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Reply #240 posted 07/18/07 3:19pm

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BanishedBrian said:

EmancipationLover said:


Wasn't the band he was touring with in 2002 ca. 80 % the same as for the Musicology tour in 2004 and also for recording the Musicology album?

Well, I suppose it was now that I think about. I think TRC had Najee on it, and I don't believe he participated on Musicology. I don't think Maceo or Candy did either. So there was an abandonment of live horns, which were a strength of the ONA band and some of the recordings made right before Musicology.

I guess my point is that prior to Musicology, I felt like he had a band capable of producing an album where the musicians challenged each other. On Musicology, though Renato and JB are playing, it doesn't feel much like a collaborative recording as much of them just playing simple parts dictated by Prince. Then again, take this with somewhat of a grain of salt, as Musicology bored me so much I really have thought about it less than almost any other album.

And the Musicology tour was fine btw...so perhaps the sluggishness of that album is just due to Prince wanting to go Pop again. Or maybe while he had the band members, he just focussed them more on touring than really collaborating with him in the studio.

Or maybe Larry G really is the key ingredient and the problem was Rhonda. wink
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Are you kidding me? Maceo and Candy played on several Musicology tracks, and, if I'm not completely wrong, also played on the tour. I think the only differences compared to ONA, band-wise, were LG and Najee (not on Musicology - did they even play all ONA gigs?) plus the added keyboard player for the Musicology tour (what was his name?).

And if you really want to tell me now that LG made that difference you see, then I'm going to LOL because he's the number one candidate of most orgers in the "people who made Prince suck" list.
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Reply #241 posted 07/18/07 3:20pm

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Jochem said:

2903dad said:

"Sometimes being a cold hard bitch is all a woman has left."

I'm sorry.

for what??
"Sometimes being a cold hard bitch is all a woman has left."
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Reply #242 posted 07/18/07 3:26pm

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Shapeshifter said:

love2thenines2003 said:




When u all will understand (this is sad..i know) that THE PRINCE from the eighties is DEAD 4 EVER and ever...PRINCE can't make an album like 1999 or SOTT again....his Best period was 1980-1988.....your only hopes (as for me) is to see the release of his Remastered WB back catalogue with unreleased stuff from this ERA....That's IT!



But herein lies the problem. Post-WB, Prince's output was patchy, but it still had genius moments. He only got bland and predictable when he dealt with majors and returned to the mainstream. Rave had its moments, but it was, overall, his worst album since Chaos & Disorder (which, in the context of his Sony sponsored output, comes on like a work of genius, as opposed to the loud, bitter hissy-fit it was). Emancipation was a 50 minute masterpiece lost in three hours of overindulgence. NPG Soul had three outstanding songs on it. TRC was his strongest and most consistent - and, yes- his best album since Gold Experience.
And I consider Xpectation a masterpiece.

Unfortunately, since he's decided to re-enter the mainstream, he's released three unbelievably bland, boring albums which all clock in at attention-retaining times (45 minutes exactly!). Planet Earth is marginally better than 3121 or Musicology, but we're talking grades of manure here. I'd rather he retired from mainstream music altogether than to keep on serving up this bilge.
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Could it be that Prince has released so much DIFFERENT stuff that it's simple impossible for him to please everyone? You prefer experimental stuff, but as soon as he's doing it again, the pop lovers will complain (many people here dislike TRC), and now it's the other way around. Then the rock folks don't like the R'n'B tracks, the R'n'B oldschoolers can't stand all the pop/rock etc. etc.

Also, I think it should be taken into account that POPSTARS like Prince simply have their fair share of vanity and love the limelight. Surely, they might take some "years off" and do some more underground-ish stuff, but maybe it's difficult for them to enjoy that on a constant basis. Look at Bowie - almost the same story: artistic crisis, then self therapy (Tin Machine), but then the return to the pop scene followed (maybe with the notable exception of "Outside"). I think he even admitted in an interview that his vanity forced him to end Tin Machine.
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Reply #243 posted 07/18/07 3:48pm

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Will we get a new PE thread when the album is in stores, so that we can talk about it without yet another nowhere-leading discussion of his post-Warner years?

