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Reply #30 posted 06/16/07 3:40am

AsylumUtopia

prodigalfan said:

AsylumUtopia said:


Great diagnosis there, Dr. Soul. smile

Sinéad isn't crazy, she just did some stupid shit when she was younger, and let's face it, who didn't ? The difference is we get to forget about the stupid shit we did because the world wasn't watching us do it, and we don't constantly get asked about it. I saw the same interview icke4presidant is talking about, and in that and every other occasion that she's talked about the Prince incident she didn't volunteer the information - she was asked about it by the interviewer, and she's always given the exact same details. But then, she is one of those rare people who, when asked a question by an interviewer, always answers them. Any embellishments to the story you've heard were invented by others.

The suggestion that she's playing on Prince's current media attention to get some of her own - I don't really think that's true - she's trying to get her own media attention because she has an album and tour to promote. So if she's out doing promotion and she's asked about the Prince incident, what's she supposed to do ? Refuse to answer ? Lie about it ? Or do what she's always done and give the same version of events she has always given. I can't know for sure that her version of events is the truth, but I do believe her to be a truthful person (far more so than Prince has shown himself to be), and I also think that her version of events is probably closer to the truth than anything Prince might say about it, were he to be asked, and deigned to answer.


Maybe what you are saying is true. I don't know... if I was trying a comeback attempt, I don't think I would rehash a 20 year old story. It to me reminds people that my relevance in the entertainment world is 20 years stale, and connected to some rag mag-like gossip. But then again, what other things are Sinead O'Connor known for.... singing a fabulous song written by Prince (did the best job on this song imo), being Irish, shaving her head, and ripping Pope's picture.
Really her legacy is a series of snapshots of rag mag-like gossip.

The best of her legacy... Nothing Compares 2 U, she tarnishes even THAT by tellling and retelling this gossipy story. And I seemed to remember reading that she said that he wanted to talk to her about the song, then kept her "captive" for a period of time, "terrorizing her" and pretty much yelling/cussing her out. Now the story is he actually laid his hands on her.
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Like I said, stick to the same story. Or hell, entertain us, come up with a brand new story...don't keep changing the story; don't insult the enquiring minds ( razz ) by acting like we don't have a memory... maybe she doesn't remember the interviews she gave in the late 80's/early 90's BUT I DO! and that is NOT how she told the story then.

Your memory is faulty.
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Reply #31 posted 06/16/07 7:43am

shaomi

Actually i think Prince was talking about Sinead's declarations in Days of Wild:

"A woman every day should be thanked
Not disrespected, not raped or spanked
And if a woman ever said I did
Uh, she's a motherfuckin' liar and I'm a set-up kid"

It's quite obvious that he was refering 2 her.
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Reply #32 posted 06/16/07 8:28am

GiGi319

And why are we still discussing a story that is older than dirt. Did we miss anything the first time around? bored
love the one who is Love!
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Reply #33 posted 06/16/07 12:06pm

icke4presidant

shaomi said:

Actually i think Prince was talking about Sinead's declarations in Days of Wild:

"A woman every day should be thanked
Not disrespected, not raped or spanked
And if a woman ever said I did
Uh, she's a motherfuckin' liar and I'm a set-up kid"

It's quite obvious that he was refering 2 her.


no it's not and prince is a known liar anyway
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Reply #34 posted 06/16/07 2:10pm

shaomi

icke4presidant said:

shaomi said:

Actually i think Prince was talking about Sinead's declarations in Days of Wild:

"A woman every day should be thanked
Not disrespected, not raped or spanked
And if a woman ever said I did
Uh, she's a motherfuckin' liar and I'm a set-up kid"

It's quite obvious that he was refering 2 her.


no it's not and prince is a known liar anyway


1) how would u know it's not?
2) I don't think Prince is a liar, particularly on this account. He's never been reported being either violent or sexually abusive by anyone but Sinead.
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Reply #35 posted 06/17/07 2:15am

icke4presidant

shaomi said:

icke4presidant said:



no it's not and prince is a known liar anyway


1) how would u know it's not?
2) I don't think Prince is a liar, particularly on this account. He's never been reported being either violent or sexually abusive by anyone but Sinead.



