dothejump said: muleFunk said: Just he needs to contract with folks that really want to promote him. The ideal situation would have been with Uptown but that bridge has been burned down. What is ideal about that? He sued Uptown in 1999. The ideal situation would have been with Uptown, BUT THAT BRIDGE HAS BEEN BURNED DOWN. Yes I know he sued Uptown in 1999. | |
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ThreadBare said: machinegun said: called prince an old geezer on the sly...
No, seriously. I hear what you're saying. But, if you contrast Prince's behavior with that of other acts (Dave Matthews Band, Pearl Jam come to mind immediately) who take the opposite approach with their fans and still command decent sales, fan loyalty and market interest, I don't see how we're left with any other conclusion but to call Prince selfish, greedy or idiotic. It's okay 2 call Prince those things but understand, he does NOT care if u choose 2 do that. It's his material, and he is doing what he wants 2 do with it. Plain and simple. | |
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Graycap23 said: ThreadBare said: No, seriously. I hear what you're saying. But, if you contrast Prince's behavior with that of other acts (Dave Matthews Band, Pearl Jam come to mind immediately) who take the opposite approach with their fans and still command decent sales, fan loyalty and market interest, I don't see how we're left with any other conclusion but to call Prince selfish, greedy or idiotic. It's okay 2 call Prince those things but understand, he does NOT care if u choose 2 do that. It's his material, and he is doing what he wants 2 do with it. Plain and simple. No, actually, Prince's lack of care concerning his fans is exactly what we're talking about... We all know whose product it is. We just wish his actions matched his declarations. When I was younger, I cared more. There are plenty other artists out there who deliver a solid bang for the buck. I just gravitate here because of my musical history with P. | |
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Well, he's doing alot of us a favor.
I mean, I used to snatch up vidoes of him any chance I got, but then I saw Gansterglam | |
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ThreadBare said: machinegun said: called prince an old geezer on the sly...
No, seriously. I hear what you're saying. But, if you contrast Prince's behavior with that of other acts (Dave Matthews Band, Pearl Jam come to mind immediately) who take the opposite approach with their fans and still command decent sales, fan loyalty and market interest, I don't see how we're left with any other conclusion but to call Prince selfish, greedy or idiotic. I certainly prefer the Pearl Jam approach!! Obviously Prince is not convinced unfortunately. But I think it's more to do with being a control freak (coupled with the associated paranoia) than anything else. Pearl Jam and Dave Matthews do things the way they do in the belief that it helps their respective future sales. If they thought it was going to hurt them I'm sure they'd change their ways. At the end of the day, once we stop respecting Prince's decisions around his own art and image and calling him selfish or greedy (somewhat nasty accusations to make purely on the basis of this issue) we actually stop respecting Prince. And you've gotta respect the guy, he's given us more material than most others have including their boots and all. Shit...did I call Prince an old geezer? I think I'll set up oldgeezer.org before Ben does | |
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ThreadBare said: Graycap23 said: It's okay 2 call Prince those things but understand, he does NOT care if u choose 2 do that. It's his material, and he is doing what he wants 2 do with it. Plain and simple. No, actually, Prince's lack of care concerning his fans is exactly what we're talking about... We all know whose product it is. We just wish his actions matched his declarations. When I was younger, I cared more. There are plenty other artists out there who deliver a solid bang for the buck. I just gravitate here because of my musical history with P. I dig.....but the tale does NOT wag the dog. | |
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I'd agree with going after fansites for showing videos IF he was offering them on his own site.
But, he's not - so instead of supporting one of his biggest fansites, he threatens them. Nice. | |
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He takes all these things away from us then hands out his new album for free!!!
I am a little confused. Hey Prince we're not doing any harm watching old video clips, just remembering good times oh mama I wish I could resist ... | |
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I haven't been a member over there for 100 years. | |
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prince likes to reinvent to a point, so maybe he is trying to erase a lot of his history so peopel concentrate on the music hes puttin gout in the present rather than the past? he muzzles old material but gives us new stuff for free! he might only want to put out there and have out there who he is in the present rather than who he was in the past..? **NPGMC refugee** | |
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g3121 said: prince likes to reinvent to a point, so maybe he is trying to erase a lot of his history so peopel concentrate on the music hes puttin gout in the present rather than the past? he muzzles old material but gives us new stuff for free! he might only want to put out there and have out there who he is in the present rather than who he was in the past..?
I am hereby reserving my right to revisit this thread and comment to this post as soon as I hear the rest of "Planet Earth"! For the record though, you can't ERASE your past, even if your name is Prince!! [Edited 7/7/07 15:58pm] | |
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muleFunk said: dothejump said: What is ideal about that? He sued Uptown in 1999. The ideal situation would have been with Uptown, BUT THAT BRIDGE HAS BEEN BURNED DOWN. Yes I know he sued Uptown in 1999. OK, then I have misunderstood your post. But what do you mean then with people who really want to promote him? (And then giving Uptown as an example) Formerly known as Parade @ HQ and formerly proud owner of www.paradetour.com | |
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Se7en said: I'd agree with going after fansites for showing videos IF he was offering them on his own site.