Please.
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Reply #244 posted 07/18/07 4:18pm

Haystack

Now I've listened to the proper CD umpteen times, absorbing it and dissecting it, I'd like to make a few observations. Bear in mind that I'm no musician and I've no idea about the technical processes in creating, mixing and producing a music album.

Firstly, the one thing I like about this album is that it sounds so organic and doesn't have the over-produced sounds of 3121 and Musicology. 'The One U Wanna C', 'All The Midnights In The World', 'Lion Of Judah' and 'Resolution' all have a wonderful 'live' studio feel to them, as if they were recorded with a band all together and recorded in one take (probably not the case, but that's how it seems to sound to me). Even 'Planet Earth' doesn't sound like there's been too much studio embellishment going on considering it's general BIGness.
The 3D 'soundscape' sounds a lot more natural on this album, if that makes sense.

Secondly, it's not as bloody LOUD as the 3121 and Musicology CDs.
The speeded-up P voice on 3121 hurts my ears and sets my teeth on edge when played loudly on my headphones and Prince's speeded-up voice has never done that elsewhere. Likewise the initial 'OoOoh!' at the start of the 'Musicology' track does the same.
Planet Earth seems to have softened the actual sound of the music and it's all the better for it in my opinion. If I play 'Mr Goodnight' on my mp3 player, then switch immediately to 'What Do U Want Me 2 Do', the drum sound on the latter immediately grates until my ears get used to the louder sound.

Thirdly, the songs flow brilliantly together and give a true feeling of being an album rather than a collection of songs. The songs I mentioned in my 'Firstly' paragraph of this post to me give this album a sense of being part of an era. Although the songs themselves don't represent anything truly new with regards to Prince's catalogue, the actual way they sound on the album gives off a one-take live-recording feel that Prince has seldom captured before in one album in my opinion. I think when we all look back, this is what we'll remember about Planet Earth.

And in terms of the songs, it's 'All The Midnights In The World' that's doing it for me above all the others right now. At first, it just seemed like a light-weight quirky number, but there's something about it that just gets under the skin and stays there. And the more you listen to it, the more you pick up on the subtle parts that aren't immediately apparent.
'Future Baby Mama' is probably the one that's doing it the least for me. Even though I do like it, it's just that the rest of the album is more enjoyable for me right now and FBM sounds the most generic of the set.

This album is Prince being melodic and singalong with a hint of each of his known genres thrown in for good measure.

Short but very sweet and in time, I definitely think it'll be looked upon as the best of the Musicology, 3121 and Planet Earth trilogy.
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Reply #245 posted 07/18/07 4:36pm

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Haystack said:

Now I've listened to the proper CD umpteen times, absorbing it and dissecting it, I'd like to make a few observations. Bear in mind that I'm no musician and I've no idea about the technical processes in creating, mixing and producing a music album.

Firstly, the one thing I like about this album is that it sounds so organic and doesn't have the over-produced sounds of 3121 and Musicology. 'The One U Wanna C', 'All The Midnights In The World', 'Lion Of Judah' and 'Resolution' all have a wonderful 'live' studio feel to them, as if they were recorded with a band all together and recorded in one take (probably not the case, but that's how it seems to sound to me). Even 'Planet Earth' doesn't sound like there's been too much studio embellishment going on considering it's general BIGness.
The 3D 'soundscape' sounds a lot more natural on this album, if that makes sense.

Secondly, it's not as bloody LOUD as the 3121 and Musicology CDs.
The speeded-up P voice on 3121 hurts my ears and sets my teeth on edge when played loudly on my headphones and Prince's speeded-up voice has never done that elsewhere. Likewise the initial 'OoOoh!' at the start of the 'Musicology' track does the same.
Planet Earth seems to have softened the actual sound of the music and it's all the better for it in my opinion. If I play 'Mr Goodnight' on my mp3 player, then switch immediately to 'What Do U Want Me 2 Do', the drum sound on the latter immediately grates until my ears get used to the louder sound.

Thirdly, the songs flow brilliantly together and give a true feeling of being an album rather than a collection of songs. The songs I mentioned in my 'Firstly' paragraph of this post to me give this album a sense of being part of an era. Although the songs themselves don't represent anything truly new with regards to Prince's catalogue, the actual way they sound on the album gives off a one-take live-recording feel that Prince has seldom captured before in one album in my opinion. I think when we all look back, this is what we'll remember about Planet Earth.

