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Printablehow many here would sacrifice a weeks pay for fear of being called a sell out? "its not about the stacking shelves anymore, he only does it for his pay cheque"
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mirrorbestfriend said: bonedaddy said:  oh, yeah. He NEVER earned money before, Warners never made mega money deals with him before. Now he's got to EARN it his own way, it becomes a problem. You bunch of fucking idiots!warners would never prostitute him though.... warners wouldnt have let him be a vegas lounge act! Think you would find Warners would have no say in what he wanted to do with himself, that's the difference between somebody like Prince, and one of your 'Sell-out' shitters. That's why it went 'tits-up' with them eventually, cos they tried to stifle his artistic freedom. | |
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SCNDLS said: Revolution said: I understand the man has to get paid, but (I think) the higher road for him to take would be RELEASING his CD material...sell the concert DVD's....stuff like that. This latest act of rubbing elbows with the high-and-mighty...Pricey, Pricey, Pricey stuff goes against his core audience. It's funny to me how everyone wants to sit in judgment of HIS decisions regarding HIS art and HIS marketability and commerciality when he has ALWAYS given back to his fans in various ways. I guess it's easy to sit in judgment and "overlook" the concert tickets for $31.21, intimate concerts in Vegas for $125 (when every other "star" is selling tickets to stale ass shows for much more), ridiculously intimate aftershows in Vegas for $50, etc. I can think of NO other artist who has consistently and regularly opened his doors wide to be closer to his fans like Prince has. People are always talking about how much of a recluse he is but name me another singer/performer that is even CLOSE to his level of fame that is this accessible and at least somewhat thoughtful of his fans. Do Madonna, U2, The Police, Celine Dion, Elton John, Bon Jovi, The Rolling Stones, Paul McCartney, et al sell reasonably price concert tickets and perform regular aftershows in small venues until 6 am???? Not the last time I checked. 
He is still a consumate artist and performer. And artistry does not mean you have to take a vow of poverty or limit your earning potential to appease some altruistic naive concept that making money is evil and at odds with being down or "keeping it real" as an artist. Whatever! Believe me, no starving artist wants to be starving they want recognition, status, and financial success. Stop the judging because I think that if you see him perform and listen to his music it is quite evident that "$$$" is NOT what matters most to Prince. Oh and BTW, if I had $300-400 million sitting in the bank you BEST believe Prince would have a standing mothafuckin engagement EVERY 3rd Friday of the month in my mothafuckin living room. And I'd direct deposit that million into his mothafuckin bank account. Okkkkaaaaayyyyy???? Do you understand the words that are coming outta my mouth????? 
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datdude said: SCNDLS said: It's funny to me how everyone wants to sit in judgment of HIS decisions regarding HIS art and HIS marketability and commerciality when he has ALWAYS given back to his fans in various ways. I guess it's easy to sit in judgment and "overlook" the concert tickets for $31.21, intimate concerts in Vegas for $125 (when every other "star" is selling tickets to stale ass shows for much more), ridiculously intimate aftershows in Vegas for $50, etc. I can think of NO other artist who has consistently and regularly opened his doors wide to be closer to his fans like Prince has. People are always talking about how much of a recluse he is but name me another singer/performer that is even CLOSE to his level of fame that is this accessible and at least somewhat thoughtful of his fans. Do Madonna, U2, The Police, Celine Dion, Elton John, Bon Jovi, The Rolling Stones, Paul McCartney, et al sell reasonably price concert tickets and perform regular aftershows in small venues until 6 am???? Not the last time I checked.
He is still a consumate artist and performer. And artistry does not mean you have to take a vow of poverty or limit your earning potential to appease some altruistic naive concept that making money is evil and at odds with being down or "keeping it real" as an artist. Whatever! Believe me, no starving artist wants to be starving they want recognition, status, and financial success. Stop the judging because I think that if you see him perform and listen to his music it is quite evident that "$$$" is NOT what matters most to Prince. Oh and BTW, if I had $300-400 million sitting in the bank you BEST believe Prince would have a standing mothafuckin engagement EVERY 3rd Friday of the month in my mothafuckin living room. And I'd direct deposit that million into his mothafuckin bank account. Okkkkaaaaayyyyy???? Do you understand the words that are coming outta my mouth?????
