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Reply #270 posted 07/20/07 7:50am

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PurpleHouse said:

utter crap
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Reply #271 posted 07/20/07 8:50am

blackbob

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its the best prince album of the 00s so far for me...if people cant hear the quality of some of the songs on this album then i dont think there is much hope for them as fans ...he will no doubt release something completely uncommercial and more interesting for your prince musos on here once he gets fed up with the media spotlight again and he gets itchy to do something musicially left field but i find something interesting in everything he does....its not always great but he is never boring to me...
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Reply #272 posted 07/20/07 9:01am

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I have two spare copies of Planet Earth, free for any non-UK orgers who don't have it yet. Orgnote me if interested!
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Reply #273 posted 07/20/07 10:26am

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Strange, it took me absolute ages to listen to this. Had it for a almost a week and today was first time. Odd 'cause there was a time when I would have run a country mile in stilettos at great speed to listen to anything new from P.

Anyways, LOVE IT!

But, I do think that one of the reasons why people haven't always been blown away totally by PE is that, in my humble opinion, P has had such a dramatic influence on music as a whole. At his peak, you just EXPECTED him to come up with something TOTALLY new and different that would blow your mind. He has us so spoiled for that innovative, heart thumping, breath taking melody. His lyrics were pure poetry. He had the X-factor and you know it!

Now, don't get me wrong. I still think he is talented beyond talented. You just don't 'loose' talent like that. But I am a believer in inspiration and timing. Why does a 50 year old book suddenly become popular when it had no impact when it was first published? (just an example, for lack of a better one at the moment wink). But you know what I mean?

Still, great effort. Great songs. Memorable tunes.It's a different day. Life has changed. The world has changed. Music has changed. We have changed. (Or have we, because I think sometimes I'm expecting what I used to get from him way back then...that knock-out factor). Which is really unfair and unrealistic. This is P TODAY. This is his music TODAY. And I like it.
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Reply #274 posted 07/20/07 10:29am

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blue22 said:

Strange, it took me absolute ages to listen to this. Had it for a almost a week and today was first time. Odd 'cause there was a time when I would have run a country mile in stilettos at great speed to listen to anything new from P.

Anyways, LOVE IT!

But, I do think that one of the reasons why people haven't always been blown away totally by PE is that, in my humble opinion, P has had such a dramatic influence on music as a whole. At his peak, you just EXPECTED him to come up with something TOTALLY new and different that would blow your mind. He has us so spoiled for that innovative, heart thumping, breath taking melody. His lyrics were pure poetry. He had the X-factor and you know it!

Now, don't get me wrong. I still think he is talented beyond talented. You just don't 'loose' talent like that. But I am a believer in inspiration and timing. Why does a 50 year old book suddenly become popular when it had no impact when it was first published? (just an example, for lack of a better one at the moment wink). But you know what I mean?

Still, great effort. Great songs. Memorable tunes.It's a different day. Life has changed. The world has changed. Music has changed. We have changed. (Or have we, because I think sometimes I'm expecting what I used to get from him way back then...that knock-out factor). Which is really unfair and unrealistic. This is P TODAY. This is his music TODAY. And I like it.


Thank you. What a lovely, balanced perspective. I started to write a post like this but I couldn't quite phrase it right. There are so few artists that had the groundbreaking (yet popular) 10 year run that P had. I'm happy to have him now, 20 years later, making albums that are merely excellent. thumbs up!
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Reply #275 posted 07/20/07 10:42am

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blue22 said:

It's a different day. Life has changed. The world has changed. Music has changed. We have changed. This is P TODAY. This is his music TODAY. And I like it.

Very well put. thumbs up! thumbs up!
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Reply #276 posted 07/20/07 3:13pm

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I'm late as a period on this thread...just like some, I'm just getting around to listen to the entire CD...

WTF is wrong with some folks??? This is just as good as any other Prince CD with the exception of the truly exceptional ones ie Dirty Mind, 1999, PR, SOTT, Parade, The Black Album, Lovesexy, prince, The Gold Experience and The Rainbow Children...get my point??? Don't hate on this effort just because it's GREAT music and NOT exceptional...

