Have u ever wanted to play with someone so much you'd take anyone - boy or girl
I think Prince was talking about himself, but its open to interpretation and I don't really care either way. I would like for him to have an heir but I doubt it's going to happen now. As a straight man, I would gladly turn gay for the talent and success of Prince. He is insanely talented, I am very untalented lol. | |
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Imago said: murph said: Interesting post.. Well, I would first like to qoute Sly Stone's well-worn classic line "Different strokes for different folks..." as an African-American, someone being gay, or not being gay has no affect on me...However, I think some African-Americans get a little annoyed when gays try to equate their struggles with the black experience...But that's another thread... I don't think gays try to equate anything to the African American experience. Though I certainly think the "gay struggle" is nothing to downplay. The homosexual struggle as it were has been around at least back to the rise of Abraham religions in Rome, and continues to this day with 80 countries banning homosexuality, and several of those, with punishment of death. As far as the African American population being less than sympathetic to gay rights, I don't mean this as a blanket "Every black person hates gays" type of thing as there are guys like you who couldn't care either way. But as a voting demographic, it's generally known to be true, and was actually a strategy Republicans tried to employ in recruiting African Americans over to their party. This of course failed largely, as I've stated because African Americans aren't single issue voters, and vote progressive due to a wide range of issues. You must be living in a vacum...hell, some of my African-American gay friends have talked about their annoyance at their white gay brothers and sisters equating their gay struggle with being black in America...I guess it's that little part of history in which we were enslaved, not allowed to vote and basically were given second class citizen status beyond not being able to get married...To me, other than the fact that the African-American experience is connected with the black church (which as you know has had its religious probloems with homosexuality) it's a very complex mix...But that's life... [Edited 6/24/07 7:32am] | |
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murph said: Imago said: I don't think gays try to equate anything to the African American experience. Though I certainly think the "gay struggle" is nothing to downplay. The homosexual struggle as it were has been around at least back to the rise of Abraham religions in Rome, and continues to this day with 80 countries banning homosexuality, and several of those, with punishment of death. As far as the African American population being less than sympathetic to gay rights, I don't mean this as a blanket "Every black person hates gays" type of thing as there are guys like you who couldn't care either way. But as a voting demographic, it's generally known to be true, and was actually a strategy Republicans tried to employ in recruiting African Americans over to their party. This of course failed largely, as I've stated because African Americans aren't single issue voters, and vote progressive due to a wide range of issues. You must be living in a vacum...hell, some of my African-American gay friends have talked about their annoyance at their white gay brothers and sisters equating their gay struggle with being black in America...I guess it's that little part of history in which we were enslaved, not allowed to vote and basically were given second class citizen status beyond not being able to get married...To me, other than the fact that the African-American experience is connected with the black church (which as you know has had its religious probloems with homosexuality) it's a very complex mix...But that's life... [Edited 6/24/07 7:32am] Gays have said that the struggle for equality beckons to the African American struggle for equality--Not the experience itself. | |
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Actually, let's not go down the slippery road of pulling the other minority angles in to this. I'm sorry I tried to clarify what the original poster meant by "as an African American". I knew I'd be left to defend my own comments.