And in terms of the songs, it's 'All The Midnights In The World' that's doing it for me above all the others right now. At first, it just seemed like a light-weight quirky number, but there's something about it that just gets under the skin and stays there. And the more you listen to it, the more you pick up on the subtle parts that aren't immediately apparent.
'Future Baby Mama' is probably the one that's doing it the least for me. Even though I do like it, it's just that the rest of the album is more enjoyable for me right now and FBM sounds the most generic of the set.

This album is Prince being melodic and singalong with a hint of each of his known genres thrown in for good measure.

Short but very sweet and in time, I definitely think it'll be looked upon as the best of the Musicology, 3121 and Planet Earth trilogy.

Very nice observations that I agree with 100%.
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Reply #246 posted 07/18/07 9:45pm

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EmancipationLover said:

Shapeshifter said:




But herein lies the problem. Post-WB, Prince's output was patchy, but it still had genius moments. He only got bland and predictable when he dealt with majors and returned to the mainstream. Rave had its moments, but it was, overall, his worst album since Chaos & Disorder (which, in the context of his Sony sponsored output, comes on like a work of genius, as opposed to the loud, bitter hissy-fit it was). Emancipation was a 50 minute masterpiece lost in three hours of overindulgence. NPG Soul had three outstanding songs on it. TRC was his strongest and most consistent - and, yes- his best album since Gold Experience.
And I consider Xpectation a masterpiece.

Unfortunately, since he's decided to re-enter the mainstream, he's released three unbelievably bland, boring albums which all clock in at attention-retaining times (45 minutes exactly!). Planet Earth is marginally better than 3121 or Musicology, but we're talking grades of manure here. I'd rather he retired from mainstream music altogether than to keep on serving up this bilge.
[Edited 7/18/07 15:01pm]


Could it be that Prince has released so much DIFFERENT stuff that it's simple impossible for him to please everyone? You prefer experimental stuff, but as soon as he's doing it again, the pop lovers will complain (many people here dislike TRC), and now it's the other way around. Then the rock folks don't like the R'n'B tracks, the R'n'B oldschoolers can't stand all the pop/rock etc. etc.

Also, I think it should be taken into account that POPSTARS like Prince simply have their fair share of vanity and love the limelight. Surely, they might take some "years off" and do some more underground-ish stuff, but maybe it's difficult for them to enjoy that on a constant basis. Look at Bowie - almost the same story: artistic crisis, then self therapy (Tin Machine), but then the return to the pop scene followed (maybe with the notable exception of "Outside"). I think he even admitted in an interview that his vanity forced him to end Tin Machine.



I know what you mean about the pop fans vs the experimental ones, but I only mentioned his post-WB stuff to keep things in a fairly contemporary context. You can't reasonably compare his current output with his golden era, because he's evolved as both a songwriter and an artist since then. The trouble is, on the strength of the last four albums he's released, he seems to have devolved.

I LOVE Prince's straight-forward pop stuff as much as his experimental stuff. And I would have loved for him to have released four kick-ass albums, or at least four reasonably good ones since 2004, but, to these ears, they're simply half-hearted retreads of past glories. Prince by numbers for the numbers.

That Prince wants to make buckets of money and be adored by the masses again is fine by me, but I just wish he'd written an album every bit as attention-grabbing as its innovative marketing strategy.
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Reply #247 posted 07/18/07 11:45pm

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I think those of you that think he is just trying to get the masses back and get rich are so wrong. There is something much bigger going on, bigger than the songs themselves. The album is not great, but what he is doing for music is.
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Reply #248 posted 07/19/07 12:38am

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2903dad said:

for what??

For the fact that you think that "Sometimes being a cold hard bitch is all a woman has left."
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Reply #249 posted 07/19/07 1:19am

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wizard said:

Some albums I can play them over and over again. PE is not one of them and I haven't even buy the album yet.


Interesting...for me PE is the first Prince CD in a long while that I
can play over and over again from start to finish!

I love it!


