its budget.PRINCE though says he learned from his mistakes "I learned that i cant direct what i didn't write."
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Reply #28 posted 07/18/07 2:00pm

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I agree. There was no spark between Kristin's character and Prince. If there were, Perhaps UTCM would've been a better movie. As it stands, I would only watch the film to see its funny parts. Like when Prince and Jerome dropped the ladder and ran, while jerome kept saying. You Did It To Mary's Mom!!" Or Jerome challenging the bodyguards "PUNK, PUNK, PUNK!!". And Jerome's terrible attempt to act grief stricken when Prince got shot. "OH GOD, PLEASE, NOT HIM" He looked like he was laughing rather then crying.
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Reply #29 posted 07/19/07 7:20am

LittleSmedley

ThePunisher said:

I agree. There was no spark between Kristin's character and Prince. If there were, Perhaps UTCM would've been a better movie. As it stands, I would only watch the film to see its funny parts. Like when Prince and Jerome dropped the ladder and ran, while jerome kept saying. You Did It To Mary's Mom!!" Or Jerome challenging the bodyguards "PUNK, PUNK, PUNK!!". And Jerome's terrible attempt to act grief stricken when Prince got shot. "OH GOD, PLEASE, NOT HIM" He looked like he was laughing rather then crying.


Or when Prince simply exclaims,

"PISS!"

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