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Imago said: christos7 said: [Edited 6/24/07 20:20pm] BEST. THREAD. EVER. It Rocks Hard No Pun Intended. | |
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Greatest Prince song:
I just cant believe all the things people say -- controversy Am I black or white? am I !!!!!straight or gay!!!!! -- controversy Do I believe in god? do I believe in me? -- controversy Controversy controversy I cant understand human curiosity -- controversy Was it good for you? was I what you wanted me to be? -- controversy Do you get high? does your daddy cry? -- controversy Controversy controversy Do I believe in god? do I believe in me? Some people wanna die so they can be free (I said) life is just a game, were all just the same...do you wanna play? Controversy controversy controversy Controversy controversy controversy Our father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name Thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven Give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our trespasses As we forgive those who trespass against us Lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil For thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever and ever Controversy controversy controversy controversy Love him, love him baby Controversy controversy controversy Controversy controversy controversy Listen People call me rude, I wish we were all nude I wish there was no black and white, I wish there were no rules (repeat 3 times) Controversy controversy Do I believe in god? do I believe in me? let me tell ya... Some people wanna die so they can be free (I said) life is just a game, were all just the same...dont ya wanna play? Controversy controversy controversy controversy This was when P was in touch and had pure artistic freedom. | |
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Rockability said: Greatest Prince song:
I just cant believe all the things people say -- controversy Am I black or white? am I !!!!!straight or gay!!!!! -- controversy Do I believe in god? do I believe in me? -- controversy Controversy controversy I cant understand human curiosity -- controversy Was it good for you? was I what you wanted me to be? -- controversy Do you get high? does your daddy cry? -- controversy Controversy controversy Do I believe in god? do I believe in me? Some people wanna die so they can be free (I said) life is just a game, were all just the same...do you wanna play? Controversy controversy controversy Controversy controversy controversy Our father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name Thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven Give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our trespasses As we forgive those who trespass against us Lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil For thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever and ever Controversy controversy controversy controversy Love him, love him baby Controversy controversy controversy Controversy controversy controversy Listen People call me rude, I wish we were all nude I wish there was no black and white, I wish there were no rules (repeat 3 times) Controversy controversy Do I believe in god? do I believe in me? let me tell ya... Some people wanna die so they can be free (I said) life is just a game, were all just the same...dont ya wanna play? Controversy controversy controversy controversy This was when P was in touch and had pure artistic freedom. too bad some of his fans couldn't embrace the openness of his statement. Space for sale... | |
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sosgemini said: Rockability said: Greatest Prince song:
I just cant believe all the things people say -- controversy Am I black or white? am I !!!!!straight or gay!!!!! -- controversy Do I believe in god? do I believe in me? -- controversy Controversy controversy I cant understand human curiosity -- controversy Was it good for you? was I what you wanted me to be? -- controversy Do you get high? does your daddy cry? -- controversy Controversy controversy Do I believe in god? do I believe in me? Some people wanna die so they can be free (I said) life is just a game, were all just the same...do you wanna play? Controversy controversy controversy Controversy controversy controversy Our father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name Thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven Give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our trespasses As we forgive those who trespass against us Lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil For thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever and ever Controversy controversy controversy controversy Love him, love him baby Controversy controversy controversy Controversy controversy controversy Listen People call me rude, I wish we were all nude I wish there was no black and white, I wish there were no rules (repeat 3 times) Controversy controversy Do I believe in god? do I believe in me? let me tell ya... Some people wanna die so they can be free (I said) life is just a game, were all just the same...dont ya wanna play? Controversy controversy controversy controversy This was when P was in touch and had pure artistic freedom. too bad some of his fans couldn't embrace the openness of his statement. Yeah, its a great song and actually one of Prince's most personal works. Basically, he is saying don't judge me for being light-skinned black; don't judge me if if I am black or white. Don't judge me if I'm straight or gay. Cause if I might prefer both who cares? Don't judge me about my family life, its screwed up. Don't judge my religious beliefs. Then his statement to the effect is "People call me rude, I wish we were all nude I wish there was no black and white, I wish there were no rules" So basically this thread is an appreciation thread to "Controversy." [Edited 6/24/07 22:29pm] | |
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laurarichardson said: I am not thinking of coming out voluntarily. I am thinking of someone outing P.