Upon first listen...I love: PE, The 1 U Wanna C, Somewhere Here On Earth, Future Baby Momma, Mr Goodnight, All The Midnights In The World, Chelsea Rogers...that's damn near the entire CD! music
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Reply #277 posted 07/20/07 11:52pm

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WTF is wrong with some folks??? This is just as good as any other Prince CD with the exception of the truly exceptional ones ie Dirty Mind, 1999, PR, SOTT, Parade, The Black Album, Lovesexy, prince, The Gold Experience and The Rainbow Children...get my point??? Don't hate on this effort just because it's GREAT music and NOT exceptional...

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lol....been asking myself the same question. This a good Prince album. Something there for all to absorb.
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Reply #278 posted 07/21/07 1:35am

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I like it very much. Except for Mr Goodnight, not gonna listen to that again.

And it was totally overpriced. I'm now convinced that they really don't want to sell any albums anymore. machinegun
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Reply #279 posted 07/21/07 3:18am

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Cheers for the kudos!

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Reply #280 posted 07/21/07 5:39am

PurpleCharm

3121 blows PE out of the water.

I love the music on PE, but the immature lyrics and Prince's vocals are preventing me from really being able to get into the cd.
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Reply #281 posted 07/21/07 7:09am

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excessex said:

Yeah...and those are Prince's supporters!
I heard a thing on Radio 1 in the UK on Sunday morning when the album came out (of the paper) and it was all these 18 year old kids who didn't really know much about Prince and their comments were pretty brutal in parts but nothing compared to those of this web-site's users.

It's ironic, again, that this album will, it seems, end up filling up holes in Planet Earth once the 'novelty-coaster' use wears off in UK households.
If the reports that prince will go off travelling for a few years are true, then well and good. I definitely think that a break from recording and writing and time spent listening to more White Stripes and less Beyonce will do him the world of good.

More than anything else, it's clear that Prince is running on empty as far as things to say goes.

I also think that the Mail on Sunday attention-seeker was a little excessive and has returned him to 'File Under Petulant Egomaniacs' in the press/public imagination.

If you're gonna play an ACE, make sure it's in the right muthafunkin' PLACE.

I've been saying for ages around here that Paul McCartney and Prince are in an unspoken (healthy) competition to get around the blocks that press and record companies have imposed. With the freebie giveaway, he did what he did with the walking-offstage at the end of the George Harrison tribute and a million times before (Slave, anybody?) which is OVER-STATE his case to the point where people just turn right the funk offa his channel. These are the rules you don't break.

Nobody DESERVES respect. They need to earn it and Prince's problem is that as soon as he gets a little respect (2004-6), he pumps himself up into a purple ego-monster and self-destructs.

I think we may find ourselves back in the 'Why am I so misunderstood?' phase before too long and that's when Prince is at his most pathetic.
Already, the effect of the MOS giveaway is apparent. Prince albums selling at UKP5 this week and a cheap video compilation DVD that is tailor made for the 'Poundstretcher' stores.
He has devalued himself in one fell swoop. And all to show he's got a big cock, music-business wise. Yeah...well it's what you do with it, Princey...
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As McCartney is his competition in the legacy stakes, he should also become his mentor. Love him or leave him, Macca takes his hard-earned respect and makes something of it.


BanishedBrian said:

Some people aren't really getting much enjoyment from these tracks.

[Edited 7/19/07 4:24am]
[Edited 7/19/07 4:34am]



Hahaha..that made me laugh out loud. Great post. Btw who keeps editing the posts, everytime someone doesnt like the album?
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Reply #282 posted 07/21/07 7:17am

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PurpleHouse said:

Sorry, but a review like that is dilusion.



lol @ ‘delusion’ (correct spelling)

You seriously dismiss other people’s views and opinions on this CD by using the word ‘delusion’ instead of just accepting them?
You sound like you’re finding it enormously upsetting that there are people out there who are actually enjoying this album.

Hard luck! smile

I’ll think of your anguish next time I give the CD a spin.



Yes please do think of my anguish. I feel anguish because I am disappointed with the album. I have diligently said why also. I have had plenty of orgers agree with me and my posts too, and plently of orgers are not impressed like me.