[Edited 6/3/07 20:14pm] well said SCDLS, my post will be much shorter thanks to yours. i agree. P, can't win for losing even amongst "core fans" on the org. Prince engages the capitalistic process on HIS terms. and your point about his "accessbility" to his fans was on point, esp. the intimate aftershows, but lest not forget HOW MUCH he tours. way more than any other major star. and averages an album a year, (or close to it) and we can't do anything but overanalyze HOW he chooses to "circumvent the machine", in his own words, cats need to "shut up already....damn" and btw, Batman was great artistry, classic Prince. an example of HOW to engage something so "mainstream" in your own way. ya...  | |
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Now why in the world would that bother me? He couldn't get it if you didn't give it. He doesn't have a gun to anybody's head! | |
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mirrorbestfriend said: so If i'm a pretty light skinned girl the easiest way to get rich is to meet prince,bed and marry, divorce him and i'll be rich?
better than college!  | |
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babooshleeky said: SCNDLS said: It's funny to me how everyone wants to sit in judgment of HIS decisions regarding HIS art and HIS marketability and commerciality when he has ALWAYS given back to his fans in various ways. I guess it's easy to sit in judgment and "overlook" the concert tickets for $31.21, intimate concerts in Vegas for $125 (when every other "star" is selling tickets to stale ass shows for much more), ridiculously intimate aftershows in Vegas for $50, etc. I can think of NO other artist who has consistently and regularly opened his doors wide to be closer to his fans like Prince has. People are always talking about how much of a recluse he is but name me another singer/performer that is even CLOSE to his level of fame that is this accessible and at least somewhat thoughtful of his fans. Do Madonna, U2, The Police, Celine Dion, Elton John, Bon Jovi, The Rolling Stones, Paul McCartney, et al sell reasonably price concert tickets and perform regular aftershows in small venues until 6 am???? Not the last time I checked.
He is still a consumate artist and performer. And artistry does not mean you have to take a vow of poverty or limit your earning potential to appease some altruistic naive concept that making money is evil and at odds with being down or "keeping it real" as an artist. Whatever! Believe me, no starving artist wants to be starving they want recognition, status, and financial success. Stop the judging because I think that if you see him perform and listen to his music it is quite evident that "$$$" is NOT what matters most to Prince. Oh and BTW, if I had $300-400 million sitting in the bank you BEST believe Prince would have a standing mothafuckin engagement EVERY 3rd Friday of the month in my mothafuckin living room. And I'd direct deposit that million into his mothafuckin bank account. Okkkkaaaaayyyyy???? Do you understand the words that are coming outta my mouth?????
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for SCNDLS  And you know you'd be on my guest list for when I win the lotto and have Princey perform in my living room once a month.  | |
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wlcm2thdwn said: mirrorbestfriend said: so If i'm a pretty light skinned girl the easiest way to get rich is to meet prince,bed and marry, divorce him and i'll be rich?
better than college!  | |
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SCNDLS said: It's funny to me how everyone wants to sit in judgment of HIS decisions regarding HIS art and HIS marketability and commerciality when he has ALWAYS given back to his fans in various ways. I guess it's easy to sit in judgment and "overlook" the concert tickets for $31.21, intimate concerts in Vegas for $125 (when every other "star" is selling tickets to stale ass shows for much more), ridiculously intimate aftershows in Vegas for $50, etc. I can think of NO other artist who has consistently and regularly opened his doors wide to be closer to his fans like Prince has. People are always talking about how much of a recluse he is but name me another singer/performer that is even CLOSE to his level of fame that is this accessible and at least somewhat thoughtful of his fans. Do Madonna, U2, The Police, Celine Dion, Elton John, Bon Jovi, The Rolling Stones, Paul McCartney, et al sell reasonably price concert tickets and perform regular aftershows in small venues until 6 am???? Not the last time I checked.
He is still a consumate artist and performer. And artistry does not mean you have to take a vow of poverty or limit your earning potential to appease some altruistic naive concept that making money is evil and at odds with being down or "keeping it real" as an artist. Whatever! Believe me, no starving artist wants to be starving they want recognition, status, and financial success. Stop the judging because I think that if you see him perform and listen to his music it is quite evident that "$$$" is NOT what matters most to Prince. [Edited 6/3/07 20:14pm] Pimp on.....show me a man NOT interested in money and I'll show u a grave site. | |
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Graycap23 said: SCNDLS said: It's funny to me how everyone wants to sit in judgment of HIS decisions regarding HIS art and HIS marketability and commerciality when he has ALWAYS given back to his fans in various ways. I guess it's easy to sit in judgment and "overlook" the concert tickets for $31.21, intimate concerts in Vegas for $125 (when every other "star" is selling tickets to stale ass shows for much more), ridiculously intimate aftershows in Vegas for $50, etc. I can think of NO other artist who has consistently and regularly opened his doors wide to be closer to his fans like Prince has. People are always talking about how much of a recluse he is but name me another singer/performer that is even CLOSE to his level of fame that is this accessible and at least somewhat thoughtful of his fans. Do Madonna, U2, The Police, Celine Dion, Elton John, Bon Jovi, The Rolling Stones, Paul McCartney, et al sell reasonably price concert tickets and perform regular aftershows in small venues until 6 am???? Not the last time I checked.
