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Post From Okayplayer that sums up Prince hate on that board I got this from Okayplayer.com. because the poster said what I have been thinking for sometime about some of the Prince Haters on Okayplayer.com.
Actually in the music community I think what Murph71 is saying applies as well. You don't have to like P's music but, he really brings out the hatered in some people for the most insane reasons. murph71 Member since Sep 15th 2005 1172 posts Tue Jul-10-07 09:38 AM 69. "RE: more controversy" In response to Reply # 67 Tue Jul-10-07 09:38 AM by murph71 >A new Prince album a new controversy. So everything stays the >same in the prince world lol. I haven't heard the new album >(and don't plan on listening to a bootleg) but I have heard >enough of it to know I will enjoy it. I might not view it as a >masterpiece but I'm sure I won't view it like the sky is >falling either. > >Unlike some I do like almost everything Prince has produced. >And I don't feel bad about that (I feel fotunate). Too many of >Prince's fans (see Oldpro or gumdrops) are pretty much >one-trick ponies who are expecting prince to conform to >whatever their favorite prince style is. And when he doesn't >then he is the worst musician ever according to them. Some of >us are lucky to be able to locate the "genuis" of Prince in >all his work (yes even the rap). His genuis is not limited to >a sound. > >A lot of the disrespect Prince recieves is really just >jealously. People mad because he has such dedicated fans. Mad >because they don't get the music. Mad that he is is infinitely >(even now) more talented then anybody hip-hop will ever >produce. Mad that he doesn't adhere to the percieved >contrictions of masculinity. Mad that he can flame and pimp at >the same time. Mad that on a hip-hop site he got more fans >than the rappers. Mad that he can rap and critique rap at the >same time. Mad that when he raps its still more musical then >99% of the rap that is created. > >Even some of the folks who supposedly love him can help but >fall into the diss trap. There is nothing cool about refering >to Prince as the "midget". I'm sure he wouldn't find it >"cute". Well, I agree with most of everything you said except the whole hip hop thing, but that's just me... As for the Midget reference, I'm sure the homie Prince is not crying about it... Murph [Edited 7/10/07 18:52pm] | |
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Prince isn't immune to emotional pain, but he has to have some of the thickest skin of any human being on this planet... He knows what people say about him positive and otherwise but he is focused because he believes in what he does.. If only the rest of us could get to that point.. Everybody isn't gonna like everything thats just the way it goes. I am confident in my decision to continue to support P and thats all that really matters to me.  | |
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adorable2 said: I am confident in my decision to continue to support P and thats all that really matters to me.
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I have been connected to the internet since 1996 and I am truly amazed at the reactions that Prince's albums seem to have. Every album release, EVERY album release since I have been on the world wide web has the same reaction.
"Prince's music seems forced." "Prince has forgot how to write a good hook." "Prince needs _____ to produce his albums." "Prince needs to edit his songs better." "Prince needs to get Wendy and Lisa back." Then when the new album gets released it is a flame war between those who like the album and the ones that don't like the album. Last thing that happens is 3 years after the album is released it becomes a neo classic. (TRC,COME,and TGE) |
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Prince fans are starting to scare me.
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For starters guys, that post which is attributed to me, Murph, is really from Tricky99...I certainly agree with a lot of things that was said up top, but the bit about Prince being able to out spit hip hop artists is not one of them...LOL
But back to my point: You have to understand something about Okayplayer...Most of the heads that belong to that site are Prince fans...That's just the truth of the matter, (Everyone knows?uestlove himself is a huge Prince follower...) But as I've said a million times on that site, most of the true hate (because I don't call heartfelt criticism of his Prince's work"hate") comes from two camps: 1) People who are stuck in Prince's past '80s work and can't take anything as is or 2) folks reacting to the overwhelming praise Prince gets on Okayplayer...Now I find this rationale a bit weak-minded, but that's just me...It is what it is... [Edited 7/10/07 20:15pm] | |
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laurarichardson said: I got this from Okayplayer.com. because the poster said what I have been thinking for sometime about some of the Prince Haters on Okayplayer.com.