Back to what spawned this: Statements saying that Prince being gay equates to being gross or unthinkable or offensive, are homophobic in tone, if not intention. I can see why people are upset over it. | |
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phishyfood said: Imago said: You on Oprah he said that he went through therapy or some shit and they discovered he has a multiple personalities. And that the other "personality"--they haven't discovered the sex of it yet... meaning it was possibly a woman. I think this is all horse shit , but that's probably Princes unique way of "coming out" He was joking about that other personality thing, although it has some truth to it. He definitly has a kind of split personality about him, like how he was at a popular nightclub for celebs and offered the two strippers double their pay if they stopped dancing and said things along the lines of "what would your mothers think if they knew?" and "its disgraceful to demean yourselves that way" ????? Where that came from, I dont know because he and his girls are not any more innocent than the strippers, and no one knows why he was even at the club, because apparently he doesnt even like the music or talk to anyone there, but he frequents it anyways..... He's always been a little eratic (and erotic ) though, so i wouldnt be suprised if there WAS a woman in him, or at least a wee little leprachaun thats been driving him to act strangely in public. I hope it's the leprechaun. I love Prince. And I'd stop doing whatever I did if he offered me double pay. But I wouldn't give two shits about his lectures. | |
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Imago said: murph said: You must be living in a vacum...hell, some of my African-American gay friends have talked about their annoyance at their white gay brothers and sisters equating their gay struggle with being black in America...I guess it's that little part of history in which we were enslaved, not allowed to vote and basically were given second class citizen status beyond not being able to get married...To me, other than the fact that the African-American experience is connected with the black church (which as you know has had its religious probloems with homosexuality) it's a very complex mix...But that's life... [Edited 6/24/07 7:32am] Gays have said that the struggle for equality beckons to the African American struggle for equality--Not the experience itself. It doesn't...But that's besides the point... | |
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murph said: Imago said: Gays have said that the struggle for equality beckons to the African American struggle for equality--Not the experience itself. It doesn't...But that's besides the point... And if it's only a 100th of what African Americans went through, does this than make it unimportant? But yes, that's beside the point. | |
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Imago said: murph said: It doesn't...But that's besides the point... And if it's only a 100th of what African Americans went through, does this than make it unimportant? But yes, that's beside the point. Besides the point? Yes it is...lol [Edited 6/24/07 7:52am] | |
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I am not thinking of coming out voluntarily. I am thinking of someone outing P.
Yes, it is possible that he is gay but, why has no one outed him and why would P just not come out and say so. Imago said: laurarichardson said: ----- Sorry but because I think the topic is silly does not make me or anyone else homophobic. As an African-American I take offense to this as it would imply that I have a bias against gay people. I don't care if P is gay. I just don't buy that he has been for 30 plus years and it never came out in the public. Just does not seem possible and I do think it is wishful thinking on the part of some orgers. Which is fine. We all can have our dreams. Liberace never came out. Alot of stars never came out. Alot of stars who don't wear high heels, makeup, silk stockings, and long permed hair. These things of course don't make the man gay obviously--but dismissing any iota of a thought that if it looks like a duck, etc. it must be a duck, is kind of closed minded. | |
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datdude said: to acknowledge something is disgusting is not = to being "AFRAID of" it or the people who do it.
----- co-sign. If you don't like something you have a right not to like it or find it disgusting. It does not mean you hate anyone. | |
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laurarichardson said: Yes, it is possible that he is gay but, why has no one outed him and why would P just not come out and say so Perhaps, Career Suicide and the picture below should answer your question. | |
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Whats the point of being a transexual to sleep with other men?
If you were born a male and are attracted to men, why would you get a sex change to be with men, you can still have great sex with other men as a male. What hetero male wants a woman who use to be a man (that's gay) lol What homo male wants a man who got his peter chopped off? (that ain't gay) Ok now I'm confused! But being gay ain't disgusting, sex is sex, how ever you like it dished to ya! Sex is natural and if your attracted to someone male or female, it doesn't mean that its nasty or disgusting. Its just life. Prince could very well be a repressed bisexual, but it wouldn't show in his music at all, because his music sounds great to me and I 've been a fan since the early 80's! [Edited 6/24/07 10:10am] | |
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laurarichardson said: datdude said: to acknowledge something is disgusting is not = to being "AFRAID of" it or the people who do it.