Same here, I'm loving it from start to finish. Especially Lion of Judah, my favourite Prince track in a long time.
...shall we go back?...let's go
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Reply #250 posted 07/19/07 3:50am

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Yeah...and those are Prince's supporters!
I heard a thing on Radio 1 in the UK on Sunday morning when the album came out (of the paper) and it was all these 18 year old kids who didn't really know much about Prince and their comments were pretty brutal in parts but nothing compared to those of this web-site's users.

It's ironic, again, that this album will, it seems, end up filling up holes in Planet Earth once the 'novelty-coaster' use wears off in UK households.
If the reports that prince will go off travelling for a few years are true, then well and good. I definitely think that a break from recording and writing and time spent listening to more White Stripes and less Beyonce will do him the world of good.

More than anything else, it's clear that Prince is running on empty as far as things to say goes.

I also think that the Mail on Sunday attention-seeker was a little excessive and has returned him to 'File Under Petulant Egomaniacs' in the press/public imagination.

If you're gonna play an ACE, make sure it's in the right muthafunkin' PLACE.

I've been saying for ages around here that Paul McCartney and Prince are in an unspoken (healthy) competition to get around the blocks that press and record companies have imposed. With the freebie giveaway, he did what he did with the walking-offstage at the end of the George Harrison tribute and a million times before (Slave, anybody?) which is OVER-STATE his case to the point where people just turn right the funk offa his channel. These are the rules you don't break.

Nobody DESERVES respect. They need to earn it and Prince's problem is that as soon as he gets a little respect (2004-6), he pumps himself up into a purple ego-monster and self-destructs.

I think we may find ourselves back in the 'Why am I so misunderstood?' phase before too long and that's when Prince is at his most pathetic.
Already, the effect of the MOS giveaway is apparent. Prince albums selling at UKP5 this week and a cheap video compilation DVD that is tailor made for the 'Poundstretcher' stores.
He has devalued himself in one fell swoop. And all to show he's got a big cock, music-business wise. Yeah...well it's what you do with it, Princey...
smile

As McCartney is his competition in the legacy stakes, he should also become his mentor. Love him or leave him, Macca takes his hard-earned respect and makes something of it.


BanishedBrian said:

Some people aren't really getting much enjoyment from these tracks.

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Reply #251 posted 07/19/07 4:31am

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Yeah...
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Reply #252 posted 07/19/07 4:51am

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Yes, he deserves respect for trying out some new things with this give-away.

It's kind strange that some many post their comments like it's the truth of them all when it's just another opinion really.
And as for "these are the rules you don't break" - why not? You can break any rules if you're willing to deal with the consequences and sacrifice something for it. And he might just have accepted that.
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Reply #253 posted 07/19/07 7:07am

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I got PE yesterday and I love this album cool much better than 3121. thumbs up!
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Reply #254 posted 07/19/07 7:17am

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I got it today in Germany
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Reply #255 posted 07/19/07 8:01am

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RumAndRaisin said:

Heres My Review from the other thread:

Planet Earth = Empty Room:
Big Rock opener. Starts off very intimate with just princes voice and piano, then in come the drums. Than for the chorus its even bigger with a stadium rock style chorus. The breakdown is ultra catchy, especially with the keys. 9/10

Guitar = I Like It There / Cream:
Good single material. Has a really good guitar solo that EVRERYONE will end up Air Guitaring. 8/10

Somewhere Here On Earth = One Kiss At a Time / I Love U But I Dont Trust U Anymore:
Very Jazzy. You can imaging Prince at a piano in some french resturant playing this song. Brilliant piano solo by Renato. 9/10

The One U Wanna C = Cinamon Girl :
Pop-Rock. Really Catchy song that will most likely be a single. The slap bass strangely suits the song (I wernt sure at first). Nice bursts of guitar here and there aswell. 8/10

Future baby Mama = (Melody) Eye Hate U :
"I like that umm, Future Baby Mama.." (That really should of been included at the beggining of the song lol) Second best on the album. You wont get the verse out of your head for weeks. Very nice melody and the breakdown works well although could of been more powerfull. 10/10

