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Friday Paisley Party Commentary...(redux) Alright, some people here feel like they got stiffed out at Paisley this past Friday night. Been there, felt that.
I wasn't there for this last one-but i've been out there close to 40 times now over the past 8 or 9 yrs, and i can see it both ways... For one, a live show was implied-not guaranteed- by the npgmc newz item "B ready 2 sweat, and the camera's may be rollin'..." Sounds like a Prince jam to me, right? So it sucks to run out to PPark, pay $7, and be disappointed not seeing the man play, especially standing there for 4 hours waiting and waiting... Which leads me to my second point: why stand there for 4 hours, waiting and waiting, hardly moving a muscle, and expect a live show? Go check out any live shows of Prince on your VHS tapes. See any shows where the crowd is just standing there(see Emancipation show PP '96 with 100 industry corpses)? If so, do you see Prince enjoying himself?? Of course not. P feeds off the crowd's energy...and if they're moping around like zombies, i can see why he didn't play. It's a party FOR HIM, TOO. He's not just doing it because of his health, he wants to enjoy himself with people who are enjoying themselves. I get so embarrassed at those late nite parties when 5 people are dancing and the remaining 95 ppl just stand at the stage staring out into nothingness. Shit, i'm 33 and white and i still dance to his groove. Now, go back to your live VHS tapes and check out his better shows...see anyone dancing their asses off? Of course you do, because they love good music and it makes 'em wanna shake their groovething...and that's when P gets the nod to play. They don't call it dance music for nothing. | |
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mrchristian said: Alright, some people here feel like they got stiffed out at Paisley this past Friday night. Been there, felt that.
I wasn't there for this last one-but i've been out there close to 40 times now over the past 8 or 9 yrs, and i can see it both ways... For one, a live show was implied-not guaranteed- by the npgmc newz item "B ready 2 sweat, and the camera's may be rollin'..." Sounds like a Prince jam to me, right? So it sucks to run out to PPark, pay $7, and be disappointed not seeing the man play, especially standing there for 4 hours waiting and waiting... Which leads me to my second point: why stand there for 4 hours, waiting and waiting, hardly moving a muscle, and expect a live show? Go check out any live shows of Prince on your VHS tapes. See any shows where the crowd is just standing there(see Emancipation show PP '96 with 100 industry corpses)? If so, do you see Prince enjoying himself?? Of course not. P feeds off the crowd's energy...and if they're moping around like zombies, i can see why he didn't play. It's a party FOR HIM, TOO. He's not just doing it because of his health, he wants to enjoy himself with people who are enjoying themselves. I get so embarrassed at those late nite parties when 5 people are dancing and the remaining 95 ppl just stand at the stage staring out into nothingness. Shit, i'm 33 and white and i still dance to his groove. Now, go back to your live VHS tapes and check out his better shows...see anyone dancing their asses off? Of course you do, because they love good music and it makes 'em wanna shake their groovething...and that's when P gets the nod to play. They don't call it dance music for nothing. I was dancing most of the night !!! BUT dancing is not everybodys thang. Which is cool too, I guess, but i hate too...It's hard to see only about 30 people by the stage...ans the rest just chillin...standing nex to the wall... The thing is... it was difficult to cheer on a performance that wasnt happening...It just didnt feel genuine. I felt like Prince was watching somewhere, laughing his ass off. I had fun with the people I went with, and it's not like I didnt still have a good time...Just was difficult to act like i was at a show when I wasnt. vi | |
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violett said: I was dancing most of the night !!! BUT dancing is not everybodys thang. Which is cool too, I guess, but i hate too...It's hard to see only about 30 people by the stage...ans the rest just chillin...standing nex to the wall... The thing is... it was difficult to cheer on a performance that wasnt happening...It just didnt feel genuine. I felt like Prince was watching somewhere, laughing his ass off. I had fun with the people I went with, and it's not like I didnt still have a good time...Just was difficult to act like i was at a show when I wasnt. | |
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violett said: I was dancing most of the night !!! BUT dancing is not everybodys thang. Which is cool too, I guess, but i hate too...It's hard to see only about 30 people by the stage...ans the rest just chillin...standing nex to the wall...
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The thing is... it was difficult to cheer on a performance that wasnt happening...It just didnt feel genuine. I felt like Prince was watching somewhere, laughing his ass off. I had fun with the people I went with, and it's not like I didnt still have a good time...Just was difficult to act like i was at a show when I wasnt. I'd say probably 1/2 the crowd (including me) was dancing. When you only have 80-100 people, that ain't many dancers...I think the nite would've been much better had he done it in the MusicClub room. 80 people in there feels like a crowd. 80 people in the soundstage, is, well, kinna embarrasing... Whatevs...NEXT TOPIC PLEASE! | |
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endorphin74 said: Whatevs...NEXT TOPIC PLEASE! thank u!!! | |
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PlastikLuvAffair said: thank u!!![/b]
Notice how it's the people who weren't there that keep rehashing this nite?!?! I love it tho, or I wouldn't keep coming back | |
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endorphin74 said: PlastikLuvAffair said: thank u!!![/b]
Notice how it's the people who weren't there that keep rehashing this nite?!?! I love it tho, or I wouldn't keep coming back actually i had said that on...man, the millionth thread that wuz posted up on this subject (it's around here somewhere )...folks, u had 2 be there... | |
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You're right, we would have to be there to know exactly what happened. I wasn't and made that known.