He is still a consumate artist and performer. And artistry does not mean you have to take a vow of poverty or limit your earning potential to appease some altruistic naive concept that making money is evil and at odds with being down or "keeping it real" as an artist. Whatever! Believe me, no starving artist wants to be starving they want recognition, status, and financial success. Stop the judging because I think that if you see him perform and listen to his music it is quite evident that "$$$" is NOT what matters most to Prince. [Edited 6/3/07 20:14pm] Pimp on.....show me a man NOT interested in money and I'll show u a grave site. OBAMA NOT INTERESTED IN MONEY Bono not interested in Money Grace Jones not interested in Money | |
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SCNDLS said: babooshleeky said:
for SCNDLS And you know you'd be on my guest list for when I win the lotto and have Princey perform in my living room once a month. 
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mirrorbestfriend said: Graycap23 said: Pimp on.....show me a man NOT interested in money and I'll show u a grave site. OBAMA NOT INTERESTED IN MONEY Bono not interested in Money Grace Jones not interested in Money Take it AWAY from them 4 a week.....see what they would have 2 say. | |
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mirrorbestfriend said: Graycap23 said: Pimp on.....show me a man NOT interested in money and I'll show u a grave site. OBAMA NOT INTERESTED IN MONEY Bono not interested in Money Grace Jones not interested in Money Oh, puhleaze! Honey, are you serious???? Obama is on track to become the top fund raising candidate in the Democratic party. He CANNOT be nominated, much less elected, if he does NOT generate at LEAST $100 million for his campaign. He has $10,000 a plate events JUST like the Republicans do. I'm not hating on him but this is what it takes to be President nowadays. And, how many mansions around the world do you think Bono owns. I've heard it's as many as TEN. How do you think he pays for all the trappings of his lifestyle??? Old sunglasses???  Again, not hating just saying that Bono lives a VERY extravagant lifestyle, as do MOST wealthy celebs, but he balances it with great humanitarian work.
And Grace, well who really cares about her? But I'm sure she'd be first in line to be in the sequel to Boomerang if Eddie Murphy came a-calling. | |
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  If I could be muse 2 the Pharoah...... | |
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mirrorbestfriend said: Grace Jones not interested in Money what?!
i bet if you converted money to a sniffable, powder-like substance, grace would be VERY interested in it! | |
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I swear the haters are finding such little things to Pick on Prince about, it's nothing but JEALOUSY | |
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wlcm2thdwn said: I swear the haters are finding such little things to Pick on Prince about, it's nothing but JEALOUSY
why would people who hate or who are jealous of prince waste time on a fan site dedicated to him? that makes no sense. what are they jealous of? | |
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I don't really mind if $$$ are all that matters to Prince, as long as he's happy with it and is enjoing himself. | |
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Anxiety said: wlcm2thdwn said: I swear the haters are finding such little things to Pick on Prince about, it's nothing but JEALOUSY
why would people who hate or who are jealous of prince waste time on a fan site dedicated to him? that makes no sense. what are they jealous of? | |
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Lothan said: Anxiety said: why would people who hate or who are jealous of prince waste time on a fan site dedicated to him? that makes no sense. what are they jealous of? Maybe they used to love him so much they now hate him because he doesn't fit their image of what he represented for them. | |
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ConsciousContact said: Lothan said: Exactly.
Maybe they used to love him so much they now hate him because he doesn't fit their image of what he represented for them. that's not jealousy, really, is it? it's more like disappointment, and it probably has less to do with prince than it does with that person being happy at that certain point in the past and realizing they can never go back. | |
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ConsciousContact said: Lothan said: Exactly.
