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Reply #30 posted 06/24/07 9:52pm

EmbattledWarri
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FarrahMoan said:

EmbattledWarrior said:


Brosephus
Bro - as in Brother
Sephus as in the jewish historian Joesephus
Brosephus...
Meanin old brotha or just a wierd way of sayin brotha lol
Rhythm is basically the underbelly of all things in music...
when it comes to the guitars it could be anything, Scratching, Playing chord progressions, playing a melody in a rhythmic fashion.
whattever
just being on tick...
the best place to learn about good rhythm is Funk 101...
listen to songs like graham central station Superbad by james...
You know what i mean by jeff beck
Just kissed my baby by the meters
its playing guitar in a percussivee fashion
A strong rhythm leads to everything groovy in guitar playing...
I know cats who can shred scales a mile a minute, but can't even play the simplest rhythmic lick like Sex Machine by JB
so RHYTHM, THAN LEAD, THAN MELODICLY COMBINE BOTH!


That's what I meant when I said, "Do you mean strummin' a guitar chord progression pattern like "Prince" does on "Lady Cab Driver", for example?" Because, I believe that "Prince" does the rhythm guitar on that track from "1999". Often, while on tour during that period, I think that "Prince" would often do the rhythm guitar on "Lady Cab Driver", while "Dez Dickerson" would actually do lead. Am I right on these assumptions?

correct broseph
P mastered his lead in the mid to late 80's
but first and foremost he was a masterful rhythm player
I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
With the Sunset forgetting, i ever Happened
http://www.myspace.com/stolenmorning
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Reply #31 posted 06/24/07 10:06pm

FarrahMoan

Can anyone in here by any chance tell me how I should work my whammy bar because it really doesn't seem to be making much of a difference?
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Reply #32 posted 06/25/07 1:47am

JesseDezz

EmbattledWarrior said:


A strong rhythm leads to everything groovy in guitar playing...
I know cats who can shred scales a mile a minute, but can't even play the simplest rhythmic lick like Sex Machine by JB
so RHYTHM, THAN LEAD, THAN MELODICLY COMBINE BOTH!


I second that. Rhythm guitar playing is a lost art in many ways. I knew a player who, as far as shredding goes, was one of the most technically accomplished players I've ever heard. Yet, he couldn't use a wah-wah pedal - he didn't have the coordination nor the rhythm chops to play funky. And I knew a Stevie Ray-type player who could solo all day long but didn't have much to say, rhythm-wise...
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Reply #33 posted 06/25/07 1:49am

JesseDezz

FarrahMoan said:

Can anyone in here by any chance tell me how I should work my whammy bar because it really doesn't seem to be making much of a difference?


If I were you, I'd take it off and put it in a drawer somewhere 'till you can learn really cover the basics of playing. Right now, it's probably more of a distraction than a musical device.
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Reply #34 posted 06/25/07 5:01am

FarrahMoan

JesseDezz said:

FarrahMoan said:

Can anyone in here by any chance tell me how I should work my whammy bar because it really doesn't seem to be making much of a difference?


If I were you, I'd take it off and put it in a drawer somewhere 'till you can learn really cover the basics of playing. Right now, it's probably more of a distraction than a musical device.


Oh, no, no!! LOL! You see, there is nothing distracting about it and that is probably the problem. Yeah, I know. Weird, right? No, but, really, I just want to make sure that it works. I have got it rammed into that hole where it belongs in my guitar so tightly that it seems like there should be some noise being made or something to that effect. However, no screaming or screeching or anything for that matter has resulted as I thought it would from the sound of my guitar. It's really like the whammy bar is a nuisance or mine is just broke.
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Reply #35 posted 06/25/07 5:03pm

carlcranshaw

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‎"The first time I saw the cover of Dirty Mind in the early 80s I thought, 'Is this some drag queen ripping on Freddie Prinze?'" - Some guy on The Gear Page
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Reply #36 posted 06/25/07 10:36pm

FarrahMoan

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http://www.vai.com/LittleBlackDots/lessons1984.html


Okay, this may sound a little ignorant of me, but I am terminologically-challenged when it comes to the ethics of music. I am merely the lover of the sound that these instruments can bring. I so hope that I am not alone on this. I don't know how many words I read from a part of that online seminar and skipped over even trying to make out the meaning of it all. I am so disgusted with myself and ashamed about it, but what can I say. Maybe I just wasn't cut out for it all. sad
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Reply #37 posted 06/25/07 11:03pm

JesseDezz

Please don't take this the wrong way, but do you suppose that you are perhaps spending more time posting than actually trying to play and understand the instrument? It's like you're looking for answers from fellow orgers then you come up with an excuse not to follow any of the tips. I wish I had this information available when I started playing - before the internet age.

