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Thread started 07/05/07 10:27pm

LoDog

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Dirty Mind is one of the greatest funk albums of all time.

The Many Facets of Roger, Mothership Connection, Word Up, There's A Riot Goin' On, Fire, The Heat Is On. What does these albums have in common? They are all considered to be some of the greatest funk albums of all time. And Dirty Mind is definitely part of that group. Dirty Mind is hardcore edge funk that wasn't heard before then and hasn't since. This album broke all the rules for Prince and music in general. A true classic! That's why Rolling Stone named it one of the 500 greatest albums of all time. I considered this the pre ATWIAD era when Prince started evolving into a great artist and composer and changing his format. Not that he's had bad albums since then, I'm not saying that, in fact some of his best work came after this period like SOTT, Lovesexy, D&P, Gold, and TRC. But that is a grown up Prince who's musical taste evolved into something greater. I'm talking about that young raw talent that was starting to get that itch when his funk was raw and new. For You, Prince, Dirty Mind, Controversy, and 1999 are all part of this raw infusion of funk and is the best of this time period. DM being the best in my opinion. If I was stranded on a desert island (Survivor) for 30 days and they said I can only take 5 funk albums with me to listen to (keep my insanity) I will bring with me:
1. Mothership Connection-Parliament
2. The Heat Is On-Isley Bros.
3. The Many Facets of Roger-Roger
4. Dirty Mind-Prince
5. Cameosis-Cameo
For those who don't agree that DM is one of the greatest funk albums of all time state your mind. For those who agree speak as well. Holla!
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Reply #1 posted 07/05/07 11:06pm

mplsmike

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'Dirty Mind is one of the greatest funk albums of all time
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I know my Funk

Parliament
Bootsy Collins
Eddie Hazel
Bernie Worrell
The Isley Bros
Cameo

They are all had Funky albums....but prince's DM.... talk to the hand De-void-of-Funk
Love Life,
Love God,
And Only Do Drugs You Need
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Reply #2 posted 07/05/07 11:07pm

Raze

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it has its funk moments, but i don't think of this as funk album. closer to punk/new wave filtered through rnb/funk.
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Reply #3 posted 07/05/07 11:09pm

mplsmike

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Head is about the only thing close..to being called funk
Love Life,
Love God,
And Only Do Drugs You Need
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Reply #4 posted 07/05/07 11:18pm

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I am not going to be the one to define what is and what is not "funk". Like George said, if you can define it, it probably ain't funky.

However, Dirty Mind is too punk to be simply funk. If your would watch footage from the Dirty Mind tour the performances would even further my point.

Bottom Line: Dirty Mind was the 1st of a new sound--it was a hybrid. It was more than just funk it was something new.
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Reply #5 posted 07/05/07 11:29pm

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I don't know where Prince - or anyone else, for that matter - gets the idea that anything on Dirty Mind was remotely like Punk music. It's R&B, pop, and a little bit of rock and roll. Not Punk.
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Reply #6 posted 07/06/07 1:40am

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Spinlight said:

I don't know where Prince - or anyone else, for that matter - gets the idea that anything on Dirty Mind was remotely like Punk music. It's R&B, pop, and a little bit of rock and roll. Not Punk.



I think if you really wanted to, you could argue that the
sound of it is a little "punk". You know, because it's so sparse and unfinished somehow.
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Reply #7 posted 07/06/07 1:55am

LilCub

Head funky but I wouldn't say that the whole album is funk - more of a rockabilly/pop/alternative album.

No matter what it's still a fantastic album that I can listen to from start to finish - so bloody well remaster and re-release it Prince so we can hear how it was meant to be!

Not sure if there are ANY Prince albums you could classify as a true funk album all the way through - maybe The Black Album?
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Reply #8 posted 07/06/07 10:57am

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skywalker said:

I am not going to be the one to define what is and what is not "funk". Like George said, if you can define it, it probably ain't funky.

