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Thread started 06/10/07 2:34am

icke4presidant

I don't understand all this hate for sinead o'connor?

I just joined the site and i've been looking at the threads over the last few days and everyone was bagging on sinead.

The ignorance of people is astounding. I'm not a fan of sinead's music but she is a courageous woman who tells the thruth even if it gets her hated.

I respect her immensely aned for those who still go on about 'the pope' incident i suggest you find out why she did it. The whole reason was for people to question it. It was extremely righteous just put it that why.

If somebody asks a question about Prince attacking her why should she say oh no i won't discuss it? The body language when she was on irish tv discussing it clearly shows it still bothers her and it did happen so why do fans deny it. Let's acknowledge it, condem it and move on.
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Reply #1 posted 06/10/07 2:45am

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I love Sinead O'Connor. I think her version of "Nothing compares 2 u" is even better than Prince's. I love her song "Mandinka" too!!!!

The only part in her cover of "Nothing.." I don't like is when she changes the lyrics "I know that living with me baby was sometimes hard.."...to "I know that living with you baby was sometimes hard.." that annoys me because I think the geninuineness of the apology is taken away in the song and put on the ex lover and it just makes it less romantic and pleading..it just kinda takes me out of the song. I mean the narrative is the one that should be admiting their faults because they are almost dying without that person they love.
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Reply #2 posted 06/10/07 4:11am

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icke4presidant said:

I just joined the site and i've been looking at the threads over the last few days and everyone was bagging on sinead.

The ignorance of people is astounding. I'm not a fan of sinead's music but she is a courageous woman who tells the thruth even if it gets her hated.

I respect her immensely aned for those who still go on about 'the pope' incident i suggest you find out why she did it. The whole reason was for people to question it. It was extremely righteous just put it that why.

If somebody asks a question about Prince attacking her why should she say oh no i won't discuss it? The body language when she was on irish tv discussing it clearly shows it still bothers her and it did happen so why do fans deny it. Let's acknowledge it, condem it and move on.

People DO lie. Who knows? She might be telling the truth or she might NOT. No one knows either way so why would we think the worst when we really don't know?

Why didn't she mention it BEFORE she had an album coming out?

It just seems a little coincidental to me that's all. I mean, look at the headlines it IS getting her, it could be exactly what she wants.

Again, I don't know.

You shouldn't be so sure it DID happen, until Prince comes out and says Yep it did, I won't fully 100% believed Sinead. Although Prince would never come out and say that. But if he sues her or denies it, I'll believe that.
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Reply #3 posted 06/10/07 4:16am

icke4presidant

purplesweat said:

icke4presidant said:

I just joined the site and i've been looking at the threads over the last few days and everyone was bagging on sinead.

The ignorance of people is astounding. I'm not a fan of sinead's music but she is a courageous woman who tells the thruth even if it gets her hated.

I respect her immensely aned for those who still go on about 'the pope' incident i suggest you find out why she did it. The whole reason was for people to question it. It was extremely righteous just put it that why.

If somebody asks a question about Prince attacking her why should she say oh no i won't discuss it? The body language when she was on irish tv discussing it clearly shows it still bothers her and it did happen so why do fans deny it. Let's acknowledge it, condem it and move on.

People DO lie. Who knows? She might be telling the truth or she might NOT. No one knows either way so why would we think the worst when we really don't know?

Why didn't she mention it BEFORE she had an album coming out?

It just seems a little coincidental to me that's all. I mean, look at the headlines it IS getting her, it could be exactly what she wants.

Again, I don't know.

You shouldn't be so sure it DID happen, until Prince comes out and says Yep it did, I won't fully 100% believed Sinead. Although Prince would never come out and say that. But if he sues her or denies it, I'll believe that.


I'm sure shortly someone will ask Prince about it. it won't be able to avoid it here in England; he's probably getting messages now from mags and papers to comment and i guarantee it won't. If it was untrue Prince would sue; after all he sues his fans for the slightest thing so of course he would sue if somebody was making false accusations.

What i'm saying is after watching her comment it's clear by the body language that she's being truthful. HOWEVER it's the first time i heard he actually beat her ;i thought he just threatened her. She should of clearly elaborated; blows thrown? That could mean fists swung but not hit etc. This needs clearing up.
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Reply #4 posted 06/10/07 4:23am

christos7

There was no other way 2 get her 2 cry 2 shoot that video..
Prince had 2 do it.
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Reply #5 posted 06/10/07 4:32am

purplesweat

icke4presidant said:

purplesweat said:


People DO lie. Who knows? She might be telling the truth or she might NOT. No one knows either way so why would we think the worst when we really don't know?