Yes, it is possible that he is gay but, why has no one outed him and why would P just not come out and say so. Let's say this if is, and he's gay or bi or trans or some other variation: 1) Why has no one outed him? People like to point out that Prince has pissed off more than his fair share of people over the years. And he has, no question. There've been times when he's had no good will to coast on at all. So someone who feels (wrongly or rightly) they'ved been treated badly might have plenty of reason to try to destroy his career by outing him. But here are a few things to consider: The man does have money and a fantastic legal team and everyone knows this. Money and a good lawyer can buy you anything, even secrecy. Also, if popular rumour is to be believed and confidentiality contracts are made to be signed, then it's a bit hard to defend breaching said contract, isn't it? Also, coming out as gay is no longer the death knell to a celeb's career it used to be. More often than not an outing is greeted with a "So what?" by the press and general public. A bit of gossip maybe, but no longer a scandal. It's possible there are people who know about Prince's sexual going-ons and couldn't be bothered, knowing that it wouldn't mean much to much of anyone to know Prince swung both ways. 2)And why wouldn't he come out himself? Why wouldn't anyone come out, is the question. There are as many reasons for not wanting or not being able to be open and honest about one's sexuality as there are sexual varieties, and that's saying something. It could be fear, it could be internalized homophobia, it could be the influence of friends or family members, it could be a religious belief holding one back. In some countries it's fear of jail time or death. Personally, I'd be surprised as hell to learn he'd never had any desire to, if not actually tried out any "alt" sexual behaviour. Vanilla just doesn't strike me as his flavour, if you know what I mean. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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PurpleCharm said: datdude said: man, this thread won't die already. but i've come to realize there are more male divas than i ever thought on the org. and many of them are HETERO-phobic, anything a non gay person says is automatically hateful and intolerant. i don't hate anyone. not "AFRAID" of anyone, have gay friends, they know whassup with my views. (yo btw, for my friends that ARE homophobic, that bold "hitting on whomever i want spirit" fulfills their worst fear and will definitely get u knocked the fuck out!)
ultimately LOVE is supposed to be able to create LIFE also, it was never intended that diapers be worn by anything but babies and perhaps incontinent seniors. not a necessity brought about by male turd-burglarization. our biology belies this shit (pun intended), but like always, when man wants to do what he wants, he finds a way. do your thing, suffer the consequences, (physiologically that is), but don't expect everybody else to treat it as normal str8 men who like Prince UNITE! it seems we're way outnumbered [Edited 6/24/07 15:56pm] [/quote] It’s really sad that quite a few people here really want him 2 b gay, and yes there r a lot of gay people on this site, which is ok but hell don't make him the way u want him 2 b. If Prince had a relationship with another man trust and believe it would have gotten out by now if only 2 be paid by the tabloids 4 the story. Prince is very sexy and in touch with his feminine side and its nothing wrong with that and just because of the songs he has written don’t prove anything. Trust and believe the man like women. Until Prince comes out and admit he’s gay or have been in a relationship with another man I will never believe it. It’s a shame that people claim 2 know this man better than himself. This is my opinion only. | |
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pennylover said: PurpleCharm said: It’s really sad that quite a few people here really want him 2 b gay, and yes there r a lot of gay people on this site, which is ok but hell don't make him the way u want him 2 b. If Prince had a relationship with another man trust and believe it would have gotten out by now if only 2 be paid by the tabloids 4 the story. Prince is very sexy and in touch with his feminine side and its nothing wrong with that and just because of the songs he has written don’t prove anything. Trust and believe the man like women. Until Prince comes out and admit he’s gay or have been in a relationship with another man I will never believe it. It’s a shame that people claim 2 know this man better than himself. This is my opinion only. excuse me but, ummm do share with us...whats sad again? Space for sale... | |
