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Thread started 06/26/07 3:54pm

BobGeorge909

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Prince and cursing...

I don't know why he just doesn't go ahead and curse...his lyrics have every intention of it...but he obviously censors himself. The point of not cursing is to find an alternate and hopefully unoffensive means of expressing that view or thought...he doesn't do that...he just omit's the specific word(i.e: "Hell" in Guitar) or changes it with an obvious substitute(i.e:"Duck" in 1+1+1=3)...just sounds plain stupid and unimmaginitive...



and please, no one knock me on any punctuation error's...we're all better than that.
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Reply #1 posted 06/26/07 3:56pm

Pochacco

Its his choice , silly , but his choice
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Reply #2 posted 06/26/07 5:07pm

christos7

It's ok 2 have a dirty mind...just not 2 outwardly xpress it. confused lol
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Reply #3 posted 06/26/07 5:15pm

Haystack

BobGeorge909 said:

I don't know why he just doesn't go ahead and curse...his lyrics have every intention of it...but he obviously censors himself. The point of not cursing is to find an alternate and hopefully unoffensive means of expressing that view or thought...he doesn't do that...he just omit's the specific word(i.e: "Hell" in Guitar) or changes it with an obvious substitute(i.e:"Duck" in 1+1+1=3)...just sounds plain stupid and unimmaginitive...


Thank goodness somebody else has observed this. What's the point of trying to avoid cursing, etc. when your lyrics encourage everybody, including yourself, to say the words in their mind anyway?

When he says 'What the duck', it's obvious in his mind and everybody else's that he means 'What the fuck', so all he's doing, as christos7 has said, is not outwardly expressing the word. Ultimately, it's only words and they ain't gonna kill anybody as they stand.

And I've quoted him before but Stephen Fry, well known fantastic chap and best dinner guest ever, once said how amazing it is that you can use the words 'torture' and 'death' in a conversation and it's okay, but use the word 'fuck' - the reason why we're all here, and everybody thinks it's the worst thing you could possibly say.
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Reply #4 posted 06/26/07 5:18pm

christos7

Haystack said:

so all he's doing, as christos7 has said, is not outwardly expressing the word.



Like I also said on another thread, it's just a matter of convenience. nod
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Reply #5 posted 06/26/07 7:03pm

wlcm2thdwn

I think it sounds better and the kids can sing it now.
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Reply #6 posted 06/26/07 10:24pm

VonMarie

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Really...what's the big deal. If he says "duck" and you want to sing "fuck" instead...so be it! I remember seeing his Musicology show and noticed he changed the words to Dance Music Sex Romance. The part that goes "What the hell U come here for"...he sang "Tell me what U come here for". Also, the part that goes "Everybody, get on the floor...work your body like a whore"...he sang "Everybody, get on the floor...work your body like U want some more". My sister and I noticed changes on other songs also, but it was no big deal. Just enjoy the music and sing your own lyrics...whatever makes U happy wink
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Reply #7 posted 06/26/07 11:40pm

Negritaluvyu

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wlcm2thdwn said:

I think it sounds better and the kids can sing it now.


true ; he has alot of younger fans now , dont want them growing up with a dirty mind as if my dirty mind hasnt been blamed on him enough
Your lips would make a lollipop too happy.
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Reply #8 posted 06/27/07 12:04am

Raze

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Negritaluvyu said:

wlcm2thdwn said:

I think it sounds better and the kids can sing it now.


true ; he has alot of younger fans now , dont want them growing up with a dirty mind as if my dirty mind hasnt been blamed on him enough




oh come on. he doesn't have "a lot of younger fans" now compared to 1982-1992 when he was cursing up a storm.
"Half of what I say is meaningless; but I say it so that the other half may reach you." - Kahlil Gibran
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Reply #9 posted 06/27/07 12:27am

jstar69

Raze said:

Negritaluvyu said:



true ; he has alot of younger fans now , dont want them growing up with a dirty mind as if my dirty mind hasnt been blamed on him enough




oh come on. he doesn't have "a lot of younger fans" now compared to 1982-1992 when he was cursing up a storm.


Very true...im sure his fan base back in the 80's also had the same ratio of young fans as he has today - to me its stoopid - swearing has its place in the English language, its when its abused and every second word used is when it becomes unnecessary.
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Reply #10 posted 06/27/07 1:34am

Negritaluvyu

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my sarcasm has been failed to be noticed.
Your lips would make a lollipop too happy.
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Reply #11 posted 06/27/07 1:41am

FarrahMoan

Negritaluvyu said:

my sarcasm has been failed to be noticed.

Oh, no, honay! Jus' like ah tolju in dat otha thread. Ah gotchu! ky whip cool
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Reply #12 posted 06/27/07 2:01am

VonMarie

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FarrahMoan said:

Negritaluvyu said:

my sarcasm has been failed to be noticed.

Oh, no, honay! Jus' like ah tolju in dat otha thread. Ah gotchu! ky whip cool

:falloff:Uso craaaazi
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Reply #13 posted 06/27/07 2:24am

bonedaddy

VonMarie said:

Really...what's the big deal. If he says "duck" and you want to sing "fuck" instead...so be it! I remember seeing his Musicology show and noticed he changed the words to Dance Music Sex Romance. The part that goes "What the hell U come here for"...he sang "Tell me what U come here for". Also, the part that goes "Everybody, get on the floor...work your body like a whore"...he sang "Everybody, get on the floor...work your body like U want some more". My sister and I noticed changes on other songs also, but it was no big deal. Just enjoy the music and sing your own lyrics...whatever makes U happy wink


OK, so what's the excuse with brand new music, where he clearly misses out the 'shit' or the 'fuck' when clearly it fits. (3121, TRC)??
He aint just making an old song 'nicer' he's still suggesting the words, but not saying them. What's the point?? it just highlights these words.
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Reply #14 posted 06/27/07 2:47am

wlcm2thdwn

Raze said:

Negritaluvyu said:



true ; he has alot of younger fans now , dont want them growing up with a dirty mind as if my dirty mind hasnt been blamed on him enough




oh come on. he doesn't have "a lot of younger fans" now compared to 1982-1992 when he was cursing up a storm.

well anybody can sing along to music even if they're not longtime fans! I don't curse and think it's Prince's perrogative if he doesn't want to put that in HIS songs!
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Reply #15 posted 06/27/07 7:15am

BobGeorge909

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wlcm2thdwn said:

Raze said:





oh come on. he doesn't have "a lot of younger fans" now compared to 1982-1992 when he was cursing up a storm.

well anybody can sing along to music even if they're not longtime fans! I don't curse and think it's Prince's perrogative if he doesn't want to put that in HIS songs!
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I completely agree with u...but I say...if he doesn't want to curse in his music...don't suggest, set-up and do all but deliver the curse...that misses the point of not cursing, which is to find an alternate way to discuss your message....not just turn the fader knob/slide on the vox track down when the word is said...
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Reply #16 posted 06/27/07 9:00am

sexxydancer

I kinda like the clean Prince.Recently watched some old shows and the cursing seemed a bit odd! I still get the idea without the cursing. lol
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Reply #17 posted 06/27/07 9:04am

rozilla

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A while ago I read something that Maya Angelou wrote, while I can't exactly reproduce it here, it amounted to that she felt that words were things and that the words you used were kind of sent out into the universe.

For example, if a person fills his day with words of kindness towards herself and others, then there is kindness put out into the universe.
Love wins. (Seen on bumpersticker)
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