Mr Goodnight = Push It Up! :
FBM's Cousin. Finnaly prince raps again! (Sort Of). Seeing as im a big NPS fan, i enjoyed this song, but alot of people might not might not. Picture Prince and rosie gaines doing the chorus whilst Tony M does the verses whilst the npg play in the background around 1992 (Gangsta Glam video would suit this song perfectly). 9/10

All The Midnights = Resolution :
This is a short, fun album filler type of song. Although its still good, but its too short to take seriously. When you start to get into it it goes off. 7/10

Chelsea Rogers = In Love :
Best Prince song in years! This is so funky! Shelby also is a nice addition. The whole song is perfect, Insanely catchy melody, funky dtums and keys with more slap bass thrown in on top. Best on the album. 10/10

Lion Of Judah = Wherever You Go :
I think W&L are on the last two tracks of this album. Starts off like Purple Rain with the guitar chords and bass drum combo. Religious undertones are in there somewhere, but its still a good song. 7/10

Resolution = So Far So Pleased:
Cheesy Christian rock. But the songs so catchy and upbeat that you end up humming and singing along. But its another song that too short. 8/10


All in all, the albums better than 3121. It rounds up the trio of albums nicely:

Musicology : 8/10
3121 : 9/10
Planet Earth : 9.5/10

I love 3121 but PE just slightly wins becuase of Chelsea Rogers and FBM.


I agree with this review 100%. Best Prince album in years. It has the cohesiveness that 3121 lacked, and the musical diversity that Musicology lacked. In My Very Humble Opinion, this is the best Prince album since SOTT. We'll see how it lasts, but my first impression is WOW.
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Reply #256 posted 07/19/07 8:38am

17daysLuv

again,again and again Prince surprising me positivly.
planet earth sounds like -around a world in a day- with -Parade- and -sign"O" the times- plus a little bit _emancipation_.

planet earth is a great album.

eye wanna love to hear it live in london yes

obrigado prince Prince
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Reply #257 posted 07/19/07 8:39am

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Can someone please tell me if the cd of which we can purchase will include liner notes? I love to be able to read the liner notes.
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Reply #258 posted 07/19/07 8:40am

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I am thrilled with the new CD. It's been a long time (in my opinion) since Prince released a CD that is enjoyable in its entirety. I have listened to Planet Earth from front to back five times now. For the first time in a long time, I don't find myself skipping over any tracks. They're all good. The title track would feel right at home on the 1999 album and it's great to hear Wendy & Lisa with Prince again, especially on Resolution -- beautiful! I'm also thrilled to see Prince simultaneously make money, give his music away to the masses, and screw the music industry. I LOVE it!
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Reply #259 posted 07/19/07 8:56am

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PaisleyPark5083 said:

Can someone please tell me if the cd of which we can purchase will include liner notes? I love to be able to read the liner notes.

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www.metrolyrics.com/plane...rince.html
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Reply #260 posted 07/19/07 9:00am

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17daysLuv said:

PaisleyPark5083 said:

Can someone please tell me if the cd of which we can purchase will include liner notes? I love to be able to read the liner notes.

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eye found this for U

www.metrolyrics.com/plane...rince.html

Wow!! Thank you!! thanks alot! I love Prince fans, always so helpful!! music
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Reply #261 posted 07/19/07 9:10am

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I am truly surprised about the extremely positive reactions on this album. I've listened to it about 5 times now and its even hard to make it through the whole album. Even for prince, this record is too much, it's not even funny in a kitchy or a charming way to listen to the lyrics of Guitar or Mr Goodnight. It's just embarissing. The Chelsea-track, which people seems to reconsider as the highlight, would be the weakest track on both 3121 and Musicology. I didnt know what to expect i the first place, but i'm disipointed about the new record.

This is for people how think that New Power Soul is the best album ever. I'm not one of them.
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Reply #262 posted 07/19/07 9:36am

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Could this be the most love it or hate it album of the man's career?
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Reply #263 posted 07/19/07 12:24pm

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where do you get hold of or lidten to the music before it´s release?
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Reply #264 posted 07/19/07 1:34pm

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Jochem said:

2903dad said:

for what??

