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Little Red corvette on ULTIMATE sounds superior The remastering really cleaned up the distortion considerably. I wasn't happy with the remastering overall but the tracks from 1999 are way better especially the dance mix.
Imagine the full 1999 album remastered where we can actually hear automatic | |
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I would love to hear a remaster of those albums like the boots that floated around a few years back of SOTT and so forth. | |
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The distortion is gone, but I can hear the compression - big time Don't hate me 'cause I'm NOT beautiful | |
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Imago said: I would love to hear a remaster of those albums like the boots that floated around a few years back of SOTT and so forth.
Was the whole of Sign O The Times remastered? Damn i only got 9 of the tracks | |
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I'm not as happy with Ultimate as I thought I would be | |
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FlamingRaindrop said: Imago said: I would love to hear a remaster of those albums like the boots that floated around a few years back of SOTT and so forth.
Was the whole of Sign O The Times remastered? Damn i only got 9 of the tracks How can it be remastered without the tapes? | |
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paisley2002 said: The distortion is gone, but I can hear the compression - big time
yeah i agree they squashed it too much | |
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icke4presidant said: FlamingRaindrop said: Was the whole of Sign O The Times remastered? Damn i only got 9 of the tracks How can it be remastered without the tapes? Dunno, 9 of the tracks floated my way and the quality was way superior to the album cd version - they were comparable to Ultimate quality - pity i couldn't get the other 7 | |
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FlamingRaindrop said: icke4presidant said: How can it be remastered without the tapes? Dunno, 9 of the tracks floated my way and the quality was way superior to the album cd version - they were comparable to Ultimate quality - pity i couldn't get the other 7 I'm sure it was just from a fan release. No hard feelings. | |
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FlamingRaindrop said: Imago said: I would love to hear a remaster of those albums like the boots that floated around a few years back of SOTT and so forth.
Was the whole of Sign O The Times remastered? Damn i only got 9 of the tracks They weren't remastered. That was simply a fan messing with the volume and eq. . | |
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SquirrelMeat said: FlamingRaindrop said: Was the whole of Sign O The Times remastered? Damn i only got 9 of the tracks They weren't remastered. That was simply a fan messing with the volume and eq. Yes becuase prince has the master tapes and WB have the copies now if copies were made from them copies a fan could remaster them but of course that would be illegal | |
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icke4presidant said: The remastering really cleaned up the distortion considerably. I wasn't happy with the remastering overall but the tracks from 1999 are way better especially the dance mix.
Imagine the full 1999 album remastered where we can actually hear automatic | |
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Is it true that Ultimate is not remastered? | |
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MikeMatronik said: Is it true that Ultimate is not remastered?
Are you not following? The compilation is remastered. It's far more compressed and MUCH louder in some cases | |
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MikeMatronik said: Is it true that Ultimate is not remastered?
Ultimate WAS remastered (in the true sense of the word... not in the way that a lot of fans seem to think it means). | |
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BorisFishpaw said: MikeMatronik said: Is it true that Ultimate is not remastered?
Ultimate WAS remastered (in the true sense of the word... not in the way that a lot of fans seem to think it means). I'm confused...Can you explain that please? | |
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SquirrelMeat said: FlamingRaindrop said: Was the whole of Sign O The Times remastered? Damn i only got 9 of the tracks They weren't remastered. That was simply a fan messing with the volume and eq. Okay, cool. Far, far superior sound from those than the official cd - that's sad in many ways. How is this done? I wouldn't mind knowing so i could revamp my entire 80's prince catalog. cheers | |
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FlamingRaindrop said: SquirrelMeat said: They weren't remastered. That was simply a fan messing with the volume and eq. Okay, cool. Far, far superior sound from those than the official cd - that's sad in many ways. How is this done? I wouldn't mind knowing so i could revamp my entire 80's prince catalog. cheers Well I use a freeware software named Audacity. http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ | |
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MikeMatronik said: BorisFishpaw said: Ultimate WAS remastered (in the true sense of the word... not in the way that a lot of fans seem to think it means). I'm confused...Can you explain that please? Most preople seem to think that "Remastering" means going back to the original 24 track mastertapes and re-doing the mix from scratch. This is not true. This would be called "Remixing". "Mastering" and "Remastering" is the final phase of transfer from the completed 2-track Stereo Master to the finished product. It does NOT require access to the original 24 track tapes, only the 2 track Masters. Of course there have been several high-profile reamasters which have involved a "remix" as well, but that is not what the term "remaster" means, and it's not what happens in the vast majority of CD remasters that are released. | |
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BorisFishpaw said: MikeMatronik said: I'm confused...Can you explain that please? Most preople seem to think that "Remastering" means going back to the original 24 track mastertapes and re-doing the mix from scratch. This is not true. This would be called "Remixing". "Mastering" and "Remastering" is the final phase of transfer from the completed 2-track Stereo Master to the finished product. It does NOT require access to the original 24 track tapes, only the 2 track Masters. Of course there have been several high-profile reamasters which have involved a "remix" as well, but that is not what the term "remaster" means, and it's not what happens in the vast majority of CD remasters that are released. Yes & No, Remixing and Remastering go hand in hand these days... Because of the digital realm Remastered could also mean converting the 24 track master tapes into digital audio Remixing them and Then remastering them digitally etc... than going to a double track remastering session for the finishing touches This wasn't done with ultimate, as you said they did a remaster in the traditional sense... but its really not a remaster... they fixed up the EQs and the volumes and probably added some gates and compression to kill the distortion clinically anybody can do this with their music catalogue witha K'd version of Peak... etc I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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There is no "yes & no" on the subject.