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pennylover said: PurpleCharm said: It’s really sad that quite a few people here really want him 2 b gay, and yes there r a lot of gay people on this site, which is ok but hell don't make him the way u want him 2 b. If Prince had a relationship with another man trust and believe it would have gotten out by now if only 2 be paid by the tabloids 4 the story. Prince is very sexy and in touch with his feminine side and its nothing wrong with that and just because of the songs he has written don’t prove anything. Trust and believe the man like women. Until Prince comes out and admit he’s gay or have been in a relationship with another man I will never believe it. It’s a shame that people claim 2 know this man better than himself. This is my opinion only. Pretty funny on a Prince fansite that you would see people all up in arms that Prince isn't bi (which these people term gay). Very clueless people to Prince's earlier side. Those of us who remember the earlier Prince only wonder if he is bi. You guys seem to hate the notion he might be "gay" and want him to be straight. [Edited 6/24/07 22:47pm] | |
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i wanna follow up my statement by asking,
is it sad to be open that "the one" you cherish is happy with himself... or is is sad to have to admit that "the one" doesn't fit in your own preconceived box? then look at your post and think, "am i inclusive of the revolution or am i perpetuating the hated and stereotype?" Space for sale... | |
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sosgemini said: pennylover said: It’s really sad that quite a few people here really want him 2 b gay, and yes there r a lot of gay people on this site, which is ok but hell don't make him the way u want him 2 b. If Prince had a relationship with another man trust and believe it would have gotten out by now if only 2 be paid by the tabloids 4 the story. Prince is very sexy and in touch with his feminine side and its nothing wrong with that and just because of the songs he has written don’t prove anything. Trust and believe the man like women. Until Prince comes out and admit he’s gay or have been in a relationship with another man I will never believe it. It’s a shame that people claim 2 know this man better than himself. This is my opinion only. excuse me but, ummm do share with us...whats sad again? sad that so many want him 2 b something hes not. No one here knows if hes gay or not and this subject comes up 2 much on this site again thats my opinion, I thought I explained it in my post, nothing against gays its just funny how so many see him as being gay when they don't really know | |
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sosgemini said: i wanna follow up my statement by asking,
is it sad to be open that "the one" you cherish is happy with himself... or is is sad to have to admit that "the one" doesn't fit in your own preconceived box? then look at your post and think, "am i inclusive of the revolution or am i perpetuating the hated and stereotype?" I really don't care 2 even discuss this subject anyway further, sorry I commented on it in the first place | |
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pennylover said: sosgemini said: excuse me but, ummm do share with us...whats sad again? sad that so many want him 2 b something hes not. No one here knows if hes gay or not and this subject comes up 2 much on this site again thats my opinion, I thought I explained it in my post, nothing against gays its just funny how so many see him as being gay when they don't really know but isn't that what art is about? art starts as a blank canvas...and the artist paints a vision...and the more popular the art is is based on how much "the collective" can appreciate the art? when you slam others for their interpretation you exclude them...when you cry "disgust" or "diaper" you say, "you are not included"...its a brown bag test...and it hurts...its sad...and its pathetic...expecially for an artist like prince who has walked the fine line between conventional and unconventional. and you wonder why others are so offended by such statements? just look at lyrics, the album covers and the heart of the music of the past...and throw up like the rest of us. Space for sale... | |