If you're gonna be good at anything, you need to spend time developing the skill. There's no way around it. Plus, everyone's situation is different - Prince's situation at your age was different, and so on...

As I stated before, Rome wasn't built in a day and Prince didn't pop out fully-formed and ready to make records, regardless of what some of the uber-fans on this board might think...It's gonna take some time, so either you're prepared to do it or not.
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Reply #38 posted 06/25/07 11:21pm

FarrahMoan

JesseDezz said:

Please don't take this the wrong way, but do you suppose that you are perhaps spending more time posting than actually trying to play and understand the instrument? It's like you're looking for answers from fellow orgers then you come up with an excuse not to follow any of the tips. I wish I had this information available when I started playing - before the internet age.

If you're gonna be good at anything, you need to spend time developing the skill. There's no way around it. Plus, everyone's situation is different - Prince's situation at your age was different, and so on...

As I stated before, Rome wasn't built in a day and Prince didn't pop out fully-formed and ready to make records, regardless of what some of the uber-fans on this board might think...It's gonna take some time, so either you're prepared to do it or not.


Off and on, I played the guitar quite very much today. I got such a short temper and I gotta work on that. I know that. I don't exactly look for reasons to make my way around what has to be done. I am trying, man. Maybe not at my hardest efforts. I love playing and picking up things at a steady pace, as long as I feel some progress. It's just that, sometimes it's so stagnant. My nails grow long in a matter of two-to-three weeks. So, maybe that's the problem. The reason I started with this instrument along the keyboard/piano is because, well, I noticed that I could play sone things by ear (Alhough, looking back at them, they were so elementaric that it is crazy to consider this thing a gift, but I did at the time). I have seen other people play better than me that have played just as sporadically over the course of two years and it is often "VERY" discouraging. This one guy told me that he learned the "sweeps" techinque on the guitar, overnight while playing non-stop for six hours while watching "Nick@Nite" (Kind of weird, really). He said the reason why he was so fixated and focused on getting it down was because his girlfriend had cheated and broken-up with him. I was jealous of him and kept asking him to make sure that he wasn't lying. I guess that's just me, though. I don't really want anybody's sympathy. I just want some honest opinion on this whole subject. However, I could see why you would question my dedication to the damn thing because I know I do. lol Man, I tell ya, I got a lotta growin' up ta do, but I am gonna do it with this instrument. razz
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Reply #39 posted 06/26/07 1:38am

JesseDezz

Cool. Just remember to have fun - it's just so cool to see young cats getting into music. More young people should - it definitely alleviates boredom and it's so rewarding to start at point zero, so to speak, and steadily progress.

Funk on, dude guitar
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Reply #40 posted 06/26/07 2:06am

coolcat

Keep it really simple. Try to learn one thing a day... maybe just one chord... there's all sorts of lessons on youtube for beginners all the way to advanced...

And use a metronome.
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Reply #41 posted 06/26/07 2:09am

FarrahMoan

coolcat said:

Keep it really simple. Try to learn one thing a day... maybe just one chord... there's all sorts of lessons on youtube for beginners all the way to advanced...

And use a metronome.

You know, the thing about those is that I hear a lot about people changing and switching up their tunings to deviate from the norm. As related to its significance, what's really up with that? lol
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Reply #42 posted 06/26/07 3:01am

coolcat

FarrahMoan said:

coolcat said:

Keep it really simple. Try to learn one thing a day... maybe just one chord... there's all sorts of lessons on youtube for beginners all the way to advanced...

And use a metronome.

You know, the thing about those is that I hear a lot about people changing and switching up their tunings to deviate from the norm. As related to its significance, what's really up with that? lol


smile Significance of the metronome? Timing is everything. nod
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Reply #43 posted 06/26/07 3:04am

FarrahMoan

coolcat said:

FarrahMoan said:


You know, the thing about those is that I hear a lot about people changing and switching up their tunings to deviate from the norm. As related to its significance, what's really up with that? lol


smile Significance of the metronome? Timing is everything. nod

Maybe I meant a tuner because, now that I realize it, I think I was getting the two confused from one another. Yeah, I know something about timing. Now that I can understand. It's the tuning deviance of many players/artists that bothers me when it comes to string instruments, period.
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Reply #44 posted 06/26/07 3:13am

coolcat

FarrahMoan said:

coolcat said:



smile Significance of the metronome? Timing is everything. nod

Maybe I meant a tuner because, now that I realize it, I think I was getting the two confused from one another. Yeah, I know something about timing. Now that I can understand. It's the tuning deviance of many players/artists that bothers me when it comes to string instruments, period.


Me too. Stick with standard tuning. thumbs up! But here's an online metronome as an example:

http://www.metronomeonline.com/

You can get little portable electronic ones.

Or of course, if you have a synth or drum machine, you can just use that to keep a drumbeat going while you practice.
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