herbthe4 said:

It is a fucking mystery, Herb... the little fucker always said how the music is free, etc. and he won't friggin' release ANYTHING at all. What in the world is up with that loser?

Ordinarily, I do not like the idea of illegally sharing music on the internet, but in Prince's case I am all for it... share away.

hes sitting on those god damn songs like a goose on egg yo

release iiittt

release it

Shausler, but the songs are about sex and have cursing remember..lol

BlaqueKnight said:

While I agree, I also have to say that it's Prince right to explore the boundaries of the law. In fact, I think it could benefit the fans depending on the court's ruling.

There should be clear lines to what is and what is not accepted. Interpretation of the law greatly depends on the times we live in as well, so while m's case doesn't look too good right now, a similar case might get a different ruling in the future.

Unfortunately I don't see anyone getting away with sharing music in any form if the artists doesn't allow or condone it.



I believe you can take them to court, however, enforcement could be a problem. Anyway, Prince is going after bootleg companies as well. Expect to hear more about that in the future.
[This message was edited Sat Sep 28 7:47:48 PDT 2002 by joeycoco]

SexualSuicide said:

I agree with u that suing his fans is 2 much. Hes lost some of 'em 4 this reason and that isnt advantageous 4 him. Therefore i wonder why there r so much bootlegs live around. Prince cant not notice it...

2freaky4church1 said:

pees on freaky's head

2freaky4church1 said:

oh yea


how silly of me

deepabove said:

I'm just speaking for myself here. I'm one of the people who has said something similar to that. It's not because I want anyone get into trouble over something which I believe to be harmless in general, but it's because that's something that would make more sense.



Perhaps, though there are some artists who allow recording for non commercial use. There are also artists who really don't care too much about it. I do understand why Prince is worried, I would be worried too if decreasing sales figures would effect my wallet directly. However, things aren't always the way the seem.



No, I don't get the picture. One, people buying bootlegs do that because they love the music. Reporting the bootleggers would result in less unreleased music. Now that wouldn't be smart from a music lover's point of view, would it?

Two, are you trying to say that the "small fries" are considerably less threatening to Prince than the bootleg companies? If so, I doubt Prince feels the same about it. If not, he wouldn't even go after the small fries.

And lastly, anyone with some interesting, unreleased music and a computer with cd-burner can sell bootlegs. Put a name on it and some artwork et voila, you got a new bootleg company which wouldn't be considered less dangerous than one that presses CD's. All of a sudden, due to the lack of big fish, the small fish have become relatively big fish and the whole process will start all over again. Most companies don't appear overnight.



The point is to provide the material in unrivaled quality, not to mention that there's always something different, content wise, compared ot the bootleg releases. Bootlegs did not stop people from still buying The Vault.



No and I don't expect Prince to ever get it right either. Prince should watch bootleg companies and learn from them. There's no way they can ever compete with an official release and there's no serious fan who would ever settle for a bootleg release when they can easily get their hands on an official release which would be so much better in many ways.

Would you buy a lousy 5th generation VHS copy of your favorite movie if you can go to the store and pay less for an official DVD version? No, ofcourse not. But why does Prince assume that bootleg releases would harm sales? But let's assume he's right, wouldn't that mean that M's site was actually a threat to bootleg sale? So rather than suing him, shouldn't Prince be thankful?
[This message was edited Sat Sep 28 11:32:26 PDT 2002 by joeycoco]

deepabove said:

Please answer this question honestly, as if you are aware, lying about things like this is source for "entrapment".

Do you work for Prince or any anyone affiliated with him, including any type of legal representation? It sure sounds like you do. Especially considering you registered here on Prince.Org the same time certain people with "Yahoo" email addresses started posting to the newsgroups asking where to buy bootlegs.

joeycoco said:[quote]

BlaqueKnight said:

I can't wait to hear more about what Prince is doing about
bootlegging companies. That's what I've found to be confusing,
if he was going after them and how.

I haven't purchased any bootlegs, but I have downloaded them
and shared (never charged) them. I have also bought Prince CDs as gifts to other people.

I feel Prince has the right to sue over his works (including
the FreeMyHeart site), but I think it's ridiculous to go after fansites that have pics and images.

It would be nice if Prince could adjust his views on file-sharing somewhat ala Grateful Dead and Foo Fighters
(taping shows for personal use), but I don't see that happening unfortunately. I've never brought a camcorder or
tape recorder to a concert, but if Prince would allow it by having a fan sign a release to the effect that it would not be sold and 2 copies be made--one for the fan and one left w/Prince that could certainly satisfy his need
to control everything. Anyone who records without signing
beforehand could have their tape and equipment removed. The
people who bootleg for profit would find it harder to do so,
and the fans could be happy w/o worrying about being sued. The fan recordings could also be used to be released by Prince--thus the fan gets to contribute to making a release.
It could be a win/win situation. Does this sound crazy? Opinions please.
[This message was edited Sat Sep 28 10:43:56 PDT 2002 by Housequake2K2]

LadyCabDriver said:

It really is that simple. Matt making those songs available, but DAMN I wish he'd tucked his tail & scurried like a bitch when he was initially threatened...

CalhounSq said:

but i'm not LadyCabDriver.

suomynona said:

...but you ARE going to court, no?

Matt

I think you are ALL right!

I've never bought illegal material, I have downloaded it.'

Bottom-line: Abide by the law! (first)

If Prince asked me not to do something that was LEGAL, and it was something for my benefit, I would still do it (lookin' out for # 1 )

but the case is not as such..

suomynona said:

whatever. I'm not the one who's going to court because his dumbass thought he was a fucking hero.

prince
how can someone be so incredibly stupid?
prince you're fucking ruining the sorry fucking pieces of you rep as a rebellious and visionary fucking artist. so fuck you and have a good time at fucking bible study. we're fucking bored with your crap.

jalokin said:

WELL SAID

Supernova said:

jalokin said:

Who is WE??? Speak for yourself & put that somewhere useful...