----- co-sign. If you don't like something you have a right not to like it or find it disgusting. It does not mean you hate anyone. Are you two attempting to reason that calling a homosexual act "disgusting" somehow isn't homophobic??? Really? | |
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CalhounSq said: laurarichardson said: ----- co-sign. If you don't like something you have a right not to like it or find it disgusting. It does not mean you hate anyone. Are you two attempting to reason that calling a homosexual act "disgusting" somehow isn't homophobic??? Really? | |
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CalhounSq said: laurarichardson said: ----- co-sign. If you don't like something you have a right not to like it or find it disgusting. It does not mean you hate anyone. Are you two attempting to reason that calling a homosexual act "disgusting" somehow isn't homophobic??? Really? ----- I never said it was disgusting but,if someone thinks a homosexual act is disgusting that is their opinion. It does not mean they are going to discriminate agaisnt someone because they are gay or attack them. You can dislike actions and not hate the individual. | |
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five said: Again some r meant 2 b loved and not understood! can u wrap ur mind around this? most probably can't. but its cool. 2 Love some1 doesn't require perfection does it...this may be where it goes wrong. does it really have 2 be 1's prefrence? how do u know the prefrence of another, did they sit u down and tell u? did a little birdy shout it out loud but only u heard it in ur ear? LOL....really now:
if u're not being urself then ureself's not being, u don't exsist! there is far more 2 life than what most think, via religion - we'll never experience a perfect 1 not in this system of things, via woman or man. now 2 say that - does it really matter what another is...if it's not u or headed ur way then don't worry about it...yet alone talk about it. again, Loved not understood! sometimes u can try and try to understand some1 and find u just can't, yet u can still Love them and let them be. but 2 get all wrapped up in what some1 likes in another...well come on....if it's true, then SO WHAT! if it ain't, then shut up! but who are u all to talk about it. oooo yeah i 4got 'TRUE PRINCE FANS'! 'u can feed ur mind trash, yet will u serve it at ur dinner table'? I HATE RUMORS...UNLESS U GET 2 KNOW SOME1 VIA URSELF, THEN U DON'T KNOW EM' AT ALL. THERE'S ALWAYS 2 SIDES 2 EVERY STORY, SOMETIMES 3. lol. signed... God "Bliss" Love [Edited 6/24/07 10:46am] Space for sale... | |
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LOVEandLIGHT said: Whats the point of being a transexual to sleep with other men?
I am not a transexual just to sleep with men.I'm just being who I truly am inside and out.Prince has influenced me to have the courage to do just that. Now I truly accept myself.Though I believe Prince is straight, if I was wrong that really does'nt matter to me .It could never take away the impact he's had on my life.If you were born a male and are attracted to men, why would you get a sex change to be with men, you can still have great sex with other men as a male. What hetero male wants a woman who use to be a man (that's gay) lol What homo male wants a man who got his peter chopped off? (that ain't gay) Ok now I'm confused! But being gay ain't disgusting, sex is sex, how ever you like it dished to ya! Sex is natural and if your attracted to someone male or female, it doesn't mean that its nasty or disgusting. Its just life. Prince could very well be a repressed bisexual, but it wouldn't show in his music at all, because his music sounds great to me and I 've been a fan since the early 80's! [Edited 6/24/07 10:10am] | |
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sosgemini said: five said: Again some r meant 2 b loved and not understood! can u wrap ur mind around this? most probably can't. but its cool. 2 Love some1 doesn't require perfection does it...this may be where it goes wrong. does it really have 2 be 1's prefrence? how do u know the prefrence of another, did they sit u down and tell u? did a little birdy shout it out loud but only u heard it in ur ear? LOL....really now:
if u're not being urself then ureself's not being, u don't exsist! there is far more 2 life than what most think, via religion - we'll never experience a perfect 1 not in this system of things, via woman or man. now 2 say that - does it really matter what another is...if it's not u or headed ur way then don't worry about it...yet alone talk about it. again, Loved not understood! sometimes u can try and try to understand some1 and find u just can't, yet u can still Love them and let them be. but 2 get all wrapped up in what some1 likes in another...well come on....if it's true, then SO WHAT! if it ain't, then shut up! but who are u all to talk about it. oooo yeah i 4got 'TRUE PRINCE FANS'! 'u can feed ur mind trash, yet will u serve it at ur dinner table'? I HATE RUMORS...UNLESS U GET 2 KNOW SOME1 VIA URSELF, THEN U DON'T KNOW EM' AT ALL. THERE'S ALWAYS 2 SIDES 2 EVERY STORY, SOMETIMES 3. lol. signed... God "Bliss" Love [Edited 6/24/07 10:46am] | |
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I really don't think its in your right to say how you hate or dislike the act and not the individual. Are you God?
Further more...I don't like seeing naked women and their clits, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna say (EWWW). We all are entitled to our own opinions true. But for you to say you don't like the act (have you ever been included in the act or have someone made you sit and watch a gay porno?). It doesn't matter if you like it or not, its not your place to judge people. Sex is natural and I say, keep your sex acts in the bedroom to all the homos and hetero's. Thats something private/intimate and precious between two grown ass consenting adults. | |
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LOVEandLIGHT said: I really don't think its in your right to say how you hate or dislike the act and not the individual.