For the fact that you think that "Sometimes being a cold hard bitch is all a woman has left."

razz
"Sometimes being a cold hard bitch is all a woman has left."
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Reply #265 posted 07/19/07 6:19pm

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Can someone please tell me if the cd of which we can purchase will include liner notes?


Yeah - what comes with the cd? - a booklet ? - a fold-out poster ? - nothing ?
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Reply #266 posted 07/19/07 8:15pm

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where do you get hold of or lidten to the music before it´s release?

It is streaming on MSN music page for free!!!! There is a link on the org's home page.
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Reply #267 posted 07/20/07 1:21am

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Haystack said:

Now I've listened to the proper CD umpteen times, absorbing it and dissecting it, I'd like to make a few observations. Bear in mind that I'm no musician and I've no idea about the technical processes in creating, mixing and producing a music album.

Firstly, the one thing I like about this album is that it sounds so organic and doesn't have the over-produced sounds of 3121 and Musicology. 'The One U Wanna C', 'All The Midnights In The World', 'Lion Of Judah' and 'Resolution' all have a wonderful 'live' studio feel to them, as if they were recorded with a band all together and recorded in one take (probably not the case, but that's how it seems to sound to me). Even 'Planet Earth' doesn't sound like there's been too much studio embellishment going on considering it's general BIGness.
The 3D 'soundscape' sounds a lot more natural on this album, if that makes sense.

Secondly, it's not as bloody LOUD as the 3121 and Musicology CDs.
The speeded-up P voice on 3121 hurts my ears and sets my teeth on edge when played loudly on my headphones and Prince's speeded-up voice has never done that elsewhere. Likewise the initial 'OoOoh!' at the start of the 'Musicology' track does the same.
Planet Earth seems to have softened the actual sound of the music and it's all the better for it in my opinion. If I play 'Mr Goodnight' on my mp3 player, then switch immediately to 'What Do U Want Me 2 Do', the drum sound on the latter immediately grates until my ears get used to the louder sound.

Thirdly, the songs flow brilliantly together and give a true feeling of being an album rather than a collection of songs. The songs I mentioned in my 'Firstly' paragraph of this post to me give this album a sense of being part of an era. Although the songs themselves don't represent anything truly new with regards to Prince's catalogue, the actual way they sound on the album gives off a one-take live-recording feel that Prince has seldom captured before in one album in my opinion. I think when we all look back, this is what we'll remember about Planet Earth.

And in terms of the songs, it's 'All The Midnights In The World' that's doing it for me above all the others right now. At first, it just seemed like a light-weight quirky number, but there's something about it that just gets under the skin and stays there. And the more you listen to it, the more you pick up on the subtle parts that aren't immediately apparent.
'Future Baby Mama' is probably the one that's doing it the least for me. Even though I do like it, it's just that the rest of the album is more enjoyable for me right now and FBM sounds the most generic of the set.

This album is Prince being melodic and singalong with a hint of each of his known genres thrown in for good measure.

Short but very sweet and in time, I definitely think it'll be looked upon as the best of the Musicology, 3121 and Planet Earth trilogy.



I disagree on every point.

Sorry, but a review like that is dilusion. There is only one word for PE when compared to what Prince is capable of: POINTLESS.

I doubt I will give it many more times airplay. I clocked it at first listen. there's nothing to explore. Same as musicology, same as 3121.

Best albums since his NPG days were TRC and Expectation. Thats it. Those are albums that required exploring. How he could go from that to this, and you lot lovin' it I'll never know. PE is boring. And its not pop. Try even Buble's "its time" album. Jazz standards maybe, but what a singer, what superb world class production. THAT is pop. THAT gets repeat on my player. PE is just lame. The title track has its moments, then thats it. A snooze fest by most pop standards. Only the most hardcore of fans will like it, and thats a small amount. Have you actually compared this to mainstream stuff? Nothing like it mate.

PE is a whole load of fuss about nothing. If you like it, cool. But I will pass on this one. Anbother one to add to my dusty collection of recent prince albums.

I think 319 (the song) has more energy, soul, passion, class, uniqueness, raunch and funk than the PE album put together!!

