jn2 said:

i wouldn't put any money on that.

MsLegs said:

It was more ridiculous than really harmful.
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Frankly I don't give a crap what he's going on about as long as it's good material. I'm sorry but P has some stuff from his pre-religious conversion catalog that is just as bad as material since he got saved.

Ifsixwuz9 said:

yes but it's not hateful religious dogma stating people are 'banished' and women in subjection to the chosen one, theocratic order etc.

Ifsixwuz9 said:

so true..3 chains of gold is crap until the guitar solo imo
do u lie? city!

icke4presidant said:

did God not "banish" those that didn't follow his commandents in the book of Exodus?

if memory serves me correctly, and it not i apoligize, but in Islam, women r subjective. In the history of Asian culture, women were docile and couldn't even speak without their husbands approval.

there are many things wrong in even catholicism and Judism that r morally wrong in these current times, but it seems that the Prince community can't say anything wrong about that since Prince is not involved in those religions but is involved with the biggest taboo of them all..Jehovah Witness.

btw, I am not a JW or belong 2 any organized religion. I'm just merely suggestion that u open u'r mind 2 another view and don't take things so personally that Prince or any other musican, actor, non entertainer may say. U have u'r own voice and direction that works best 4 u.

jn2 said:

Depends on parties involved and who you ask. Of course, there's no turning back now the damage is permenate and cannot be undone.

Anxiety said:

Fans of hip-hop/rap claim that they do no listen to the words .The same words that were used to enslave their people and hurt women. They just listen to the beat.

You all claim to listen to the words of Prince's music instead of the beat.
Hmmm.
If I had to choose hip-hop dogma vs. JW/Prince dogma ,I am going with Prince and Larry Graham.

muleFunk said:

Really?

Try listening to Rip the jacker by Canibus; it's the most advanced lyrical album ever made; only one cuss word by the way

Excuse me ... "Gangsta" rap.
Cuss words may not be the problem because cuss word has meaning if used properly.
Point of the matter is that the whole genre has gone into a "criminal" (Canibus?) mentality that is steeped in MK-Ultra. People then and go off the deep end because Prince is not singing about eating pussing or fucking his sister. Then they will go out and promote people who want to give their minds over to the government.

I'll tell you about spiritual maturity. It's all over Angels and Vampires by Sananda Maitreya AKA TTD. I mean really, the whole revelation, do good or the devil will get you generalizations are spiritually speaking third grade stuff. Let's have some practical application of spirituality, like Screamer by TTD where he talks about being opressed all his life by his fathers attempts to comtrol his emotions, but now he's a screamer. Let's talk about a lyric like "dance around your ashes when you burn inside, cuz when the arrow pierces your heart, it turns the tide." Prince is the best musician ever, but he's afraid to write or at least release really personal songs, and this holds him back from truly being spiritual. It's not dogmatic in the sense that he's saying read this verse and say this prayer etc. But it's dogmatic in the sense that he keeps putting out these very general impersonal religious messages that are meant as advice to the world. But enough, I say. If Prince really wants to be spiritual he should write songs that confront himself about his issues like his need for control, or his relationship with his parents, or some dreams he never fulfilled. In fact, looking back I would say that Prince's most spiritual album was The Truth, at least there were some personal songs on there.
Throughout Prince's entire body of work I can't think of one song where he talks about mistakes he made, wrong turns he took, dreams unfullfilled, and even real songs about rejection like I love you but I don't trust you anymore are few and far between. If he really wants to be spiritual he should show us his struggles and his demons and his pain. It's been twenty nine years in the public eye and the whole GOD/SEX theme is played out. It was once incredible, but now he's beating a dead horse and it's time to be an adult.
It's like the story Susan Rogers told about the song Wally, and how he erased it because it was too personal. Prince your pushin' 50, it's time to go deeper than revelation and Lion of Judah. That was Deep when it was written in the bible, but now it's just plagarism.

Lovesexy --> spiritual

TRC --> religious & preachy

If Plant Earth is spiritual like Lovesexy then fine...if it's another preachy album like TRC, then I'll probably find it kinda annoying. Don't get me wrong, I like several songs on TRC but the preachiness is a turn off, even if the music is good.

DevotedPuppy said:

I agree to a certain extent although god is not spiritual; man is

I LOVE spiritual Prince. We all must reach a point of maturity some day and this is where Prince is. He's been through many stages in his life and I'm glad his path has led him to God, I would love to hear him speak of The bible and his beliefs, he giving thanks for the many blessings he's had.

wlcm2thdwn said:

yep!

wlcm2thdwn said:

The bible is full of hate, prejudice, rape, murder and slavery!

datdude said:

Yeah, watch out for Chuck D and Flavor Flav...

wickyb said:

flav will beat yo ass....but only if your a women

icke4presidant said:

That's presuming one believes in god....

wickyb said:

Why are people so critical of others religion they don't understand? Different Strokes for different folks.
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People that feel preached at, should fear absolutely everything outside their homes.

Brendan said:

It's funny how the same people who talk about Chuck D & Flava's religion(Islam) dog other religion. That's backslidding. What everyhappen to thou shall not judge or cast stones. Sounds like some backslidding.

drclay said:

You must aint heard the original Old friends 4 Sale but I digress. Please watch Annie Hall, and pay close attention to the scene where he dates a Rolling Stone photographer.

MsLegs said:

Ummm, I think wickyb was simply making a play on words about P.E. meaning "Public Enemy" instead of Planet Earth, hence the Flava Flav & Chuck D. comment--I doubt it was intended to be a comment on Islam.

icke4presidant said:

And your point is what? If the material is bad, does it really matter what the topic is?

L4OATheOriginal said:

Why even bother pointing out the obvious. You are wasting your time.