However, Dirty Mind is too punk to be simply funk. If your would watch footage from the Dirty Mind tour the performances would even further my point.

Bottom Line: Dirty Mind was the 1st of a new sound--it was a hybrid. It was more than just funk it was something new.



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Always remember Prince brought balance to the Funk.
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Reply #9 posted 07/06/07 12:40pm

Riverpoet31

I dont see it as a funk album also.

I mean there are some funky tracks on it (Head and Party Up come to mind), but theres also pop, R&B and rock on it.

While i agree its not 'Punk' stylewise, it shows a punky attitude in the way the sound is so sparse. In fact these are unpolished demo's and his managers convinced him to release them this way. If they hadn't done that maybe Dirty Mind had ultimately sounded more as the Prince album.

Its also a bit 'punk' in the way that Prince is using new wave influences in his music for the first time. I tend to think that it was Dez Dickerson who did point Prince at this type of music. When you were mine reminds me of Elvis Costello and the attractions, while the title track and Uptown also show elements of new wave pop/rock.

In a way these two decisions: releasing demo's instead of polished endmaterial, mixing elements of new wave pop/rock influenced his whole career from then on. It made Prince from a remarkeble new artist into a groundbreaking one, and it also formed the foundation for the "Minneapolis sound".
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Reply #10 posted 07/06/07 1:49pm

Etorres

Punk more than Funk .....
Youth is wasted on the young .....
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Reply #11 posted 07/06/07 4:06pm

myloveis4ever

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Etorres said:

Punk more than Funk .....



the dirty mind track is not PUNK is more soul/funk.
WHEN you were mine is not punk or funk...
gotta A broken heart is not punk
head is not punk
punk is sister , party up , and maybe uptown...uptown is a mix of all shit.
yes is an PRINCE ALBUM .. You have pop, rock. funk. soul.. in the ESSENTIAL DIRTY MIND LP/CD
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Reply #12 posted 07/06/07 4:13pm

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An awesome 30 minutes and 10 seconds of tunes, but funk? There's some funk in there, but as a whole I wouldn't consider it a funk album. More new-wave than anything else. I don't even think at that point in his career Prince himself would have used "funk" to attempt to define his "sound."

When I listen to "Head" I hear funk.

When I listen to "When You Were Mine" I hear rock/pop.

With every song it's different (which makes it great), but it's so stripped down and homegrown that I couldn't classify it as a funk album.
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Reply #13 posted 07/06/07 4:26pm

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I agree biggrin
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Reply #14 posted 07/06/07 4:45pm

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I love this album myself! I gotta listen 2 it...NOW!!
"Just like the sun, the Rainbow Children rise."



"We had fun, didn't we?"
-Prince (1958-2016) 4ever in my life
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Reply #15 posted 07/06/07 4:51pm

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I'd have to stick with P-funk for pure funkiness, but I gotta give credit to Prince for making funk a bit more digestible for the masses: punk-funk, funk-pop, funk-rock, etc.
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Reply #16 posted 07/06/07 5:11pm

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calldapplwondery83 said:

Spinlight said:

I don't know where Prince - or anyone else, for that matter - gets the idea that anything on Dirty Mind was remotely like Punk music. It's R&B, pop, and a little bit of rock and roll. Not Punk.



I think if you really wanted to, you could argue that the
sound of it is a little "punk". You know, because it's so sparse and unfinished somehow.


I think Dirty Mind is very much punk influenced, but not so much in its sound as in its attitude.

And isn't punk (at its core) an expression of an attitude? I mean, music can have a punk sound, but if ain't got the attitude, it ain't really punk, now is it?

Dirty Mind was Prince's "I'm gonna use the F word; I'm gonna sing about blow jobs and cumming on wedding gowns; I'm gonna walk around in a g-string and raincoat and not give a shit what y'all think" attitude come to life.

And the "fight your own damn war" chant at the end of "Partyup" is very Punk as well, I think.
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