Ha ha lol
Prince not a liar

None of his other women ever stood up to him. They agreed to everything he would say

Your right though no other women have said he's been violent but people on here have said he was violent to other women but that's been discussed and the thread as usual was deleted
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Reply #36 posted 06/17/07 2:46am

prodigalfan

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icke4presidant said:

shaomi said:



1) how would u know it's not?
2) I don't think Prince is a liar, particularly on this account. He's never been reported being either violent or sexually abusive by anyone but Sinead.



Ha ha lol
Prince not a liar

None of his other women ever stood up to him. They agreed to everything he would say

Your right though no other women have said he's been violent but people on here have said he was violent to other women but that's been discussed and the thread as usual was deleted


I have read the rumor that Prince was rough with Jill Jones. I could believe that story... he was in love with her... but Sinead.... I think only a person you had deep feelings about would push a person to have an equally passionate feeling... anger. I don't think Prince had that deep of feelings to get angry with Sinead, enough to beat her.
I think his reaction would be disgust, apathy, boredom... but certainly not anger. shrug
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Reply #37 posted 06/17/07 2:46am

prodigalfan

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AsylumUtopia said:


Your memory is faulty.


prove it.
"Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack
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Reply #38 posted 06/17/07 2:49am

alwayslate

prodigalfan said:

But I don't see him going around embellishing stories with the rag magazines... CHANGING THE STORY AS TIME GOES ON!



Then you may not have read or seen any of his interviews. Prince is notorious for changing stories over time. Since the beginning of his career, he has made up stuff to tell the press. Right up to the late nineties and his big Oprah interview. He lied all the way through that interview.

I will say that Sinead is an admitted mental-case. But she was there when this confrontation went down so only she and Prince know the real truth. I doubt that the fist fight happened. But he may have let her know that he ain't like the fact that she did his song without his involvement and she probably did tell him to go fuck himself. That sounds very much like Prince to me. She might have added that brawling shit because, well, she is crazy. Or she may have added it because she's tired of people always asking about it.
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Reply #39 posted 06/17/07 2:49am

icke4presidant

prodigalfan said:

icke4presidant said:




Ha ha lol
Prince not a liar

None of his other women ever stood up to him. They agreed to everything he would say

Your right though no other women have said he's been violent but people on here have said he was violent to other women but that's been discussed and the thread as usual was deleted


I have read the rumor that Prince was rough with Jill Jones. I could believe that story... he was in love with her... but Sinead.... I think only a person you had deep feelings about would push a person to have an equally passionate feeling... anger. I don't think Prince had that deep of feelings to get angry with Sinead, enough to beat her.
I think his reaction would be disgust, apathy, boredom... but certainly not anger. shrug


yeah but she told him to 'fuck himself'. even wendy said she was scared of prince; he had major anger issues
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Reply #40 posted 06/17/07 2:50am

icke4presidant

alwayslate said:

prodigalfan said:

But I don't see him going around embellishing stories with the rag magazines... CHANGING THE STORY AS TIME GOES ON!



Then you may not have read or seen any of his interviews. Prince is notorious for changing stories over time. Since the beginning of his career, he has made up stuff to tell the press. Right up to the late nineties and his big Oprah interview. He lied all the way through that interview.

I will say that Sinead is an admitted mental-case. But she was there when this confrontation went down so only she and Prince know the real truth. I doubt that the fist fight happened. But he may have let her know that he ain't like the fact that she did his sing without his involvement and she probably did tell him to go fuck himself. That sounds very much like Prince to me. She might have added that brawling shit because, well, she is crazy. Or she may have added it because she's tired of people always asking about it.


I agree with you apart from the fact sinead is not a mental case. Prince on the other hand wink
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Reply #41 posted 06/17/07 2:59am

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alwayslate said:

prodigalfan said:

But I don't see him going around embellishing stories with the rag magazines... CHANGING THE STORY AS TIME GOES ON!