Why didn't she mention it BEFORE she had an album coming out?

It just seems a little coincidental to me that's all. I mean, look at the headlines it IS getting her, it could be exactly what she wants.

Again, I don't know.

You shouldn't be so sure it DID happen, until Prince comes out and says Yep it did, I won't fully 100% believed Sinead. Although Prince would never come out and say that. But if he sues her or denies it, I'll believe that.


I'm sure shortly someone will ask Prince about it. it won't be able to avoid it here in England; he's probably getting messages now from mags and papers to comment and i guarantee it won't. If it was untrue Prince would sue; after all he sues his fans for the slightest thing so of course he would sue if somebody was making false accusations.


What i'm saying is after watching her comment it's clear by the body language that she's being truthful. HOWEVER it's the first time i heard he actually beat her ;i thought he just threatened her. She should of clearly elaborated; blows thrown? That could mean fists swung but not hit etc. This needs clearing up.

Well, judging by that whole paragraph it doesn't matter if they both end up denying it, you'll still believe he did it.

And didn't he only sue one fan once for illegally selling his songs?
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Reply #6 posted 06/10/07 4:33am

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I'm a Catholic and I LOVE Sinead nod
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Reply #7 posted 06/10/07 6:58am

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sinead is fantastic, and her voice is even more angelic live, when she sings "troy" with the full string arrangement live it is phenomenal and sends chills up my spine. I went to see her live twice in Glasgow & Edinburgh two years back and she referred to Prince as a "short arse", but i forgive her purely because she created "The lion & Cobra" which is a work of art imo
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Reply #8 posted 06/10/07 7:02am

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I think she's an amazing artist, who's had a lot of interesting stuff to say. But her constant reversals (I'm retired, I'm gay, I'm a preacher...ok, nevermind) do throw a bit of doubt on her in regard to this sort of stuff. To be fair, she does make it sound she was every bit as responsible for this fight, if it did happen.
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Reply #9 posted 06/10/07 7:34am

icke4presidant

PANDURITO said:

I'm a Catholic and I LOVE Sinead nod


what's religion got to do with it

You don't have to love pedophile priests or the pope because your catholic, right? That's was the whole point of sinead's disgust with the pope. At the time there was dozens of irish catholic priests who had molested young boys and the pope was ignoring this sinead thought how can i bring attention to this.
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Reply #10 posted 06/10/07 7:37am

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why are folks getting bit? are we talking about the puppet interview? they asked the question...and she answered it...didn't she say she was okay with him now?
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Reply #11 posted 06/10/07 7:41am

icke4presidant

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why are folks getting bit? are we talking about the puppet interview? they asked the question...and she answered it...didn't she say she was okay with him now?


I saw that and didn't she look bothered still by the incident. You could tell she was speaking the truth BUT she didn't say he hit her.

She was recently asked about it again and she answered the question.

I don't know why any Prince fans are getting mad.
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Reply #12 posted 06/10/07 7:43am

Anxiety

what?!
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Reply #13 posted 06/10/07 7:45am

icke4presidant

purplesweat said:

icke4presidant said:



I'm sure shortly someone will ask Prince about it. it won't be able to avoid it here in England; he's probably getting messages now from mags and papers to comment and i guarantee it won't. If it was untrue Prince would sue; after all he sues his fans for the slightest thing so of course he would sue if somebody was making false accusations.


What i'm saying is after watching her comment it's clear by the body language that she's being truthful. HOWEVER it's the first time i heard he actually beat her ;i thought he just threatened her. She should of clearly elaborated; blows thrown? That could mean fists swung but not hit etc. This needs clearing up.

Well, judging by that whole paragraph it doesn't matter if they both end up denying it, you'll still believe he did it.

And didn't he only sue one fan once for illegally selling his songs?


OBVIOUSLY he did do it or he would immediately deny it. Any man in the public eye accused of beating a women; IF HE DIDN;T DO IT would strongly and angrily deny it.

how can Prince sue a fan for illegally selling his songs when he has done to same to wendy, lisa and andre? biggrin wink
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Reply #14 posted 06/10/07 8:00am

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Anxiety said:

what?!


http://www.prince.org/msg/8/229750

that links you to the "best" version of Troy you will ever hear.
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Reply #15 posted 06/10/07 8:02am

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icke4presidant said:

purplesweat said:


Well, judging by that whole paragraph it doesn't matter if they both end up denying it, you'll still believe he did it.