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pennylover said: PurpleCharm said: It’s really sad that quite a few people here really want him 2 b gay, and yes there r a lot of gay people on this site, which is ok but hell don't make him the way u want him 2 b. If Prince had a relationship with another man trust and believe it would have gotten out by now if only 2 be paid by the tabloids 4 the story. Prince is very sexy and in touch with his feminine side and its nothing wrong with that and just because of the songs he has written don’t prove anything. Trust and believe the man like women. Until Prince comes out and admit he’s gay or have been in a relationship with another man I will never believe it. It’s a shame that people claim 2 know this man better than himself. This is my opinion only. What's sad is folk like you who feel the need to defend Prince's sexuality, as if you have something personally at stake in his only fucking women. You don't....do you? "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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sosgemini said: pennylover said: sad that so many want him 2 b something hes not. No one here knows if hes gay or not and this subject comes up 2 much on this site again thats my opinion, I thought I explained it in my post, nothing against gays its just funny how so many see him as being gay when they don't really know but isn't that what art is about? art starts as a blank canvas...and the artist paints a vision...and the more popular the art is is based on how much "the collective" can appreciate the art? when you slam others for their interpretation you exclude them...when you cry "disgust" or "diaper" you say, "you are not included"...its a brown bag test...and it hurts...its sad...and its pathetic...expecially for an artist like prince who has walked the fine line between conventional and unconventional. and you wonder why others are so offended by such statements? just look at lyrics, the album covers and the heart of the music of the past...and throw up like the rest of us. First of all I was agreeing with datdude when he said “str8 men who like Prince UNITE! It seems we're way outnumbered” I should have highlighted that line, as far as the other stuff mention; I have no comment on that at all. I have nothing else 2 say on this subject because its way above my head, I said what I had 2 say on it and it remains the same. I never really post on them other than 2 say I think Prince is totally straight. Like I said before, I will always believe he’s straight because it has come out of his mouth. And if anyone should know, it’s him. He has always been controversy by his dress appearance and his choice of words so does that make him gay. I personally think he gets a kick out of people discussing his sexuality because it is a topic that people here love 2 discuss If I offended anyone excuse me because it was not my intention 2 do so. | |
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meow85 said: pennylover said: It’s really sad that quite a few people here really want him 2 b gay, and yes there r a lot of gay people on this site, which is ok but hell don't make him the way u want him 2 b. If Prince had a relationship with another man trust and believe it would have gotten out by now if only 2 be paid by the tabloids 4 the story. Prince is very sexy and in touch with his feminine side and its nothing wrong with that and just because of the songs he has written don’t prove anything. Trust and believe the man like women. Until Prince comes out and admit he’s gay or have been in a relationship with another man I will never believe it. It’s a shame that people claim 2 know this man better than himself. This is my opinion only. What's sad is folk like you who feel the need to defend Prince's sexuality, as if you have something personally at stake in his only fucking women. You don't....do you? Hell do u have something at stake with him fucking women? Hell your the one getting all worked up about it. I could give a fuck who he fucks, but I do hope hes not lying about being gay. If u have a problem with what I said thats 2 fucking bad. | |
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your all takin this so serious. Hell I'd give anything to be with him for one night. And with whoever else he fancies to be there. yeah for P no hang ups. I love a man who is neither colored blind or gender blind. | |
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christos7 said: JudasLChrist said: I think it's my god given right to hit on whomever I feel inspired to hit on.
Yeah, and I think it's my God given right 2 punch the living suitcase outta people like U... U make gayness and arrogance seem 2 go hand in hand. thank goodness I'm 6'2 230 llbs and i know how to kick ass. Sucks for you. | |
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"At a high level of abstraction, homosexuality and heterosexuality might seem similar. So similar, in fact, that psychiatry and the media would have us believe that the only difference is in one’s choice of sex partners. Otherwise, homosexuals are ‘just like you and me.’ They work, dine, go to movies; they bleed, have ambitions, feelings, etc. But despite this message, in the ‘real world,’ there are enormous differences between what homosexuals and heterosexuals do.