Now that said-I was discussing the Paisley parties in general...and my comments weren't directed at people who go to the dance party to have a good time, so they shouldn't be offended by this thread at all. | |
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mrchristian said: Alright, some people here feel like they got stiffed out at Paisley this past Friday night. Been there, felt that.
I wasn't there for this last one-but i've been out there close to 40 times now over the past 8 or 9 yrs, and i can see it both ways... For one, a live show was implied-not guaranteed- by the npgmc newz item "B ready 2 sweat, and the camera's may be rollin'..." Sounds like a Prince jam to me, right? So it sucks to run out to PPark, pay $7, and be disappointed not seeing the man play, especially standing there for 4 hours waiting and waiting... Which leads me to my second point: why stand there for 4 hours, waiting and waiting, hardly moving a muscle, and expect a live show? Go check out any live shows of Prince on your VHS tapes. See any shows where the crowd is just standing there(see Emancipation show PP '96 with 100 industry corpses)? If so, do you see Prince enjoying himself?? Of course not. P feeds off the crowd's energy...and if they're moping around like zombies, i can see why he didn't play. It's a party FOR HIM, TOO. He's not just doing it because of his health, he wants to enjoy himself with people who are enjoying themselves. I get so embarrassed at those late nite parties when 5 people are dancing and the remaining 95 ppl just stand at the stage staring out into nothingness. Shit, i'm 33 and white and i still dance to his groove. Now, go back to your live VHS tapes and check out his better shows...see anyone dancing their asses off? Of course you do, because they love good music and it makes 'em wanna shake their groovething...and that's when P gets the nod to play. They don't call it dance music for nothing. Well hell, after doing all of the waiting and standing around in the heat or cold that always goes along with seeing Prince, some people don't feel like shaking their groovethings! Party for him too my ass! When he starts standing in heat or cold for hours before he's allowed to start partying like his audiences do, he has NO right to expect his audience to entertain HIM. Prince | |
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Also, people are failing to mention that DJ Dudley (who may well be the worst dj ever) promised that Prince would take the stage after they were done filming.
"If you can pretend to dance to Prince now we will give you the real thing later". I don't think anyone is really complaining about paying $7 I think everyone is just getting tired of Prince pulling his Prince acts. People who don't live in Minnesota of course think it would sound real great just to get into Paisley Park, but when you have been out there HUNDREDS and HUNDREDS of times (As I have) there is nothing special about it anymore so of course my viewpoint is going to be different. | |
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mrchristian said: You're right, we would have to be there to know exactly what happened. I wasn't and made that known.
Now that said-I was discussing the Paisley parties in general...and my comments weren't directed at people who go to the dance party to have a good time, so they shouldn't be offended by this thread at all. I shoulda posted my comment on one of the other Fri-Party threads. I liked what you had to say and wasn't directing it at you... | |
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lovemachine said: Also, people are failing to mention that DJ Dudley (who may well be the worst dj ever) promised that Prince would take the stage after they were done filming.
"If you can pretend to dance to Prince now we will give you the real thing later". I don't think anyone is really complaining about paying $7 I think everyone is just getting tired of Prince pulling his Prince acts. People who don't live in Minnesota of course think it would sound real great just to get into Paisley Park, but when you have been out there HUNDREDS and HUNDREDS of times (As I have) there is nothing special about it anymore so of course my viewpoint is going to be different. I can totally relate to that. I've been burned more than a few times going out there. LM, you probably know as well as i do, you have to go to Paisley with no expectations, which sucks, but that's always been my Paisley experience. LOL | |
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mrchristian said: lovemachine said: Also, people are failing to mention that DJ Dudley (who may well be the worst dj ever) promised that Prince would take the stage after they were done filming.
"If you can pretend to dance to Prince now we will give you the real thing later". I don't think anyone is really complaining about paying $7 I think everyone is just getting tired of Prince pulling his Prince acts. People who don't live in Minnesota of course think it would sound real great just to get into Paisley Park, but when you have been out there HUNDREDS and HUNDREDS of times (As I have) there is nothing special about it anymore so of course my viewpoint is going to be different. I can totally relate to that. I've been burned more than a few times going out there. LM, you probably know as well as i do, you have to go to Paisley with no expectations, which sucks, but that's always been my Paisley experience. LOL I also agree with the theory that you shouldn't have any expectations when embarking on a Paisley expidition, but when the dj is talking about a show and a seperate staff member told me that "Prince is going to play tonight" it was hard not to be disappointed when Prince didn't play. But hey I'm sure I'll be back out there again next time they announce that Prince will play. But I must admit I will no longer change plans to attend Paisley as I once did because it's just not worth it anymore. If I'm not doing anything yeah it's a worthwhile gamble, but not if concrete plans are already made. | |
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