And didn't he only sue one fan once for illegally selling his songs?


OBVIOUSLY he did do it or he would immediately deny it. Any man in the public eye accused of beating a women; IF HE DIDN;T DO IT would strongly and angrily deny it.

how can Prince sue a fan for illegally selling his songs when he has done to same to wendy, lisa and andre? biggrin wink



Well if he did it then why didn't she press charges when it happened? All she had to do was go to the police after she left the house and say Prince and/or his bodyguard attacked me. "I would like to press assault charges." It is just that simple.
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Reply #16 posted 06/10/07 8:09am

Anxiety

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Anxiety said:

what?!


http://www.prince.org/msg/8/229750

that links you to the "best" version of Troy you will ever hear.


well, i know all about the girlfight between sineanea and princey, but is this really an issue? like 17 years later or whatever?! i mean, we all KNOW the only reason this little incident is even dredged up again is because sinead has a new album coming out and she always brings this crap up in promotional interviews. and frankly, her new album isn't that exciting, but it's more interesting than rehashing this story for the umpteenth-kajillionth time. dead
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Reply #17 posted 06/10/07 8:15am

icke4presidant

Ifsixwuz9 said:

icke4presidant said:



OBVIOUSLY he did do it or he would immediately deny it. Any man in the public eye accused of beating a women; IF HE DIDN;T DO IT would strongly and angrily deny it.

how can Prince sue a fan for illegally selling his songs when he has done to same to wendy, lisa and andre? biggrin wink



Well if he did it then why didn't she press charges when it happened? All she had to do was go to the police after she left the house and say Prince and/or his bodyguard attacked me. "I would like to press assault charges." It is just that simple.


I totally agree with you but ALOT of women who get hit by men do not press charges.
Why didn't kathy etchingham press charges when hendrix kicked her in the face?
why didn't patti lable press charges when sam cooke tried to rape her?
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Reply #18 posted 06/10/07 8:16am

icke4presidant

Anxiety said:

sosgemini said:



http://www.prince.org/msg/8/229750

that links you to the "best" version of Troy you will ever hear.


well, i know all about the girlfight between sineanea and princey, but is this really an issue? like 17 years later or whatever?! i mean, we all KNOW the only reason this little incident is even dredged up again is because sinead has a new album coming out and she always brings this crap up in promotional interviews. and frankly, her new album isn't that exciting, but it's more interesting than rehashing this story for the umpteenth-kajillionth time. dead


SHE DIDN'T BRING IT UP! SHe was asked about it. jeez can't prince fans understand that
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Reply #19 posted 06/10/07 8:23am

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Anxiety said:

sosgemini said:



http://www.prince.org/msg/8/229750

that links you to the "best" version of Troy you will ever hear.


well, i know all about the girlfight between sineanea and princey, but is this really an issue? like 17 years later or whatever?! i mean, we all KNOW the only reason this little incident is even dredged up again is because sinead has a new album coming out and she always brings this crap up in promotional interviews. and frankly, her new album isn't that exciting, but it's more interesting than rehashing this story for the umpteenth-kajillionth time. dead



did you even watch the clip? watch it!!! lol
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Reply #20 posted 06/10/07 8:26am

Anxiety

icke4presidant said:

Anxiety said:



well, i know all about the girlfight between sineanea and princey, but is this really an issue? like 17 years later or whatever?! i mean, we all KNOW the only reason this little incident is even dredged up again is because sinead has a new album coming out and she always brings this crap up in promotional interviews. and frankly, her new album isn't that exciting, but it's more interesting than rehashing this story for the umpteenth-kajillionth time. dead


SHE DIDN'T BRING IT UP! SHe was asked about it. jeez can't prince fans understand that


she could easily say "that's a matter which is behind me now" or something of the sort. i'm sorry, my being bored with the whole sinead/prince kerfuffle has nothing to do with being a prince fan - i've been following sinead since she was in world party - so i don't wanna hear it. lol
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Reply #21 posted 06/10/07 8:29am

icke4presidant

Anxiety said:

icke4presidant said:



SHE DIDN'T BRING IT UP! SHe was asked about it. jeez can't prince fans understand that


she could easily say "that's a matter which is behind me now" or something of the sort. i'm sorry, my being bored with the whole sinead/prince kerfuffle has nothing to do with being a prince fan - i've been following sinead since she was in world party - so i don't wanna hear it. lol


why would she say that? If i was violently attacked i would want people to know who did it; especially preachy religious stars
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Reply #22 posted 06/10/07 8:42am

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icke4presidant said:

Ifsixwuz9 said:




Well if he did it then why didn't she press charges when it happened? All she had to do was go to the police after she left the house and say Prince and/or his bodyguard attacked me. "I would like to press assault charges." It is just that simple.