What I stated earlier wasn't an opinion... it was a FACT. I know that Remastering and Remixing often go hand in hand, but there's still a big difference between the two. Just because something hasn't been remixed from the 24-track tapes doesn't mean that it isn't a "Remaster". If it's been remastered from the original 2-track stereo master, then it has been "Remastered"... end of argument, because that's what "remastering" means. This is the point I'm trying to get across here. This ISN'T a matter of opinion about what some people may or may not think a "remaster" involves. It's a matter of FACT. There is no "yeah, but..." on the subject. Unfortunately, there seems to be a lot of confusion in the public domain about what constitutes a "remaster" because on the whole they're comparitively new to the term. However, there is NO confusion as to it's meaning in the Music Business, and it's meaning hasn't changed due to public misconception. [Edited 6/30/07 4:39am] | |
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BorisFishpaw said: There is no "yes & no" on the subject.
What I stated earlier wasn't an opinion... it was a FACT. I know that Remastering and Remixing often go hand in hand, but there's still a big difference between the two. Just because something hasn't been remixed from the 24-track tapes doesn't mean that it isn't a "Remaster". If it's been remastered from the original 2-track stereo master, then it has been "Remastered"... end of argument, because that's what "remastering" means. This is the point I'm trying to get across here. This ISN'T a matter of opinion about what some people may or may not think a "remaster" involves. It's a matter of FACT. There is no "yeah, but..." on the subject. Unfortunately, there seems to be a lot of confusion in the public domain about what constitutes a "remaster" because on the whole they're comparitively new to the term. However, there is NO confusion as to it's meaning in the Music Business, and it's meaning hasn't changed due to public misconception. [Edited 6/30/07 4:39am] yes mixing happens BEFORE mastering; THEY ARE NOT THE SAME ULTIMATE is remastered from tape copies [Edited 6/30/07 8:14am] | |
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SquirrelMeat said: FlamingRaindrop said: Was the whole of Sign O The Times remastered? Damn i only got 9 of the tracks They weren't remastered. That was simply a fan messing with the volume and eq. not if you look at the wave files graphically! My art book: http://www.lulu.com/spotl...ecomicskid
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ufoclub said: SquirrelMeat said: They weren't remastered. That was simply a fan messing with the volume and eq. not if you look at the wave files graphically! PLEASE post the wave files | |
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icke4presidant said: ufoclub said: not if you look at the wave files graphically! PLEASE post the wave files for ultimate or for the fan remastering? With the fan remastering, I meant that it was much more than just EQ and volume tweaking that was done. If it's the one I'm thinking of, there was a reference sound to try to reach, there was two passes of multiband compression, and there was testing in different environments like the home and the car. Here's the Ultimate comparison: My art book: http://www.lulu.com/spotl...ecomicskid
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ufoclub said: icke4presidant said: PLEASE post the wave files for ultimate or for the fan remastering? With the fan remastering, I meant that it was much more than just EQ and volume tweaking that was done. If it's the one I'm thinking of, there was a reference sound to try to reach, there was two passes of multiband compression, and there was testing in different environments like the home and the car. Here's the Ultimate comparison: what song is that? | |
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icke4presidant said: ufoclub said: for ultimate or for the fan remastering? With the fan remastering, I meant that it was much more than just EQ and volume tweaking that was done. If it's the one I'm thinking of, there was a reference sound to try to reach, there was two passes of multiband compression, and there was testing in different environments like the home and the car. Here's the Ultimate comparison: what song is that? 1999 My art book: http://www.lulu.com/spotl...ecomicskid
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ufoclub said: icke4presidant said: what song is that? 1999 what do you think of the sound? too compressed or o.k? overall they are easily better then the orignals i think. | |
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icke4presidant said: ufoclub said: 1999 what do you think of the sound? too compressed or o.k? overall they are easily better then the orignals i think. I think it sounds okay. I think it was a relatively conservative remastering. My art book: http://www.lulu.com/spotl...ecomicskid
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ufoclub said: icke4presidant said: what do you think of the sound? too compressed or o.k? overall they are easily better then the orignals i think. I think it sounds okay. I think it was a relatively conservative remastering. what aabout let's work? That sounds really squashed and loud | |
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