I'm sure this is old news for most BUT I was listing to some Jimi yesterday b/c I'm extraordinarily behind in his album stuff. & "Little Miss Lover" comes on - I actually look across the room really feeling like I was hearing the beginning of "Tick Tick Bang"

So of course I dig up the album so I can check the liner notes (b/c I rarely do unless there's something specific I wanna know about a song). & there... was... NOTHING I mean really, the only difference in the drums is the clap (or whatever it is) on the 4 in Prince's.

I just find it bizarre. It's more than similar, pretty dead on. How to the Jimi-heads feel about this?

Again, I know it's OLD - forgive me

Yeah Cal your pretty late on this. The drums are a complete rip.

And as a "Jimi-head" I don't care. It's not like Tick/Tick is considered a classic P song or anything.

yeah it's straight lifted from the jimi song

is the reason there's nothing in the liner notes just because
you didn't have to mention samples in them back before 1990??

herman recently pointed out to me that the beginning "space"
noise on the Lovesexy album is NOT prince's own creation but
in fact a sample from another artist.

i'd have to ask him who it was but he played it for me and i
was like " " wtf?

Ifsixwuz9 said:

I mean, uhh, thanks for replying?



I know I'm hella late but damn, was the internet even around when that shit came out?? Were y'all just burning up the forums w/ it as soon as forums came into being or something?

IstenSzek said:

Holy crap, I wanna know too

So that was the rule - before a certain year samples didn't have to be mentioned? That's fucked UP

Ifsixwuz9 said:

I would like to hear the first version of "Tick, Tick, BANG" as I hear it is superior.

CalhounSq said:

Look don't get salty with me because you're some 17 years late on this. And I have no idea what was going on in the cyber-world of P in 1990. I've only been here since 1994.
[Edited 7/5/07 7:22am]

CalhounSq said:

i'm not 100% sure but i've read it on here several times when sampled
stuff in his pre-90's work is discussed.

i'll get on to herman and ask him about that lovesexy sample. it's an
artwork kind of soundscape that he sampled it from.

my guess is it's probably something that ingrid chavez was into since
he got her to speak over it as an introduction to the album plus that
original soundscape is just so bizar i don't think prince would have
heard it anywhere ever without being introduced to it by someone else

Ifsixwuz9 said:

SHUT UP!!

found it.

it's from a sound collage by Delia Derbyshire:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...Derbyshire



here's a link to one of the original org threads where it's
discussed (amongst other things lovesexy, lol)

http://www.prince.org/msg...mp=20&pg=1

emilio319 said:

I'm not saying it's a sample BUT if it's identical it seems that some mention of Jimi was in order. I mean, how do they do that in court - if you don't use that persons recording but you recreate it yourself & it's identical... isn't credit still due?

Can a drum pattern be copyrighted??

Damn...where MY mind is truly blown is that u, Cal, even LISTENED to Hendrix. U never struck me as the type that would even fuck with Jimi's music.

ugh...

There was sampling going on for the beats or basslines of some songs in the early 90's for prince. Started giving credit on the symbol album.

blackguitaristz said:

That's COLD! I confess - up to now I've only had a "greatest hits" I know, I'm an awful person

I've wanted to dig into his stuff for years, just didn't have the $ to do so

CalhounSq said:

It's a direct sample of Little Miss Lover.
You can hear it in the intro from the drum beat to the guitar stab.


tA

Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431

CalhounSq said:

Nah, I'm just playing withca. Glad to see that you're listening to him!

theAudience said:

Professor tA, I think you

blackguitaristz said:

Better late than never!