I totally agree with you but ALOT of women who get hit by men do not press charges.
Why didn't kathy etchingham press charges when hendrix kicked her in the face?
why didn't patti lable press charges when sam cooke tried to rape her?



And none of the other people you named kept rehashing the incidents when they had a new album to promote.

Patti told her story in her bio and that was that.

I don't know about the Hendrix incident but was he dating this woman at the time? I could see your stance on the Sinead thing if she and P were dating...but they weren't. Most women who get attacked by people they have zero history with go to the police.

Like I said, if it did happen and it was all that she said it was, and she was that disturbed by it then she should have pressed charges at the time it happened.
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Reply #23 posted 06/10/07 8:46am

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Ifsixwuz9 said:



And none of the other people you named kept rehashing the incidents when they had a new album to promote.



but then it wouldn't be nutty sinead...besides, folks...she was being interviewed by puppets...it was a short exchange that was funny as hell...

i think folks are taking it all way too serious. Puppets!!

lol
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Reply #24 posted 06/10/07 8:54am

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sosgemini said:

Ifsixwuz9 said:



And none of the other people you named kept rehashing the incidents when they had a new album to promote.



but then it wouldn't be nutty sinead...besides, folks...she was being interviewed by puppets...it was a short exchange that was funny as hell...

i think folks are taking it all way too serious. Puppets!!

lol


I know Sineads a nut. But Anx is right. When asked the question she could have deflected it or just not responded to it. People in the limelight know how to evade a question when they want to. Everytime I hear the story told some new element gets added to it. lol
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Reply #25 posted 06/10/07 8:56am

icke4presidant

Ifsixwuz9 said:

icke4presidant said:



I totally agree with you but ALOT of women who get hit by men do not press charges.
Why didn't kathy etchingham press charges when hendrix kicked her in the face?
why didn't patti lable press charges when sam cooke tried to rape her?



And none of the other people you named kept rehashing the incidents when they had a new album to promote.

Patti told her story in her bio and that was that.

I don't know about the Hendrix incident but was he dating this woman at the time? I could see your stance on the Sinead thing if she and P were dating...but they weren't. Most women who get attacked by people they have zero history with go to the police.

Like I said, if it did happen and it was all that she said it was, and she was that disturbed by it then she should have pressed charges at the time it happened.


o.k i agree!
I just made the thread because there was a lot of childish derespect to sinead but you are right
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Reply #26 posted 06/10/07 8:57am

icke4presidant

sosgemini said:

Ifsixwuz9 said:



And none of the other people you named kept rehashing the incidents when they had a new album to promote.



but then it wouldn't be nutty sinead...besides, folks...she was being interviewed by puppets...it was a short exchange that was funny as hell...

i think folks are taking it all way too serious. Puppets!!

lol


why is sinead nutty?
That's nonsense. Prince is nutty and has serious problems as many who have been around him have said
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Reply #27 posted 06/10/07 8:58am

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icke4presidant said:

PANDURITO said:

I'm a Catholic and I LOVE Sinead nod


what's religion got to do with it

You don't have to love pedophile priests or the pope because your catholic, right? That's was the whole point of sinead's disgust with the pope. At the time there was dozens of irish catholic priests who had molested young boys and the pope was ignoring this sinead thought how can i bring attention to this.

I'm a Spaniard and I LOVE Sinead nod
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Reply #28 posted 06/10/07 8:58am

icke4presidant

PANDURITO said:

icke4presidant said:

PANDURITO said:

what's religion got to do with it

You don't have to love pedophile priests or the pope because your catholic, right? That's was the whole point of sinead's disgust with the pope. At the time there was dozens of irish catholic priests who had molested young boys and the pope was ignoring this sinead thought how can i bring attention to this.

I'm a Spaniard and I LOVE Sinead nod


I was born in spain; malaga to be exact
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Reply #29 posted 06/10/07 9:01am

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icke4presidant said:

I was born in spain; malaga to be exact

Really? Wow!
Land of famous people smile

Living in Spain now?
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