Then you may not have read or seen any of his interviews. Prince is notorious for changing stories over time. Since the beginning of his career, he has made up stuff to tell the press. Right up to the late nineties and his big Oprah interview. He lied all the way through that interview.

I will say that Sinead is an admitted mental-case. But she was there when this confrontation went down so only she and Prince know the real truth. I doubt that the fist fight happened. But he may have let her know that he ain't like the fact that she did his sing without his involvement and she probably did tell him to go fuck himself. That sounds very much like Prince to me. She might have added that brawling shit because, well, she is crazy. Or she may have added it because she's tired of people always asking about it.



I agree that Prince changes his story, but it is HIS story about HIM and his family... he doesn't talk shyte about an encounter he has had with another celebrity and continues to lie/embellish about that story.

Now the story about MJ and the beat it video... if Prince later says that MJ himself begged Prince to be in the video becuase MJ was desperate to get Prince in the video to help salvage his career... etc, I would call Prince on that too.
Becuase it is BOLLOCKS and is damaging to another person's image... and I can't stress this enough..... the story is forever changing. Can the past change???
I don't think so.
But I do agree with you... I think Prince did tell her what she thought... and she probably said what she had to say as well. I just think it was nothing more than a VERBAL altercation. I never had a problem with Sinead's original story... just the fist fight change after 20 YEARS.... well dayum. Just sounds fishy and a bit desperate for some press on sinead's account.
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Reply #42 posted 06/17/07 3:01am

prodigalfan

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icke4presidant said:



yeah but she told him to 'fuck himself'. even wendy said she was scared of prince; he had major anger issues


I believe it this to be true.

I think that Prince would not get in a physical altercation himself... he comes across as one of those people that have a lot of mouth, then get the bigger kid (now his bodyguards) to back up his wolfing.

boxed I am being honest. I don't think he would hit someone who was not his personal bedmate/woman.
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Reply #43 posted 06/17/07 3:04am

icke4presidant

prodigalfan said:

icke4presidant said:



yeah but she told him to 'fuck himself'. even wendy said she was scared of prince; he had major anger issues


I believe it this to be true.

I think that Prince would not get in a physical altercation himself... he comes across as one of those people that have a lot of mouth, then get the bigger kid (now his bodyguards) to back up his wolfing.

boxed I am being honest. I don't think he would hit someone who was not his personal bedmate/woman.


Maybe but i believe he did definately threaten violence. that's the only way he knew how to deal with it beacause he's used to people sucking up to him and kissing his ass
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Reply #44 posted 06/17/07 3:09am

prodigalfan

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icke4presidant said:

prodigalfan said:



I believe it this to be true.

I think that Prince would not get in a physical altercation himself... he comes across as one of those people that have a lot of mouth, then get the bigger kid (now his bodyguards) to back up his wolfing.

boxed I am being honest. I don't think he would hit someone who was not his personal bedmate/woman.


Maybe but i believe he did definately threaten violence. that's the only way he knew how to deal with it beacause he's used to people sucking up to him and kissing his ass


once again, selling wolf tickets that his couldn't cash. I can believe that too. nod
but that is not what she said.... she said he fought her and the only thing she could do to defend herself was spit.

disbelief

Just tell that you were threatened... but that wouldn't catch headlines.
I am telling you, she is trying to ride prince's coattails to get some media attention for herself.
and ok, no press is bad press, but *I* am not buying it. hmph!
"Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack
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Reply #45 posted 06/17/07 3:23am

icke4presidant

prodigalfan said:

icke4presidant said:



Maybe but i believe he did definately threaten violence. that's the only way he knew how to deal with it beacause he's used to people sucking up to him and kissing his ass


once again, selling wolf tickets that his couldn't cash. I can believe that too. nod
but that is not what she said.... she said he fought her and the only thing she could do to defend herself was spit.

disbelief

Just tell that you were threatened... but that wouldn't catch headlines.
I am telling you, she is trying to ride prince's coattails to get some media attention for herself.
and ok, no press is bad press, but *I* am not buying it. hmph!


