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Prince lipsynching --- I know Prince is not the only artist to have lipsynched before. I will love him no matter what until the end of time... however, I can't help but notice that I have yet to hear a live version of a song from the Gold experince DURING that era. Hmm, it could be that I don't have access to all those videos/audio files some of you might, but I have NEVER heard a live version of The Most Beautiful Girl in the World. That is the song that got me into Prince when i was 13, so it will forever be at the top of my most favorite... but no live versions!! I was checking the Soul Train show he performed back in 95 (i think it was 95 or 94?) and he lip synched every single song. I was also checking the AMA '95 performance and the performance included snippets of:
Batdance When Doves Cry Kiss Erotic City Darking Nikki Baby I'm a Star Diamonds and Pearls Purple Rain Let's go Crazy Billy Jack Bitch I Hate you 319 He sure included a lot!!! .... and I love this performance because it has so much... but it's sort of sad to -- not even complaining about the lipsynching at this point--  but of his gum chewing while moving around. That said, I really loved his entrance!! 
Now, have any of u ever heard a live version of TMBGITW???   Hmm, how about "International Lover", I finally heard a snippet of it in a concert in Long Beach back in 85 (or 86). Did he ever perfom the whole song live? Just curious. | |
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Shhh747 said: I know Prince is not the only artist to have lipsynched before. I will love him no matter what until the end of time... however, I can't help but notice that I have yet to hear a live version of a song from the Gold experince DURING that era. Hmm, it could be that I don't have access to all those videos/audio files some of you might, but I have NEVER heard a live version of The Most Beautiful Girl in the World. That is the song that got me into Prince when i was 13, so it will forever be at the top of my most favorite... but no live versions!! I was checking the Soul Train show he performed back in 95 (i think it was 95 or 94?) and he lip synched every single song. I was also checking the AMA '95 performance and the performance included snippets of:
Batdance When Doves Cry Kiss Erotic City Darking Nikki Baby I'm a Star Diamonds and Pearls Purple Rain Let's go Crazy Billy Jack Bitch I Hate you 319 He sure included a lot!!! .... and I love this performance because it has so much... but it's sort of sad to -- not even complaining about the lipsynching at this point-- but of his gum chewing while moving around. That said, I really loved his entrance!!
Now, have any of u ever heard a live version of TMBGITW??? Hmm, how about "International Lover", I finally heard a snippet of it in a concert in Long Beach back in 85 (or 86). Did he ever perfom the whole song live? Just curious.When it was number one here in the UK there was a live performance shown on Top of the pops (not in the studio) and I think he sang that live, but it was not the single version - it was the low-register version. | |
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Well, he did many live versions of that song during the Gold Experience tour in Europe in spring 1995. The tour was officially labeled as "The Ultimate Live Experience" since TGE wasn´t out yet.
He used to use a lot of backing voice samples back then but the music was great...tightest NPG ever and some really energetic singing. Check out some boots from that era. " I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?" | |
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Thanks. | |
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KoolEaze said: Well, he did many live versions of that song during the Gold Experience tour in Europe in spring 1995. The tour was officially labeled as "The Ultimate Live Experience" since TGE wasn´t out yet.
He used to use a lot of backing voice samples back then but the music was great...tightest NPG ever and some really energetic singing. Check out some boots from that era.  
OMG, he did do it live!!!!! He did it in his Gold Tour Final. After ALL these years, I finally got to hear it live. | |
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Ummm...everybody lipsynched on Soul Train. | |
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SexyBeautifulOne said: Ummm...everybody lipsynched on Soul Train.
really? Well, the only time i watched Soul Train was one of the times prince was there, and i had missed the previous Saturday. Cuz he was there 2 Saturdays in a row, right? -- My mom wouldn't let me watch much tv .  that's why i missed so many Awards performances 2. | |
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Shhh747 said: SexyBeautifulOne said: Ummm...everybody lipsynched on Soul Train.