But, he's not - so instead of supporting one of his biggest fansites, he threatens them. Nice. Thats what I was trying to say, when I was told not to get my knickers in a twist!!! | |
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muleFunk said: I can agree with Prince with the use of his material however he should have a plan to make this stuff available to his fanbase.The perfect situation would be for an agreement with the Org. or Housequake to be used as a clearinghouse for his material.
hell, he's got his own damn website! why not there? god. they don't even have to do anything. let the public upload the stuff. "Half of what I say is meaningless; but I say it so that the other half may reach you." - Kahlil Gibran | |
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Graycap23 said: ThreadBare said: No, actually, Prince's lack of care concerning his fans is exactly what we're talking about... We all know whose product it is. We just wish his actions matched his declarations. When I was younger, I cared more. There are plenty other artists out there who deliver a solid bang for the buck. I just gravitate here because of my musical history with P. I dig.....but the tale does NOT wag the dog. Right, and the dog doesn't buy its own food... | |
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ThreadBare said: Graycap23 said: I dig.....but the tale does NOT wag the dog. Right, and the dog doesn't buy its own food... There is NOT a rich man alive that buys that logic....or should I say IL=Logic? | |
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A bad thing. Thanks to Housequake, I watched many vids from the 80s that I missed when I was a kid. Now, it's all gone. It is very sad.... | |
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ThreadBare said: Graycap23 said: I dig.....but the tale does NOT wag the dog. Right, and the dog doesn't buy its own food... lol, god thats funny, thank you. Gray cap, im sure youre a good man and all, but give it up, lol | |
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Imago said: Well, he's doing alot of us a favor.
I mean, I used to snatch up vidoes of him any chance I got, but then I saw Gansterglam | |
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Maybe he's embarrassed by some of those videos...I know I would be! Personally . I think we are all Boring with No Lives cause all we do is talk about Prince,Criticize and Gossip. I need a Horny Man is what I Need and probably so do most of yas. We are Sexually Frustrated what we R... Amen..!!! - zelaire | |
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We're talking about a guy who wears heels and once called himself a slave. Nothing Prince does suprises me anymore. Now, I just go . My author page: https://www.amazon.com/au...eretttruth | |
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SexyBeautifulOne said: It's a BAD thing!!! I understood his point when Housequake videos had to progressively download to the viewers computer but Housequake did the right thing and changed that!
Now we can't even view them at all and it sucks! Now we can only TELL people about the some of the coolest highlights of Prince's career because for the most part, we sure can't SHOW them!!! DAMN! And the messed up thing about it is all this shiznit happens when I finally become a member there! Prince u better be glad I love u so much or it would be a 4 you! surviving on the thought of loving you, it's just like the water
I ain't felt this way in years... | |
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I do miss those videos, many of which you can't find anywhere else! | |
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wlcm2thdwn said: I do miss those videos, many of which you can't find anywhere else!
yeah and they're good promotion for him prince must be the only who doesn't want people to see his videos; it makes no sense whatsoever | |
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wlcm2thdwn said: I do miss those videos, many of which you can't find anywhere else!
I miss the video forum at HQ Ohh purple joy oh purple bliss oh purple rapture! REAL MUSIC by REAL MUSICIANS - Prince "I kind of wish there was a reason for Prince to make the site crash more" ~~ Ben |
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luv4u said: wlcm2thdwn said: I do miss those videos, many of which you can't find anywhere else!
I miss the video forum at HQ Me too! | |
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Imago said: Well, he's doing alot of us a favor.
I mean, I used to snatch up vidoes of him any chance I got, but then I saw Gansterglam | |
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Prince fans (some of them anyway) are getting like old people at the bus (some of them anyway) | |
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ThreadBare said: machinegun said: called prince an old geezer on the sly...
No, seriously. I hear what you're saying. But, if you contrast Prince's behavior with that of other acts (Dave Matthews Band, Pearl Jam come to mind immediately) who take the opposite approach with their fans and still command decent sales, fan loyalty and market interest, I don't see how we're left with any other conclusion but to call Prince selfish, greedy or idiotic. Yes, he is selfish, greedy and idiotic. So selfish, greedy and idiotic that I managed to buy two concert tickets for one of his August shows at a price I wouldn't even get a Diet Coke for at a Madonna or Stones gig. So selfish, greedy and idiotic that I can decide if I want to buy his new album on Sunday with a newspaper for a price of £1.40 or if I'm patient and wait until August to pick it up for free at the concert. This little purple bastard!!! | |
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Flowerz said: Prince should put them on his 3121.site ..
[Edited 7/7/07 11:53am] the obvious thing but he won't. what helped the most about that video forum, was when he was on tv doing a per4mance in different countries, everyone that didn't live in that country, could view the per4mance. man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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