Actually in the music community I think what Murph71 is saying applies as well. You don't have to like P's music but, he really brings out the hatered in some people for the most insane reasons. murph71 Member since Sep 15th 2005 1172 posts Tue Jul-10-07 09:38 AM 69. "RE: more controversy" In response to Reply # 67 Tue Jul-10-07 09:38 AM by murph71 >A new Prince album a new controversy. So everything stays the >same in the prince world lol. I haven't heard the new album >(and don't plan on listening to a bootleg) but I have heard >enough of it to know I will enjoy it. I might not view it as a >masterpiece but I'm sure I won't view it like the sky is >falling either. > >Unlike some I do like almost everything Prince has produced. >And I don't feel bad about that (I feel fotunate). Too many of >Prince's fans (see Oldpro or gumdrops) are pretty much >one-trick ponies who are expecting prince to conform to >whatever their favorite prince style is. And when he doesn't >then he is the worst musician ever according to them. Some of >us are lucky to be able to locate the "genuis" of Prince in >all his work (yes even the rap). His genuis is not limited to >a sound. > >A lot of the disrespect Prince recieves is really just >jealously. People mad because he has such dedicated fans. Mad >because they don't get the music. Mad that he is is infinitely >(even now) more talented then anybody hip-hop will ever >produce. Mad that he doesn't adhere to the percieved >contrictions of masculinity. Mad that he can flame and pimp at >the same time. Mad that on a hip-hop site he got more fans >than the rappers. Mad that he can rap and critique rap at the >same time. Mad that when he raps its still more musical then >99% of the rap that is created. > >Even some of the folks who supposedly love him can help but >fall into the diss trap. There is nothing cool about refering >to Prince as the "midget". I'm sure he wouldn't find it >"cute". Well, I agree with most of everything you said except the whole hip hop thing, but that's just me... As for the Midget reference, I'm sure the homie Prince is not crying about it... Murph [Edited 7/10/07 18:52pm] agreed. **NPGMC refugee** | |
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 @ all the 'Mad' statements ... | |
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emesem said: Prince fans are starting to scare me.
Starting? As much as I was happy to see the love and support for my boy in Minneapolis this weekend, I have to admit that between some of those fans and this site some psychological help is definitely needed.  perfection is a fallacy of the imagination... | |
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Okayplayer is an openly gay hip hop site, and that guy sounds like he have a big man crush on Prince. It's funny that people said hip hop would not embarce gays, but if you visit Okayplayer you will see that it is the site for gay hip hop and music discussion.
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Alamine said: Okayplayer is an openly gay hip hop site, and that guy sounds like he have a big man crush on Prince. It's funny that people said hip hop would not embarce gays, but if you visit Okayplayer you will see that it is the site for gay hip hop and music discussion.
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Alamine said: Okayplayer is an openly gay hip hop site, and that guy sounds like he have a big man crush on Prince. It's funny that people said hip hop would not embarce gays, but if you visit Okayplayer you will see that it is the site for gay hip hop and music discussion.
Where do you people come from? [Edited 7/10/07 21:57pm] [Edited 7/10/07 21:59pm]  | |
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Flowerz said: @ all the 'Mad' statements ... i agree with u.Thats a good way to deal with comments like that  [Edited 7/10/07 23:25pm] | |
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Sorry Murph. All props to Tricky 99
----- murph said: For starters guys, that post which is attributed to me, Murph, is really from Tricky99...I certainly agree with a lot of things that was said up top, but the bit about Prince being able to out spit hip hop artists is not one of them...LOL
But back to my point: You have to understand something about Okayplayer...Most of the heads that belong to that site are Prince fans...That's just the truth of the matter, (Everyone knows?uestlove himself is a huge Prince follower...) But as I've said a million times on that site, most of the true hate (because I don't call heartfelt criticism of his Prince's work"hate") comes from two camps: 1) People who are stuck in Prince's past '80s work and can't take anything as is or 2) folks reacting to the overwhelming praise Prince gets on Okayplayer...Now I find this rationale a bit weak-minded, but that's just me...It is what it is... [Edited 7/10/07 20:15pm] | |
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a lot of the animosity towards him, as suggested in the original post, is that he does not really conform (unless towards Moms and Dads ) towards the standards of many. Not black enough, not white enough, too loud, too soft, not this, not that...when in fact, he said it best:
"if u can describe it, then it ain't funky!" | |
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Its not just Prince tho,i've seen some freaky posts about Madonna etc. All the great artists have their fair share of slaters and equally...nutters LOL. | |
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Lothan said: Alamine said: Okayplayer is an openly gay hip hop site, and that guy sounds like he have a big man crush on Prince. It's funny that people said hip hop would not embarce gays, but if you visit Okayplayer you will see that it is the site for gay hip hop and music discussion.
Where do you people come from? [Edited 7/10/07 21:57pm] [Edited 7/10/07 21:59pm] Probably from Okayplayer...for some reason it seems the ppl there have gotten kinda homophobic as of late  " | |
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murph said: For starters guys, that post which is attributed to me, Murph, is really from Tricky99...I certainly agree with a lot of things that was said up top, but the bit about Prince being able to out spit hip hop artists is not one of them...LOL
But back to my point: You have to understand something about Okayplayer...Most of the heads that belong to that site are Prince fans...That's just the truth of the matter, (Everyone knows?uestlove himself is a huge Prince follower...) But as I've said a million times on that site, most of the true hate (because I don't call heartfelt criticism of his Prince's work"hate") comes from two camps: 1) People who are stuck in Prince's past '80s work and can't take anything as is or 2) folks reacting to the overwhelming praise Prince gets on Okayplayer...Now I find this rationale a bit weak-minded, but that's just me...It is what it is... [Edited 7/10/07 20:15pm] Oh no Murph I didn't say Prince could out spit most rappers. That's insane lol. I meant the construction of the songs were more musical than most rap. I enjoy Prince rapping but I would never confuse him being a rapper per se. | |
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