There is no way to sugarcoat this reality. In fact, it is extremely distasteful. But if reality is skipped ‘out of decency,’ high flying abstractions tend to prevail. For men, what homosexuality really comes down to is getting the penises of other men -- often strangers or near-strangers -- into their rectums or mouths, or putting their penis into the mouths or rectums of other men. This reality is avoided at our intellectual peril. Furthermore, the differences between what ‘homosexuals’ and heterosexuals do show that homosexuality is about more than just sex -- it is about rebelling against and trying to corrupt society, even as heterosexuality is about, for the most part, having and raising children. Homosexuality is also about coloring the world with SEX, regardless of the consequences. Its most prominent attitude is selfishness -- getting what’s mine, what I deserve; getting back at all those who have hurt me, etc. Of course, those with homosexual proclivities generally do everything in their power not to admit these truths. In fact, they often become enraged if accused of being either promiscuous or fundamentally self-centered. And their rage is usually effective. Most people just ‘back off,’ not wanting a confrontation. Others decide that their anger must be justified -- that homosexuals must not really be so selfish or obsessed with sex. For why else would they get so upset? An example of this kind of reaction, from someone who ought to know better, is Dr. James Dobson, president of Focus on the Family. In a March 7th interview on Larry King Live, Dobson declared that he thought it was “a big mistake for people, uninformed people, to say that homosexuality is chosen. It usually isn’t.” Later in the program, he repeated that “It isn’t chosen, but it’s not genetic, either.” In his book, Bringing Up Boys (2001, Wheaton, IL: Tyndale House), Dobson repeats the same theme. He also uses his June 2002 letter to supporters to quote extensively from his chapter on homosexuality in Bringing Up Boys, calling it “a definitive explanation, I believe, regarding the origins of homosexuality” (p. 1): “first,...” homosexuality “...is a disorder.” “The second thing we know is that the disorder is not typically ‘chosen.’ Homosexuals deeply resent being told that they selected this same-sex inclination in pursuit of sexual excitement or some other motive. It is unfair, and I don’t blame them for being irritated by that assumption. Who among us would knowingly choose a path that would result in alienation from family, rejection by friends, disdain from the heterosexual world, exposure to sexually transmitted diseases such as AIDS and tuberculosis, and even a shorter lifespan. No, homosexuality is not ‘chosen’ except in rare circumstances. Instead, bewildered children and adolescents... find themselves dealing with something they don’t even understand.” (pp. 115-116) Dobson later says: “The bottom line is that homosexuality is not primarily about sex. It is about everything else, including loneliness, rejection, affirmation, intimacy, identity, relationships, parenting, self-hatred, gender confusion, and a search for belonging. This explains why the homosexual experience is so intense -- and why there is such anger expressed against those who are perceived as disrespecting gays and lesbians or making their experience more painful. I suppose if we who are straight had walked in the shoes of those in that ‘other world,’ we would be angry too.” (pp. 122-123) http://www.familyresearch...02_07.html | |
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JudasLChrist said: christos7 said: Yeah, and I think it's my God given right 2 punch the living suitcase outta people like U... U make gayness and arrogance seem 2 go hand in hand. thank goodness I'm 6'2 230 llbs and i know how to kick ass. Sucks for you. U'd better bring some boyfriends babe. I'd fuck the lot of u, and keep my dick in my pants.. | |
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Do u think maybe men and women both have masculine and feminin traits after all all fetus's are female until after 3months. | |
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pennylover said: meow85 said: What's sad is folk like you who feel the need to defend Prince's sexuality, as if you have something personally at stake in his only fucking women. You don't....do you? correction Hell do u have something at stake with him fucking women? Hell you're the one getting all worked up about it. I could'nt give a fuck who he fucks, but I do hope hes not lying about being straight. If u have a problem with what I said thats 2 fucking bad. [Edited 6/25/07 1:28am] | |
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Rockability said: sosgemini said: too bad some of his fans couldn't embrace the openness of his statement. Yeah, its a great song and actually one of Prince's most personal works. Basically, he is saying don't judge me for being light-skinned black; don't judge me if if I am black or white. Don't judge me if I'm straight or gay. Cause if I might prefer both who cares? Don't judge me about my family life, its screwed up. Don't judge my religious beliefs. Then his statement to the effect is "People call me rude, I wish we were all nude I wish there was no black and white, I wish there were no rules" So basically this thread is an appreciation thread to "Controversy." [Edited 6/24/07 22:29pm] Case Closed. There you have it in a nut shell! | |
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christos7 said: Tittyenvy and/or fear. | |
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LOVEandLIGHT said: All these ignorant ass comments about "turd burgary" and "Diapers"...Thats f#*king disgusting!