The interviwer should of said; really, he actually hit you, you never said that before.

Maybe someone at his concerts will shout 'prince did you really beat sinead up'? He'll have his bodyguard beat them to a bloody pulp though lol
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Reply #46 posted 06/17/07 3:28am

Flowerz

this thread still has life? eek .. hah! @ Sinead .. (me posting in it.. dont help doh! )
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Reply #47 posted 06/17/07 3:30am

icke4presidant

Flowerz said:

this thread still has life? eek .. hah! @ Sinead .. (me posting in it.. dont help doh! )
[Edited 6/17/07 3:29am]


It's an interesting thing to discuss; better than talking about Prince's butt
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Reply #48 posted 06/17/07 3:49am

Flowerz

icke4presidant said:

Flowerz said:

this thread still has life? eek .. hah! @ Sinead .. (me posting in it.. dont help doh! )
[Edited 6/17/07 3:29am]


It's an interesting thing to discuss; better than talking about Prince's butt


your opinion.. but I believe Prince music is a better topic...
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Reply #49 posted 06/17/07 3:57am

KidaDynamite

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icke4presidant said:

Flowerz said:

this thread still has life? eek .. hah! @ Sinead .. (me posting in it.. dont help doh! )
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It's an interesting thing to discuss; better than talking about Prince's butt


There ain't nothing betta than talking about Prince's butt! whistling
surviving on the thought of loving you, it's just like the water
I ain't felt this way in years...
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Reply #50 posted 06/17/07 4:10am

icke4presidant

Flowerz said:

icke4presidant said:



It's an interesting thing to discuss; better than talking about Prince's butt


your opinion.. but I believe Prince music is a better topic...


We should be able to talk about what we want.
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Reply #51 posted 06/17/07 7:46am

shaomi

Reading certain people here, i wonder why they're here in the 1st place if they think Prince is a lying, insane, violent & woman-abusive person!!! That's crazy the shit that people tell about u when u're famous! Any of u personnaly know Prince so u can tell this kinda shit about him?

Prince may have been verbally harsh on some of his collaborators sometimes but as far as i know he's never been reproted as a violent or agressive person by any of his past associates, including those who were dissatisfied by the way they parted. Anyway if u feel Prince is this kind of a bastard then why r u here, on a "fan" forum?
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Reply #52 posted 06/17/07 7:50am

icke4presidant

shaomi said:[quote]Reading certain people here, i wonder why they're here in the 1st place if they think Prince is a lying, insane, violent & woman-abusive person!!! That's crazy the shit that people tell about u when u're famous! Any of u personnaly know Prince so u can tell this kinda shit about him?

Prince may have been verbally harsh on some of his collaborators sometimes but as far as i know he's never been reproted as a violent or agressive person by any of his past associates, including those who were dissatisfied by the way they parted. Anyway if u feel Prince is this kind of a bastard then why r u here, on a "fan" forum?[/quote]

He is

why does anyone listen to hendrix or james brown or lennon?
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Reply #53 posted 06/17/07 9:35am

shaomi

Well, i think he ain't. He's not perfect (who is?) but i think highly of him anyway.
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Reply #54 posted 06/17/07 9:54am

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I remember reading about this back in the day, and I believed it then.

Why? I dont know, but it didn't change my opinion of Prince. Face it, he's a bit of an unusual fellow, and Sinead was just about the most irritating person around at the time. Imagine if this confrontational person had a huge hit based on one of Prince's songs, and Prince knew that it could (and should) have been his hit. Now imagine Sinead talking mess to Prince, and Prince's reaction.

Prince has been confrontational at times, remember the deal with Mico during the Nude Tour rehearsals? If Prince was willing to fight his own guitar player over the level of his guitar, why would people not think that this story could be true?

With that said, Prince is not the same as he was back in the 80's. I doubt he's threatening his band mates, or irritating women.
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Reply #55 posted 06/17/07 10:06am

icke4presidant

NightGod said:

I remember reading about this back in the day, and I believed it then.