Maybe they used to love him so much they now hate him because he doesn't fit their image of what he represented for them. | |
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Anxiety said: ConsciousContact said: Maybe they used to love him so much they now hate him because he doesn't fit their image of what he represented for them. that's not jealousy, really, is it? it's more like disappointment, and it probably has less to do with prince than it does with that person being happy at that certain point in the past and realizing they can never go back. attachment | |
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Lothan said: ConsciousContact said: Maybe they used to love him so much they now hate him because he doesn't fit their image of what he represented for them. I agree with this statement, but I also think that some of the haters/naysayers ARE, in fact, jealous of two things: 1. Prince can make a cool $1 million dollars for showing up at a birthday party with his guitar and doing an hour's work. 2. There are people in the world that HAVE $1 million to indulge their wife's birthday wish and not even miss the money. My advice to these folks is: Stop the hateration and go get YO hustle on so that you can either get PAID $1 million dollars for an hour's worth of work OR be able to PAY someone else $1 million dollars for a somewhat trivial indulgence for the sole purpose of making a loved one very happy. | |
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babooshleeky said: SCNDLS said: It's funny to me how everyone wants to sit in judgment of HIS decisions regarding HIS art and HIS marketability and commerciality when he has ALWAYS given back to his fans in various ways. I guess it's easy to sit in judgment and "overlook" the concert tickets for $31.21, intimate concerts in Vegas for $125 (when every other "star" is selling tickets to stale ass shows for much more), ridiculously intimate aftershows in Vegas for $50, etc. I can think of NO other artist who has consistently and regularly opened his doors wide to be closer to his fans like Prince has. People are always talking about how much of a recluse he is but name me another singer/performer that is even CLOSE to his level of fame that is this accessible and at least somewhat thoughtful of his fans. Do Madonna, U2, The Police, Celine Dion, Elton John, Bon Jovi, The Rolling Stones, Paul McCartney, et al sell reasonably price concert tickets and perform regular aftershows in small venues until 6 am???? Not the last time I checked.
He is still a consumate artist and performer. And artistry does not mean you have to take a vow of poverty or limit your earning potential to appease some altruistic naive concept that making money is evil and at odds with being down or "keeping it real" as an artist. Whatever! Believe me, no starving artist wants to be starving they want recognition, status, and financial success. Stop the judging because I think that if you see him perform and listen to his music it is quite evident that "$$$" is NOT what matters most to Prince. Oh and BTW, if I had $300-400 million sitting in the bank you BEST believe Prince would have a standing mothafuckin engagement EVERY 3rd Friday of the month in my mothafuckin living room. And I'd direct deposit that million into his mothafuckin bank account. Okkkkaaaaayyyyy???? Do you understand the words that are coming outta my mouth?????
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for SCNDLSI love this post 2
I think some people (who shall remain nameless) r sounding so  on this thread 
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it feels nice to defend prince again:
i dont think it is $$$ necessarily... Prince isnt a singles artist anymore, he is barely an album artist anymore. It is a singles world right now, completely disposable novelty junk. Thank god he isnt part of that scene. He is a visionary and his music is timeless. In order for Prince to penetrate at all right now, he needs VERY high profile events: AI, Superbowl, SNL, Verizon, etc.... So while $$ is definitely part of it, milking his celebrity is the only way he can keep his legacy afloat in the current state of the music biz... I cant however speak for the perfume thing! | |
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theodore said: babooshleeky said:
for SCNDLSI love this post 2
I think some people (who shall remain nameless) r sounding so retarded on this thread
yeah there are some retarded MF'S on this thread! | |
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mirrorbestfriend said: theodore said: I love this post 2
I think some people (who shall remain nameless) r sounding so retarded on this thread
yeah there are some retarded MF'S on this thread! Not trying to pick a fight, but you sure seem to be on a mean negative streak on ALL your posts on myriad threads. Just an observation. . . I'm not saying that Prince is infallible or above reproach or valid criticism but your persistent negativity is REALLY odd IMO. But I guess some people get off on constantly pissing on people's parade, okay, well whatever. . . | |
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SCNDLS said: mirrorbestfriend said: yeah there are some retarded MF'S on this thread! Not trying to pick a fight, but you sure seem to be on a mean negative streak on ALL your posts on myriad threads. Just an observation. . . I'm not saying that Prince is infallible or above reproach or valid criticism but your persistent negativity is REALLY odd IMO. But I guess some people get off on constantly pissing on people's parade, okay, well whatever. . .:hater: | |
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SCNDLS said: mirrorbestfriend said: yeah there are some retarded MF'S on this thread! Not trying to pick a fight, but you sure seem to be on a mean negative streak on ALL your posts on myriad threads. Just an observation. . . I'm not saying that Prince is infallible or above reproach or valid criticism but your persistent negativity is REALLY odd IMO. But I guess some people get off on constantly pissing on people's parade, okay, well whatever. . .
I was all ready to say everyone's entitled to their opinions til that retarded comment. I hate that word. | |
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