Obviously you don't know anything about anal sex, you stupid dip sh*t on a stick! Gay men don't get hemmroids any more than str8 folk and never have I heard or seen or experienced wearing a diaper because of anal sex! Being Gay isn't about choice, its about your nature. Just because you can't see yourself being touched or made love too by some big dirty ass dude, doesn't mean the next man doesn't. In fact I would never lie down with a dirty man, I love a man with great hygiene and who takes good care of himself. Your ignorant!!! No one ever made a pass on your stupid, immature, uneducated ass. Someone simply made a post about Prince and then some one immature had to go posting pics of gay men and saying all sorts of negative stuff. Your life is your life and so is mine. You don't have to engage in anything with another man, but you need to respect everyone regardless and its not all about creating life. Its about "Love" and some str8 folk, don't want children, doesn't mean their any less than you. Pro-create if you want, but don't knock the next person who doesn't want to or can't. Life is all about choices and if you know that deep down inside you don't or can't see yourself with someone of the opposite sex, "YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE WITH WHOM EVER YOU WANT TOO". Just because some one told you that being str8 was the right way to go...doesn't mean you have to come down on anyone who doesn't feel the same way. People are always glorifying gays with sex! Its not all about that for most gays...because you can have a very healthy relationship with someone mentally, emotionally, spiritually and physically. I have dated men in the past who said they would be satisfied with just having that companionship and knowing that they have someone in their corner to love and support oneanother and that sex is the last thing on the list, because thats something special. So all the non-sense about turds and sh*tting on yourselves are pure homophobic statements. Because you need to educate yourselves more and know that gay men don't sh*t on oneanother during sex. Maybe you always have sh*t stuck in your ass too know these things...but don't do it on a full stomach pal! . [Edited 6/25/07 9:57am] | |
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prettymansson said:[quote] LOVEandLIGHT said: All these ignorant ass comments about "turd burgary" and "Diapers"...Thats f#*king disgusting!
Obviously you don't know anything about anal sex, you stupid dip sh*t on a stick! Gay men don't get hemmroids any more than str8 folk and never have I heard or seen or experienced wearing a diaper because of anal sex! Being Gay isn't about choice, its about your nature. Just because you can't see yourself being touched or made love too by some big dirty ass dude, doesn't mean the next man doesn't. In fact I would never lie down with a dirty man, I love a man with great hygiene and who takes good care of himself. Your ignorant!!! No one ever made a pass on your stupid, immature, uneducated ass. Someone simply made a post about Prince and then some one immature had to go posting pics of gay men and saying all sorts of negative stuff. Your life is your life and so is mine. You don't have to engage in anything with another man, but you need to respect everyone regardless and its not all about creating life. Its about "Love" and some str8 folk, don't want children, doesn't mean their any less than you. Pro-create if you want, but don't knock the next person who doesn't want to or can't. Life is all about choices and if you know that deep down inside you don't or can't see yourself with someone of the opposite sex, "YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE WITH WHOM EVER YOU WANT TOO". Just because some one told you that being str8 was the right way to go...doesn't mean you have to come down on anyone who doesn't feel the same way. People are always glorifying gays with sex! Its not all about that for most gays...because you can have a very healthy relationship with someone mentally, emotionally, spiritually and physically. I have dated men in the past who said they would be satisfied with just having that companionship and knowing that they have someone in their corner to love and support oneanother and that sex is the last thing on the list, because thats something special. So all the non-sense about turds and sh*tting on yourselves are pure homophobic statements. Because you need to educate yourselves more and know that gay men don't sh*t on oneanother during sex. Maybe you always have sh*t stuck in your ass too know these things...but don't do it on a full stomach pal! Dont be so offended about wanting a Dick...I said Gay people are cool with me ! I just have no desire to be ANY MANS BITCH ! if u do do...Cool ! | |
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This thread is really fucking sad. Some of you have no fucking clue what homophobia is. Any time you wanna beat somebody's ass for hitting on you, that's a problem. If a woman hit on me I'd just let her know I'm not gay & keep it movin', no need to take any further action than I would turning down a man. But if there's something in you that wants to get VIOLENT w/ a person in response to being interested in you, you have a fucking problem. I don't have any rage against gay people, I don't have any rage against people who believe Prince is/was/could be gay or bi, it's just not that serious to me (I don't even think he's gay or bi, but the POSSIBILITY doesn't outrage or anger me - wtf is THAT about??). If this shit makes you ANGRY, you have a problem on a deeper level. There's just no need for some of the reactions here - if it ain't your thing that's cool, but to label it "disgusting" & have violent/whoop ass reactions to it is pretty offensive. Like someone said earlier, try telling your gay "friends" how "disgusting" you think it is & see if y'all are still friends for much longer. Why harbor HATRED over something that's consentual, pleasurable & doesn't concern you?
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