I dont like the album and I'm not going to waste my time listening to it over and over again. There is far better prince material to listen to in my spare time.

I have listened to it once, and for ME.. there is nothing much to explore.I clocked it at first listen. The songs and lyrics r pretty basic. I dont think the album sounds "organic" there is plenty of fake sounds and synth at work, not enough band for my liking.

You said the album was recorded live in a studio. I disagree. I think its pretty obvious that many tracks werent produced like that. Hence the word "delusion". Anyway, its only an opinion. Dont throw a hissy fit.
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Reply #283 posted 07/21/07 8:28am

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PurpleHouse said:

I have had plenty of orgers agree with me and my posts too, and plently of orgers are not impressed like me.

OK are you happy now? Then give it a rest OK?

PurpleHouse said:

I'm not going to waste my time listening to it over and over again.

Why not, you are wasting your time posting about it too. biggrin
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Reply #284 posted 07/21/07 9:36am

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Jochem said:

PurpleHouse said:

I have had plenty of orgers agree with me and my posts too, and plently of orgers are not impressed like me.

OK are you happy now? Then give it a rest OK?

PurpleHouse said:

I'm not going to waste my time listening to it over and over again.

Why not, you are wasting your time posting about it too. biggrin



Give what a rest? Who r u? Its a discussion and I am either answering or justifying my opinion. Its a discussion forum. Thats why I'm posting smile
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Reply #285 posted 07/21/07 12:01pm

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Doggone it this sucker is growing on me. I didn't think it could happen or was gonna happen but it is and i'm glad biggrin razz
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Reply #286 posted 07/21/07 2:44pm

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This album really has won me over, except for a few details. I can see that and why it won't work for some, but that's cool. Certainly works for me.
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Reply #287 posted 07/21/07 5:41pm

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PurpleHouse said:

Jochem said:


Why not, you are wasting your time posting about it too. biggrin



Give what a rest? Who r u? Its a discussion and I am either answering or justifying my opinion. Its a discussion forum. Thats why I'm posting smile

You've made your point three days ago.
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Reply #288 posted 07/21/07 7:09pm

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There is not a single song on this album that I skip. And yes, that includes Mr. Goodnight and All The Midnights In The World. The latter quite possibly being my favorite song of the album.

You know, there are a few of the so-called classic albums that I can't listen to all the way through.

This album is simply fantastic, and in MY opinion, may go down as one of his classics.

Sorry haters! nana
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Reply #289 posted 07/21/07 9:24pm

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Well, of course it's not to going to rival his classic work like Purple Rain, Sign O The Times, Parade, Dirty Mind, or 1999, but that doesn't mean it's going to be crap. I heard this album last week on MSN and I must say that it's truly a grower on my ears. There's nothing on here that is up to classic status or even being memorable, but it's impressive material. The production work on most of the songs is very detailed and lively. Lyrically, much of the material is weak and I was definitely disappointed by the craft and the stylistic innovation he put in some of the songs. But I believe he has made an "alright" effort with Planet Earth, he just needed a little more push and ambition. Last year's 3121 and Rainbow Children from 2001 are still my contenders for the best albums he's made this decade.
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Reply #290 posted 07/21/07 9:32pm

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smile cool alltogather cd dont care what any1 say its cool 2 hear something different 4 a change ...its all good ... biggrin
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Reply #291 posted 07/21/07 9:48pm

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Another thing that disturbs me is that so many people who recieved their free copy of PE last Sunday are selling their copy on EBAY!!! It's not that bad people.
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Reply #292 posted 07/22/07 12:30am

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Well, since I think most of the old-timers recognize me as the overtly negative guy here, and I think Planet Earth is a charming piece of work now that I've got a better copy of it too, we can deem it official: Planet Earth is a good record.
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Reply #293 posted 07/22/07 4:59am

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Is this just me, or does this album sound like Songs that didn't cut it on "Musicology" and "3121" ??

Honstely his worse album in years:

Planet Earth : Best title track he has done since Sign O the times

Gutiar : Okay...