really? Well, the only time i watched Soul Train was one of the times prince was there, and i had missed the previous Saturday. Cuz he was there 2 Saturdays in a row, right? -- My mom wouldn't let me watch much tv . that's why i missed so many Awards performances 2.Yeah, that's why he refused to go on the show for so long. | |
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Yeah, he did lipsynch a lot of his 94-95 TV appearances. But there are PLENTY of real live TV appearances from that era too:
"Endorphinmachine" - Nulle Part Ailleurs "Interactive" and "Endorphinmachine" - VH1 Honors "Peach" - European MTV Awards "Dolphin" - Letterman "Get Wild" - Top Of The Pops "Count The Days" and "Get Wild" - The White Room "Lovesign" - The Today Show As others have mentioned, every artist lipsynched on Soultrain. Plus the American Music Awards performance you're talking about was mainly a "tribute" to him, not really a performance per say. It was just a nice surprise that he participated in it. There are plenty of bootlegs circulating from The Ultimate Live Experience tour that have him singing "TMBGITW" live. Toejam @ Peach & Black Podcast: http://peachandblack.podbean.com
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toejam said: Yeah, he did lipsynch a lot of his 94-95 TV appearances. But there are PLENTY of real live TV appearances from that era too:
"Endorphinmachine" - Nulle Part Ailleurs "Interactive" and "Endorphinmachine" - VH1 Honors "Peach" - European MTV Awards "Dolphin" - Letterman "Get Wild" - Top Of The Pops "Count The Days" and "Get Wild" - The White Room "Lovesign" - The Today Show As others have mentioned, every artist lipsynched on Soultrain. Plus the American Music Awards performance you're talking about was mainly a "tribute" to him, not really a performance per say. It was just a nice surprise that he participated in it. There are plenty of bootlegs circulating from The Ultimate Live Experience tour that have him singing "TMBGITW" live. I remember him doing a cool live version of 'Billy Jack Bitch' as well, it was just before he started the Wembley gigs during the Gold Experience tour. The name of the show escapes me though, the one where he had the interview but wouldn't actually talk! only through Mayte! Funny/weird times. | |
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Yep, despite a lot of pre-recorded vocal samples, his live vocals on the 1995 Euro Tour were as live as could be. | |
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toejam said: Yeah, he did lipsynch a lot of his 94-95 TV appearances. But there are PLENTY of real live TV appearances from that era too:
"Endorphinmachine" - Nulle Part Ailleurs "Interactive" and "Endorphinmachine" - VH1 Honors "Peach" - European MTV Awards "Dolphin" - Letterman "Get Wild" - Top Of The Pops "Count The Days" and "Get Wild" - The White Room "Lovesign" - The Today Show As others have mentioned, every artist lipsynched on Soultrain. Plus the American Music Awards performance you're talking about was mainly a "tribute" to him, not really a performance per say. It was just a nice surprise that he participated in it. There are plenty of bootlegs circulating from The Ultimate Live Experience tour that have him singing "TMBGITW" live. i finally got to hear them!!!! thanks! | |
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bonedaddy said: toejam said: Yeah, he did lipsynch a lot of his 94-95 TV appearances. But there are PLENTY of real live TV appearances from that era too:
"Endorphinmachine" - Nulle Part Ailleurs "Interactive" and "Endorphinmachine" - VH1 Honors "Peach" - European MTV Awards "Dolphin" - Letterman "Get Wild" - Top Of The Pops "Count The Days" and "Get Wild" - The White Room "Lovesign" - The Today Show As others have mentioned, every artist lipsynched on Soultrain. Plus the American Music Awards performance you're talking about was mainly a "tribute" to him, not really a performance per say. It was just a nice surprise that he participated in it. There are plenty of bootlegs circulating from The Ultimate Live Experience tour that have him singing "TMBGITW" live. I remember him doing a cool live version of 'Billy Jack Bitch' as well, it was just before he started the Wembley gigs during the Gold Experience tour. The name of the show escapes me though, the one where he had the interview but wouldn't actually talk! only through Mayte! Funny/weird times. i guess i missed that interview .... anyone know what it is.... ??? or can provide me with more info? | |
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It was a show called the 'sunday show' i think, it was when prince wouldn't appear on tv with his face uncovered and wouldn't answer any questions, it was all a bit surreal, can't remember the interviewers name but she obviously wasn't phased by his requirements, unlike some would be. The interview was as much to the NPG as it was to him but he ended it by doing a live version of Billy Jack Bitch as a sound check from one of his wembley shows for TGE tour. I still have the song but not the interview..it was a couple of days after he received his last Brit award and gave a short speech with SLAVE written on his face. 'In concert totally free - on record, slave' | |
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In general he sings live. But some shows REQUIRE lip synching (like Soul Train, Solid Gold, American bandstand). In other performances he used recorded backing vocals, but sang other parts live. | |
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SexyBeautifulOne said: Ummm...everybody lipsynched on Soul Train.
Agreed | |
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SexyBeautifulOne said: Ummm...everybody lipsynched on Soul Train.