Nuff proven. Nuff said.
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Reply #268 posted 07/20/07 1:28am

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PurpleHouse said:

Haystack said:

Now I've listened to the proper CD umpteen times, absorbing it and dissecting it, I'd like to make a few observations. Bear in mind that I'm no musician and I've no idea about the technical processes in creating, mixing and producing a music album.

Firstly, the one thing I like about this album is that it sounds so organic and doesn't have the over-produced sounds of 3121 and Musicology. 'The One U Wanna C', 'All The Midnights In The World', 'Lion Of Judah' and 'Resolution' all have a wonderful 'live' studio feel to them, as if they were recorded with a band all together and recorded in one take (probably not the case, but that's how it seems to sound to me). Even 'Planet Earth' doesn't sound like there's been too much studio embellishment going on considering it's general BIGness.
The 3D 'soundscape' sounds a lot more natural on this album, if that makes sense.

Secondly, it's not as bloody LOUD as the 3121 and Musicology CDs.
The speeded-up P voice on 3121 hurts my ears and sets my teeth on edge when played loudly on my headphones and Prince's speeded-up voice has never done that elsewhere. Likewise the initial 'OoOoh!' at the start of the 'Musicology' track does the same.
Planet Earth seems to have softened the actual sound of the music and it's all the better for it in my opinion. If I play 'Mr Goodnight' on my mp3 player, then switch immediately to 'What Do U Want Me 2 Do', the drum sound on the latter immediately grates until my ears get used to the louder sound.

Thirdly, the songs flow brilliantly together and give a true feeling of being an album rather than a collection of songs. The songs I mentioned in my 'Firstly' paragraph of this post to me give this album a sense of being part of an era. Although the songs themselves don't represent anything truly new with regards to Prince's catalogue, the actual way they sound on the album gives off a one-take live-recording feel that Prince has seldom captured before in one album in my opinion. I think when we all look back, this is what we'll remember about Planet Earth.

And in terms of the songs, it's 'All The Midnights In The World' that's doing it for me above all the others right now. At first, it just seemed like a light-weight quirky number, but there's something about it that just gets under the skin and stays there. And the more you listen to it, the more you pick up on the subtle parts that aren't immediately apparent.
'Future Baby Mama' is probably the one that's doing it the least for me. Even though I do like it, it's just that the rest of the album is more enjoyable for me right now and FBM sounds the most generic of the set.

This album is Prince being melodic and singalong with a hint of each of his known genres thrown in for good measure.

Short but very sweet and in time, I definitely think it'll be looked upon as the best of the Musicology, 3121 and Planet Earth trilogy.



I disagree on every point.

Sorry, but a review like that is dilusion. There is only one word for PE when compared to what Prince is capable of: POINTLESS.

I doubt I will give it many more times airplay. I clocked it at first listen. there's nothing to explore. Same as musicology, same as 3121.

Best albums since his NPG days were TRC and Expectation. Thats it. Those are albums that required exploring. How he could go from that to this, and you lot lovin' it I'll never know. PE is boring. And its not pop. Try even Buble's "its time" album. Jazz standards maybe, but what a singer, what superb world class production. THAT is pop. THAT gets repeat on my player. PE is just lame. The title track has its moments, then thats it. A snooze fest by most pop standards. Only the most hardcore of fans will like it, and thats a small amount. Have you actually compared this to mainstream stuff? Nothing like it mate.

PE is a whole load of fuss about nothing. If you like it, cool. But I will pass on this one. Anbother one to add to my dusty collection of recent prince albums.

I think 319 (the song) has more energy, soul, passion, class, uniqueness, raunch and funk than the PE album put together!!

Nuff proven. Nuff said.


Reading this topic the first time and I don't need to look any further: your post saves me a lot of thinking/typing and not out of lazyness:

I agree 100%!! (there must be more out there he tink the same, surprisingly)
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Reply #269 posted 07/20/07 4:45am

Haystack

PurpleHouse said:

Sorry, but a review like that is dilusion.



lol @ ‘delusion’ (correct spelling)

You seriously dismiss other people’s views and opinions on this CD by using the word ‘delusion’ instead of just accepting them?
You sound like you’re finding it enormously upsetting that there are people out there who are actually enjoying this album.

Hard luck! smile

I’ll think of your anguish next time I give the CD a spin.
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