Why? I dont know, but it didn't change my opinion of Prince. Face it, he's a bit of an unusual fellow, and Sinead was just about the most irritating person around at the time. Imagine if this confrontational person had a huge hit based on one of Prince's songs, and Prince knew that it could (and should) have been his hit. Now imagine Sinead talking mess to Prince, and Prince's reaction.

Prince has been confrontational at times, remember the deal with Mico during the Nude Tour rehearsals? If Prince was willing to fight his own guitar player over the level of his guitar, why would people not think that this story could be true?

With that said, Prince is not the same as he was back in the 80's. I doubt he's threatening his band mates, or irritating women.


I agree
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Reply #56 posted 06/17/07 2:00pm

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AsylumUtopia said:

SoulAlive said:




The problem is,this lady is so CRAZY that it's hard to know what to believe lol Back in those days,she was having problems with many celebrities.She would talk shit about someone and they would get pissed.She said some awful things about MC Hammer and he offered to buy her a plane ticket back to Ireland (or wherever she's from),lol.She even pissed off the legendary Frank Sinatra,who said "She deserves a good kick in the ass".

Great diagnosis there, Dr. Soul. smile

Sinéad isn't crazy, she just did some stupid shit when she was younger, and let's face it, who didn't ? The difference is we get to forget about the stupid shit we did because the world wasn't watching us do it, and we don't constantly get asked about it. I saw the same interview icke4presidant is talking about, and in that and every other occasion that she's talked about the Prince incident she didn't volunteer the information - she was asked about it by the interviewer, and she's always given the exact same details. But then, she is one of those rare people who, when asked a question by an interviewer, always answers them. Any embellishments to the story you've heard were invented by others.

The suggestion that she's playing on Prince's current media attention to get some of her own - I don't really think that's true - she's trying to get her own media attention because she has an album and tour to promote. So if she's out doing promotion and she's asked about the Prince incident, what's she supposed to do ? Refuse to answer ? Lie about it ? Or do what she's always done and give the same version of events she has always given. I can't know for sure that her version of events is the truth, but I do believe her to be a truthful person (far more so than Prince has shown himself to be), and I also think that her version of events is probably closer to the truth than anything Prince might say about it, were he to be asked, and deigned to answer.

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Sorry dude the whole fist fighting aspect to this story is new. Nothing wrong with Sinead telling the story but when it keeps changing you got to wonder if she is not blowing the story up everytime she tells it.
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Reply #57 posted 06/17/07 5:37pm

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NightGod said:

I remember reading about this back in the day, and I believed it then.

Why? I dont know, but it didn't change my opinion of Prince. Face it, he's a bit of an unusual fellow, and Sinead was just about the most irritating person around at the time. Imagine if this confrontational person had a huge hit based on one of Prince's songs, and Prince knew that it could (and should) have been his hit. Now imagine Sinead talking mess to Prince, and Prince's reaction.

Prince has been confrontational at times, remember the deal with Mico during the Nude Tour rehearsals? If Prince was willing to fight his own guitar player over the level of his guitar, why would people not think that this story could be true?

With that said, Prince is not the same as he was back in the 80's. I doubt he's threatening his band mates, or irritating women.


I have not heard of thissory in detail before. Did they come to blows or was there some pushng and shoving or just threats?
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Reply #58 posted 06/17/07 5:39pm

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Sorry dude the whole fist fighting aspect to this story is new. Nothing wrong with Sinead telling the story but when it keeps changing you got to wonder if she is not blowing the story up everytime she tells it.


that is what I am saying... the story HAS changed.
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Reply #59 posted 06/17/07 5:46pm

Imago

Ah the quarterly Prince vs. Sinead thread mushy


I don't think it's true. Sinead purportedly stated that he started a fight with her cause he was jealous of her success.


But to reiterate what another orger once said, that makes no sense. Why would Prince be jealous of a one-hit-wonder whose one hit was Prince's song? lol





Sinead fans, don't get mad at me--I love her. I just think she was insane at the time and obviously making shit up.
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