Here on earth : My second Fav

The 1 I wanna C : Rubbish, so bad

FBM: great!!!!!

Mr.goodnight : Great!!!!!

all the midnights ~: so bad

CR: best song on the album, and best he has done in years!

the other two were shit too

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Reply #294 posted 07/22/07 5:24am

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Planet Earth: Interesting opener. Love piano opening, ok lyrics, I like how it seems to be bit too slow. The bridge is nice (don't know Barry Manilow), the guitar solo and ending rocks, great use of the wahwah pedal. 8/10

Guitar: Catchy, nice. Very simple, though. Fades out when it gets interesting. 6.5/10

SHOE: Amazing vocals, good lyrics. Even the "in this digital age" line works for me. Could use a little more movement in the music. The brass is beautiful. 7.5/10

T1UWC: I love this. I don't care if it's simple, I don't mind the lyrics being simple and immature, it makes me smile. Really fun song. Great melodies, vocals, bass. 8/10 maybe 8.5/10

Future Baby Mama: Love the linn, again cool melodies and fantastic vocals. Could have done without the talking. This is also one of the songs that I have some problems with lyrically - I don't mind the title, because I don't have clue if this is a "ghetto" term or who uses it. But what he's saying is kidn of awkward, because he's basically accusing his past lovers of not being good enough. Yeah, well, do you got what it takes to be a future papa? Musically 7/10, lyrically 4/10

Mr. Goodnight: Ugh. I guess it has a nice chorus, but besides that. Nothing happening here and this is the second song that I find awful lyrically (or rather, it's just nothing that appeals to me). Don't want to hear about all the elitist things he can do to his girl, the places, the limos... 4/10

All the midnights in the world: The beginning is kind of clumsy IMO, but then it it really nice. I can see why some hate this, I think it's nice. Yes, nice. 6.5 or 7/10

Chelsea Rodgers: Could have done without one or two lyrics here, but other than that I cannot really find fault with it. So lively and upbeat. Great brass and I love the vocal arrangement. Really imaginative IMO, interesting layering of voices, effects and stuff. 8.5/10

Lion of Judah: Favorite at the moment. I don't see how this supposedly sounds like so many other Prince songs, because to me it definitely doesn't. Love this
sense of vulnerability and self-doubt here, interesting vocals arrangement. Great guitar at the end too and the most interesting lyrics he's done in years and years. Strange to have this on the same album as Mr. Poonight. Love this one, propable classic to me. 9.5/10

Resolution: Yes, overtly simple lyrics, but what do you expect? I think this is musically interesting, not as simple as it makes itself seem, IMO. Love the vocals by the girls and the melodies. I love it that closes the album on such a somber note. 7.5/10

Very good album to me. Way ahead of Musicology and most of 3121, IMO.
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Reply #295 posted 07/22/07 5:27am

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andykeen said:[quote]Is this just me, or does this album sound like Songs that didn't cut it on "Musicology" and "3121" ??

No, you are not the only one, there are other people who feel this way.

Obviously, you people are wrong.

This album is far superior to those two from start to finish.
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Reply #296 posted 07/22/07 5:28am

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Accujack said:[quote]

andykeen said:

Is this just me, or does this album sound like Songs that didn't cut it on "Musicology" and "3121" ??

No, you are not the only one, there are other people who feel this way.

Obviously, you people are wrong.

This album is far superior to those two from start to finish.




Okay Then.....

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Reply #297 posted 07/22/07 7:57am

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i'd give this album 5 max outa..... 10 . cool
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Reply #298 posted 07/22/07 10:34am

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Crap. Immature. Judging by this CD, to me he's lost the magic touch. Sorry but can't find anything good about it.
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Reply #299 posted 07/22/07 10:58am

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I don't understand why he doesn't release the songs that he puts on the back burner. I'm not talking about the old stuff. I mean FEEL GOOD, FEEL BETTER, FEEL WONDERFUL was awesome. Where the hell did that song go. GLASS CUTTER was also a great song, IMO.

It's like he's saying "I'm going to keep the really good songs for myself."

What I'm hoping is that he's saying "I'm going to keep the good songs for my true fans. They'll get a hold of them anyways."


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