Stop blowing things out of proportion. If things hits to close at home in this thread for Princey, so be it. Damn Censorship and NPG Message Boards. Put down your purple cool aid. [Edited 6/24/07 11:07am] | |
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I have several wonderful gay friends..but I would try to beat the shit out of any man that tried to put his hand on me like I was a female...AGAIN..YES , that pic of two hairy dudes fucking each other makes me want to VOMIT !!!! | |
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U could have the noose around your kneck
and juuuust about to tip over the chair underneath you, and manage to click on the org with your toe and find this weeks "prince /gay" thread , and youll STILL laugh your fucken ass off | |
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laurarichardson said: I am not thinking of coming out voluntarily. I am thinking of someone outing P.
Yes, it is possible that he is gay but, why has no one outed him and why would P just not come out and say so. Because he's not. The people who want him to be bisexual want a piece of him. Too bad because he's for us ladies. Live with it and just drop it! Imago said: Liberace never came out. Alot of stars never came out. Alot of stars who don't wear high heels, makeup, silk stockings, and long permed hair. These things of course don't make the man gay obviously--but dismissing any iota of a thought that if it looks like a duck, etc. it must be a duck, is kind of closed minded. | |
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prettymansson said: I have several wonderful gay friends..but I would try to beat the shit out of any man that tried to put his hand on me like I was a female...AGAIN..YES , that pic of two hairy dudes fucking each other makes me want to VOMIT !!!!
That is classic homophobia. Go tell yr "friends" that you are going to beat the shit out of them if they make a pass at you. See how long that friendship lasts. I think it's my god given right to hit on whomever I feel inspired to hit on. Dudes can say no. It's not like I'm gonna rape someone. | |
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JudasLChrist said: I think it's my god given right to hit on whomever I feel inspired to hit on.
Yeah, and I think it's my God given right 2 punch the living suitcase outta people like U... U make gayness and arrogance seem 2 go hand in hand. | |
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JudasLChrist said: prettymansson said: I have several wonderful gay friends..but I would try to beat the shit out of any man that tried to put his hand on me like I was a female...AGAIN..YES , that pic of two hairy dudes fucking each other makes me want to VOMIT !!!!
That is classic homophobia. Go tell yr "friends" that you are going to beat the shit out of them if they make a pass at you. See how long that friendship lasts. I think it's my god given right to hit on whomever I feel inspired to hit on. Dudes can say no. It's not like I'm gonna rape someone. You dont know me..... I am FAR from a typical DUDE.. Cant stand them in fact... But im also FAR from a man that seeĀ“s a Dick as something interesting in ANY way....when a MAN can have a soft beautiful woman..(the RIGHT/ONLY sexual partner to have to do little things like...ahhhhh.....?PROCREATE !!!! ) How the hell..can a dirty ass man with the same shit you got..be a turn on ??? Homophobia my ass ! I love to be around gay people because they are cool and like me most often dont want no trouble..My kinda folks ! BUT.....Hell no ..I dont want no dirty ass dude trying to put his hands on me ! I would 100% FUCK HIM UP ! | |
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Imago said: that pic is gross But Prince could have as my mom used to say "50 Japanese sissies" cavorting in his bed if he wanted to as long as the music is good what do I care what goes on in his personal life | |
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man, this thread won't die already. but i've come to realize there are more male divas than i ever thought on the org. and many of them are HETERO-phobic, anything a non gay person says is automatically hateful and intolerant. i don't hate anyone. not "AFRAID" of anyone, have gay friends, they know whassup with my views. (yo btw, for my friends that ARE homophobic, that bold "hitting on whomever i want spirit" fulfills their worst fear and will definitely get u knocked the fuck out!)
ultimately LOVE is supposed to be able to create LIFE also, it was never intended that diapers be worn by anything but babies and perhaps incontinent seniors. not a necessity brought about by male turd-burglarization. our biology belies this shit (pun intended), but like always, when man wants to do what he wants, he finds a way. do your thing, suffer the consequences, (physiologically that is), but don't expect everybody else to treat it as normal str8 men who like Prince UNITE! it seems we're way outnumbered [Edited 6/24/07 15:56pm] | |
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