Not everyone--I seem to remember Luther didn't. And a few others. Very few, though. | |
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Doctorfunk said: It was a show called the 'sunday show' i think, it was when prince wouldn't appear on tv with his face uncovered and wouldn't answer any questions, it was all a bit surreal, can't remember the interviewers name but she obviously wasn't phased by his requirements, unlike some would be. The interview was as much to the NPG as it was to him but he ended it by doing a live version of Billy Jack Bitch as a sound check from one of his wembley shows for TGE tour. I still have the song but not the interview..it was a couple of days after he received his last Brit award and gave a short speech with SLAVE written on his face. 'In concert totally free - on record, slave'
oh, i have seen that Billy Jack Bitch performance... AND I have seen that acceptance "speech". Not that interview though. | |
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SexyBeautifulOne said: Shhh747 said: really? Well, the only time i watched Soul Train was one of the times prince was there, and i had missed the previous Saturday. Cuz he was there 2 Saturdays in a row, right? -- My mom wouldn't let me watch much tv . that's why i missed so many Awards performances 2.Yeah, that's why he refused to go on the show for so long. Prince was on "Soul Train"?  surviving on the thought of loving you, it's just like the water
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KidaDynamite said: SexyBeautifulOne said: Yeah, that's why he refused to go on the show for so long. Prince was on "Soul Train"?  | |
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Doctorfunk said: It was a show called the 'sunday show' i think, it was when prince wouldn't appear on tv with his face uncovered and wouldn't answer any questions, it was all a bit surreal, can't remember the interviewers name but she obviously wasn't phased by his requirements, unlike some would be. The interview was as much to the NPG as it was to him but he ended it by doing a live version of Billy Jack Bitch as a sound check from one of his wembley shows for TGE tour. I still have the song but not the interview..it was a couple of days after he received his last Brit award and gave a short speech with SLAVE written on his face. 'In concert totally free - on record, slave'
was the interviewer Veronica Webb? "Half of what I say is meaningless; but I say it so that the other half may reach you." - Kahlil Gibran | |
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Doctorfunk said: It was a show called the 'sunday show' i think, it was when prince wouldn't appear on tv with his face uncovered and wouldn't answer any questions, it was all a bit surreal, can't remember the interviewers name but she obviously wasn't phased by his requirements, unlike some would be. The interview was as much to the NPG as it was to him but he ended it by doing a live version of Billy Jack Bitch as a sound check from one of his wembley shows for TGE tour. I still have the song but not the interview..it was a couple of days after he received his last Brit award and gave a short speech with SLAVE written on his face. 'In concert totally free - on record, slave'
He was interviewed by Veronica Webb. Whispered his answers to Mayte who relayed them back. | |
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pandemoniun6 said: Doctorfunk said: It was a show called the 'sunday show' i think, it was when prince wouldn't appear on tv with his face uncovered and wouldn't answer any questions, it was all a bit surreal, can't remember the interviewers name but she obviously wasn't phased by his requirements, unlike some would be. The interview was as much to the NPG as it was to him but he ended it by doing a live version of Billy Jack Bitch as a sound check from one of his wembley shows for TGE tour. I still have the song but not the interview..it was a couple of days after he received his last Brit award and gave a short speech with SLAVE written on his face. 'In concert totally free - on record, slave'
He was interviewed by Veronica Webb. Whispered his answers to Mayte who relayed them back. do u know where i could view this video?? if available. | |
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Shhh747 said: KidaDynamite said: Prince was on "Soul Train"? Damn! What year(s) was this cuz I used 2 watch alot of "Soul Train" back when I was younger and don't remember c-ing him on there!surviving on the thought of loving you, it's just like the water
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KidaDynamite said: Shhh747 said: Damn! What year(s) was this cuz I used 2 watch alot of "Soul Train" back when I was younger and don't remember c-ing him on there!THEY'RE WATCHING ME!!!!! :BOXED: I'M SCARED  [Edited 6/27/07 21:34pm] | |
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The problem with TV back in the day is that the technology was not really there for artists to sound really good playing live in that environment. It was a big jump financially speaking from lip synching to a backing track up to a good live sound and Soul Train didn't have the budget.
Don Cornelius was spending the money on multiple cameras to keep the screen hoppin'. It worked. | |
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Shhh747 said: KidaDynamite said: Damn! What year(s) was this cuz I used 2 watch alot of "Soul Train" back when I was younger and don't remember c-ing him on there!there's a 14:23 min. long video of it on *****. check it out. you shouldn't post the name of that place here. "Half of what I say is meaningless; but I say it so that the other half may reach you." - Kahlil Gibran | |
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Raze said: Shhh747 said: there's a 14:23 min. long video of it on *****. check it out. you shouldn't post the name of that place here. sorry ... i see ppl posting some sites.. so i get confused.  i'm really confused about what i am allowe to write or not. in any case... sorry   | |
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Shhh747 said: Raze said: you shouldn't post the name of that place here. sorry ... i see ppl posting some sites.. so i get confused. i'm really confused about what i am allowe to write or not. in any case... sorry well go back and edit it out  Prince's goons will be getting it all taken off there if people keep mentioning it."Half of what I say is meaningless; but I say it so that the other half may reach you." - Kahlil Gibran | |
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Raze said: Shhh747 said: sorry ... i see ppl posting some sites.. so i get confused. i'm really confused about what i am allowe to write or not. in any case... sorry well go back and edit it out Prince's goons will be getting it all taken off there if people keep mentioning it.well, it has been edited already.. dunno how. :confused: hmmm they're gonna come after me.. or get me banned from the org  | |
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