When U C an illusion everywhere U look
When U know the process of creation
When U understand everything in every book
Congratulations...
U're in the New Power Generation

Freaks on this side

and:

B4 the truth I did not care
Now I feel it Everywhere

Everywhere

For those of you who are not familiar with the term 'enlightenment': this is term that is used by many spiritual traditions indicating a state of non-suffering. The end of pain. A state of permanent peace of mind regardless of the outside circumstances.

Personally when people say they found "the truth" I always think about the words former President of Czechoslovakia, Vaclav Havel once said: "Embrace the company of those that seek the truth, and run from those who have found it".

i think there's a wall between prince and enlightenment. and i'm not talking about JW or larry or any of that stuff. i think there's a kind of bravado or false front that prince puts on that keeps him from being vulnerable and open to a lot of things. i think he has a very powerful mind and a very powerful soul, but it seems like being the true gemini he is, he's always at war with himself. or not.

Well as a devout Buddhist, if you're referring to the state of cessation, or even to having reached a state of Bohdi , hell no he isn't



But speculating on Prince's state of mind is better gaged with his choice of Singles than anything else.

Religion in itself is not enlightenment.

I think Prince is enlightened on some matters.

He's an enlightened musician that I do know.

OperatingThetan said:

Yes, but the person who created the thread is talking about cessation, and not a mundane application of the word enlightenment here.

Though I feel prince is "enlightened" on certain matters--obviously he's a visionary of sorts , with regards to the application of the word in the context the poster is saying, I'm doubt Prince is near that level.


Again, I base all my speculation on his choice of singles.

yeah, i guess the question here is "enlightened in WHAT capacity?"

though i DO think imago likes prince way too much.

Anxiety said:

Dont' make me break out the crutches.

get real

Prince has major issues still!

He is not sociable. He does not like talking to other humans unless about god.

He does not take any pics with fans. He makes videos and won't allow them to be viewed.

He is a prick

Imago said:

Visionaries are sometimes awful with implementation. I think he is a visionary with no wisdom -

he isn't enlightened. I think he's an excellent musician and I do think Prince is a "thinker" of sorts but enlightened....

Anxiety said:

I think u're right on this one

Imago said:[quote]Well as a devout Buddhist, if you're referring to the state of cessation, or even to having reached a state of Bohdi [quote]

Yes, that was what I meant.

icke4presidant said:

Isn't this a sign of Enlightenment? The only thing that matters when u achieved enlightenment is your relationship with God. Everything else becomes a futility.

Christaro said:

:nod:that's right, you've got it.

Nope. Not even close. His ego is too huge.

Christaro said:

this lyric always leads to violent, uncontrollable vomiting for me. I think it's the absolute worst lyric he's ever written. I really want to punch him for it.

As a Buddhist myself, yes I do think he is an enlightened soul. I also know many other Buddhists who agree with this assessment. But we each perceive what we will.

Christaro said:

disagree....


Everything becomes about God....not just your relationship with him.

I do think he is and that's why he's sometimes so ahead of his time but he will always be searching for more.

OperatingThetan said:

Wisdom?

No offense to anyone, but I'm surprised anyone would think Prince is enlightened. What exactly has he done that gives you the impression that he might be enlightened?
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No. Far from it.

"Bodhi (enlightenment) is attained when the ten fetters that bind a human being to the wheel of samsara have been dissolved; when the Four Noble Truths have been fully understood and all volitional conditioning has reached cessation (nirodha) giving rise to transcendent peace (nibbana). At this moment, the psychological roots of all greed (lobha), aversion (dosa), delusion (moha), ignorance (avijjā), craving (tanha) and ego-centered consciousness (attā) are completely uprooted.

coolcat said:

When U C an illusion everywhere U look
When U know the process of creation
When U understand everything in every book
Congratulations...
U're in the New Power Generation

Freaks on this side

and:

B4 the truth I did not care
Now I feel it Everywhere

Everywhere

Christaro said:

so egotism + self-promotion = enlightenment?


as i said before, that is the worst lyric he's ever written and it makes me want to vomit and punch him. so you really ought to come up with better evidence than that for his supposed enlightenment.

Raze said:

When U C an illusion everywhere U look

This is a state where spiritual Masters reside.

Enlightened - No

Always searching for something - Yes

trc1 said:

he has no wisdom....you see this in that he has good ideas but can't seem to implement them effectively. He's website, GREAT idea....and yet didn't really live up to the hype because of ego.

Prince is a great musician.

christos7 said:

How could Prince achieve this level? Even the Dalai Lama admits to tanha (cravings). He said sometims he just really, really wants meat -- and ate veal and all other kinds of yummy stuff when he was in Madison earlier this year.

Christaro said:

Prince is simply reciting teachings that have spread for thousands of years and writing them in his lyrics. Doesn't mean that he's actually living this stuff. Anyone can claim to see illusion everywhere...

Christaro said:

Quoting the same lyric over and over does not make a case for his enlightenment. Especially when it's the worst verse he's ever written.